2016 MATC Scholars Program: Dr. Chris Cornelius

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[00:00:00.000]I was going, "I really wanna go to graduate school,
[00:00:02.667]"I really want to," but she wouldn't concede to that
[00:00:05.429]because of how hard it was before.
[00:00:07.438]So I said, "Okay, I'll work."
[00:00:09.267]I worked first, and where I did work is
[00:00:11.209]I started working at Dow Chemical.
[00:00:13.824]That's where I chose to go and that's one of the great
[00:00:17.768]things about, you know, when you have a technical career,
[00:00:19.914]you can end up at different places.
[00:00:21.513]And Dow Chemical was a wonderful place.
[00:00:23.735]The reason for that is because when I was
[00:00:26.090]a chemical engineer, what find out is you're good
[00:00:28.254]at a lot of stuff, because you're exposed to so much.
[00:00:30.774]Thermodynamics, kinetics, flow, everything,
[00:00:33.799]so you could so something.
[00:00:35.841]I thought, you know, 'cause I like kinetics because of
[00:00:38.487]the solving of multidimensional equations,
[00:00:42.035]to solve something, I like that,
[00:00:44.603]and you brought in chemistry with this.
[00:00:46.443]So, (mumbling) bring it together so I thought,
[00:00:48.404]"That's pretty cool, I think I like this."
[00:00:50.806]So, I had a summer internship,
[00:00:52.681]it also was at Dow Chemical.
[00:00:54.950]I'm walking through the plant, it was in Houston, Texas.
[00:00:58.950](mumbling)
[00:01:00.681]If any of you have been in Houston in the middle of summer,
[00:01:03.206]I think you know where I'm going with this, right?
[00:01:04.769]It was extremely hot and we were talking through,
[00:01:07.667]you know, I'm walking up all these distillation columns
[00:01:09.851]and doing what we call P&ID, another acronym.
[00:01:12.885]Piping and instrumentation diagrams.
[00:01:14.618]How things flow throughout, and I was thinking,
[00:01:16.800]"Is this it, is this where I'm gonna end up?"
[00:01:19.993]I'm gonna end up where it's really hot,
[00:01:21.788]I'm gonna be tracing lines
[00:01:23.359]and I'm gonna be stuck in this plant.
[00:01:25.482]This is now what I wanna do!
[00:01:27.558]I knew for sure, absolutely I did not,
[00:01:30.026]absolutely did not wanna be that.
[00:01:32.563]You're gonna find that, right?
[00:01:34.851]There's gonna be certain things you like and you don't like
[00:01:36.816]and one of the wonderful things about chemical engineering
[00:01:40.067]or engineering in general or any of the sciences,
[00:01:43.321]it allows you to do multiple different things.
[00:01:45.519]You can focus into an area and become much stronger.
[00:01:47.954]You can be a mechanical engineer working in biology
[00:01:50.685]or a chemical engineer or even computer science
[00:01:52.919]doing different things.
[00:01:54.665]I also had another internship where I actually
[00:01:58.273]started working for Dow Chemical,
[00:02:01.133]and I worked in, first it was Seabrook,
[00:02:06.084]and then I ended up in Lake Jackson, Texas.
[00:02:10.871]That's right against the coast.
[00:02:13.349]When I went there with my wife,
[00:02:15.349]because we were trying to decide where to go,
[00:02:17.231]we went there in the spring, so that's the best time.
[00:02:20.539]The weather is perfect, you know?
[00:02:23.076]It's like, "Oh my gosh, it's so beautiful.
[00:02:25.005]"We could live here.
[00:02:26.015]"It's green all the time, there's no more snow."
[00:02:28.304]Because coming from Montana, it's like,
[00:02:30.056]I'm just sick of snow.
[00:02:31.005]I don't wanna see snow ever again.
[00:02:32.815]You know, I'm tired of shoveling, all of it.
[00:02:35.263]I just don't wanna do it.
[00:02:36.776]So, we went there and it was beautiful.
[00:02:39.107]We were kind of wondering, you know,
[00:02:40.677]we went by these places and you see houses
[00:02:43.249]with all these screened-in porches
[00:02:45.409]and you see swimming pools, the entire thing is screened in.
[00:02:48.794]My wife and I are going, "What is that?
[00:02:51.751]"Why do they screen those in?"
[00:02:53.859]We had no idea, what is this?
[00:02:56.045]We didn't really see anyone around either,
[00:02:58.063]so we were just thinking, it's nice outside
[00:02:59.825]but no one's around, no one's walking.
[00:03:01.942]These things are all screened in.
[00:03:04.150]What is this?
[00:03:05.104]So, we went there.
[00:03:06.420]Does anyone know why it's screened in?
[00:03:09.211]Just out of curiosity.
[00:03:10.536]They have a lot of mosquitoes.
[00:03:12.329]Yeah, not just a little bit.
[00:03:14.446]They actually had two types of mosquitoes.
[00:03:17.339]They have fresh water mosquitoes
[00:03:19.032]and (mumbling) water mosquitoes,
[00:03:20.707]so you have mosquitoes all year long.
[00:03:23.298]I have pictures, I took pictures near out house
[00:03:26.068]and near the light, they just gather.
[00:03:28.581]They're up there (mumbling)
[00:03:30.351]and I took a picture and I went, "I'm gonna remember this.
[00:03:32.417]"I'm never going where there's this many mosquitoes."
[00:03:35.404]They would go through the plant.
[00:03:36.744]The plant was huge, they had three plants there.
[00:03:39.238]The plant that I was worked at was B plant.
[00:03:41.834]It produced its own power because it has to
[00:03:44.140]because so much power is required.
[00:03:46.370]The plant itself produced enough power for all of Houston,
[00:03:49.963]just that one plant.
[00:03:51.262]It was incredible.
[00:03:53.823]It was funny, it was almost like a hurricane
[00:03:56.053]because it was foggy all the time.
[00:03:57.720]In the morning it was foggy 'cause it was so humid,
[00:03:59.926]you'd get such swing.
[00:04:01.389]You start to approach the plant and there's this huge ring
[00:04:04.951]where the heat was rising from the plant.
[00:04:07.470]It was clear, the sky was clear,
[00:04:09.504]but then you come through it like the eye of a hurricane
[00:04:12.146]every time, and that's what it was like.
[00:04:15.123]They would have foggers come through,
[00:04:17.582]which I never knew what a fogger was,
[00:04:19.248]but they're vehicles that spray for mosquitoes.
[00:04:22.058]You'd go out, walk out into the plant,
[00:04:25.004]you'd go really quick because it's so hot that you would
[00:04:27.490]immediately start sweating and you'd just be dripping wet
[00:04:30.535]when you walked around the plant.
[00:04:32.736]But what you'd find also was, you know,
[00:04:35.016]they would have to fog every week for mosquitoes
[00:04:37.615]because they're that bad, and you'd see in the corners
[00:04:40.513]two inches of dead mosquitoes wrapped around
[00:04:43.428]because they're always killing them
[00:04:45.787]and there's just so many, it's unreal.
[00:04:48.635]I was thinking, I cannot live here.
[00:04:51.167]It was so extreme.
[00:04:54.390]But what I did find there is, I fell in love.
[00:04:57.454]This is the end of my four year degree.
[00:04:59.876]I really didn't know what I wanted to do,
[00:05:01.823]but in my mind i kept thinking,
[00:05:03.330]"I'm gonna go to graduate school
[00:05:04.595]"and I'm gonna emphasize kinetics and catalysis,"
[00:05:06.831]'cause I love those things, 'cause I'm good at it.
[00:05:09.136]And maybe thermodynamics.
[00:05:10.575]That's what I thought.
[00:05:11.856]But going to Dow Chemical,
[00:05:13.663]I worked on metallocene copolymers.
[00:05:16.396]I don't know if you know what metallocene materials are,
[00:05:20.052]but they're a catalyst.
[00:05:21.476]They're originally designed,
[00:05:23.219]they're called Ziegler-Natta catalyst.
[00:05:25.628]They had the zinc in the middle
[00:05:27.090]and they had (mumbling) on there,
[00:05:28.712]but what it allowed you to do is to take olefins
[00:05:30.560]and break long change polymers,
[00:05:32.572]and what Dow Chemical did is they created
[00:05:35.573]what they called a constrained geometry catalyst,
[00:05:38.411]which basically means, they had this titanium in there
[00:05:41.148]and they were able to sandwich it.
[00:05:43.429]Now, imagine that you have a catalyst like this
[00:05:46.795]and you could have a molecule come in in any direction.
[00:05:50.388]Because of that, what you ended up with was materials
[00:05:53.585]that were very broad in spectrum of what they could be,
[00:05:56.427]meaning that their molecular weights would be
[00:05:58.764]incredibly broad and you had little control.
[00:06:01.148]Now, imagine if you created something where
[00:06:03.150]you only had one site that you could get to
[00:06:05.219]and that's it, nowhere else,
[00:06:07.091]and that's the only place that could build.
[00:06:09.417]Because of that, you were able to create
[00:06:12.192]a brand new generation of polymers, polyolefins.
[00:06:15.581]But we were making polyethylene,
[00:06:17.760]polyoctyne, polypropylene, (mumbling)
[00:06:23.499]ethylene propylene diene monomers, EPDMs.
[00:06:29.379]What you could do is you could grow them
[00:06:31.057]and they would all be the same.
[00:06:33.727]You could control that.
[00:06:37.534]Then what you could also do which you couldn't do before
[00:06:39.575]is I could make AAAA and then throw in a B in there
[00:06:43.233]and make BBBB, and make it very structured,
[00:06:46.152]which was brand new.
[00:06:49.177]We were competing with Exalon and one of the things
[00:06:51.642]I worked on was I helped create a company called
[00:06:57.512]DuPont Dow, DuPont Dow (mumbling).
[00:07:01.251]I actually worked on that, designing some of those
[00:07:04.052]materials and working on that original thing.
[00:07:06.631]What was cool about it is you could build these things
[00:07:09.360]and you could go with everything from a highly
[00:07:11.844]crystalline polymer, something that was incredibly hard,
[00:07:15.933]and by changing its composition, I could turn it into
[00:07:19.429]something incredibly rubbery like a rubber ball.
[00:07:22.437]It was the same thing, and all I did was I changed
[00:07:24.922]the molecules and how they're arranged inside.
[00:07:27.442]From that moment on, I went, I am sold on this sexy idea
[00:07:31.424]that I can take molecules, assemble them,
[00:07:34.620]and make them do whatever I want.
[00:07:36.920]Now, I only know, the only people that I know
[00:07:40.051]that can create are women,
[00:07:41.308]'cause men, we don't make anything, really.
[00:07:44.378]Right, that's true.
[00:07:45.837]But you could just create something
[00:07:47.506]that didn't exist before.
[00:07:49.090]Now, I had to know more about that.
[00:07:51.493]It was like, okay.
[00:07:52.915]I remember this was when the internet
[00:07:54.963]first started coming out.
[00:07:56.580]We still had American Online,
[00:07:58.271]which you probably don't even know what that is.
[00:08:00.359](laughter)
[00:08:01.782]You know it, right?
[00:08:02.972](crosstalk and laughter)
[00:08:06.294]Welcome!
[00:08:08.999]So, I did a search, I did a search using American Online
[00:08:12.551]'cause I wanted to know more about polymers.
[00:08:15.039]I went, "Who does polymers?"
[00:08:16.775]Because I wanna know, and I wanna go to the best place
[00:08:19.297]I can go to learn the most about it.
[00:08:21.432]That's like Stan, he went to Virginia Tech.
[00:08:24.610]When I look, the three top polymer schools in the country
[00:08:27.576]where Virginia Tech, University of Massachusetts,
[00:08:30.853]and University of Southern Mississippi.
[00:08:33.184]They knew the most about anything.
[00:08:35.199]What was cool for me was, at Virginia Tech,
[00:08:38.100]they were creating something brand new
[00:08:40.000]that hadn't existed before, which was,
[00:08:41.656]they were creating what we call organic inorganic materials.
[00:08:45.486]We call them nanocomposists.
[00:08:47.326]We just call them hybrid organic inorganic materials,
[00:08:51.218]but you use them for so many things.
[00:08:53.434]Some of the first generation materials that people created
[00:08:56.032]were lenses, contact lenses.
[00:08:58.051]They're actually organic inorganic polymers,
[00:09:01.611]they're hydrogels which are created out of a polymer,
[00:09:05.135]a very hydrophilic polymer, and then an inorganic polymer
[00:09:08.706]so that way you can control the refractive index
[00:09:12.238]and control the oxygen permeability,
[00:09:14.734]so that way you can wear from for a long time.
[00:09:17.180]The alternative to that was glass.
[00:09:19.830]You couldn't wear them very long either,
[00:09:22.629]and you couldn't wear them if you had astigmatism
[00:09:26.429]'cause then it just didn't work.
[00:09:28.266]So much pain was created.
[00:09:29.837]But that's what people wear today.
[00:09:31.733]That's a hybrid organic inorganic material.
[00:09:35.175]I had to learn about that.
[00:09:36.788]It's like, that's so cool.
[00:09:38.341]You're taking not only molecules, but you can take
[00:09:41.260]inorganic ones and create something so cool.
[00:09:44.086]I mean, that's my word, right?
[00:09:46.073]I just really wanted to know more about it,
[00:09:47.912]so when I was looking at schools, I went,
[00:09:49.652]"I wanna go there, I really wanna go there
[00:09:52.574]"because I wanna learn more about that."
[00:09:54.691]So, I applied to a bunch of schools.
[00:09:57.707]University of Michigan, UT Austin, and I looked at all
[00:10:04.222]of these and I got into all those schools and I went,
[00:10:07.766]"Not very good at polymers, those guys are doing catalysis
[00:10:10.667]"kind of work, they don't know anything,
[00:10:11.956]"they're doing this," and I went,
[00:10:13.575]"Oh, Virginia Tech, I think I've gotta go there.
[00:10:15.832]"I just have to go there."
[00:10:17.505]By the way, my wife had this constraint.
[00:10:19.606]She goes, "I'm not living in a big city.
[00:10:22.404]"And we're not living here, and you're not living there."
[00:10:24.545](mumbling)
[00:10:29.163]I had to really look, and she goes,
[00:10:31.714]"Oh, and if you don't have any money to go to school,
[00:10:35.025]"you can't quit your job."
[00:10:36.934]So, I went to Virginia Tech.
[00:10:38.464]I actually bought a plane ticket and flew there
[00:10:40.485]and met the department head.
[00:10:42.383]He really wanted me to go there.
[00:10:44.778]He talked about scholarships and all the things that come
[00:10:48.659]when you transition from undergraduate to graduate,
[00:10:52.753]because that's a big deal, it's so different.
[00:10:56.119]The ability in how you're funded is so different.
[00:11:00.120]You will be taken care of.
[00:11:01.825]So, I went there and I looked, they offered me
[00:11:04.491]these fellowships and stuff, so I went.
[00:11:09.267]Like the hillbillies, I just pulled it all together
[00:11:11.815]in a big old van and I drove all the way there
[00:11:14.202]to Blacksburg, Virginia, which was a long drive.
[00:11:17.857]I remember that, that's a long drive.
[00:11:20.549]I took a bus back and called my brother and said,
[00:11:22.473]"Please pick me up, I can't be on a bus anymore."
[00:11:24.858](laughter)
[00:11:26.412]We drove all the way and we went there
[00:11:28.576]and it was probably, for me, the best experience ever.
[00:11:32.262]Going there and doing that whole thing.
[00:11:36.875]But that's for a pHD.
[00:11:38.449]I can also tell you that working for a company
[00:11:41.292]can be an incredible experience.
[00:11:43.113]What I didn't throw in there is I also worked for 3M,
[00:11:47.196]which is incredibly supportive of Native Americans,
[00:11:49.632]especially where they're located.
[00:11:51.445]Very strong Native American program.
[00:11:54.099]I have colleagues there that have done
[00:11:56.350]exceptionally well at 3M.
[00:11:58.296]It has a very open culture, it's a different philosophy,
[00:12:01.913]whereas my philosophy, in the sense that,
[00:12:05.266]you know, it's just different.
[00:12:07.581]I was probably too driven.
[00:12:09.676]I just wanted to do more,
[00:12:11.238]and that's not really how they work.
[00:12:13.128]But it was a great place to be.
[00:12:15.064]I'm kind of laying this thing out here.
[00:12:17.562]I'll just make sure.
[00:12:19.104]That's what one could do.
[00:12:22.746]I have colleagues now that started as an engineer,
[00:12:25.005]I'll give you one example.
[00:12:29.072]He started off as just an engineer
[00:12:31.502]at the same plant that I was at.
[00:12:33.176]No, actually, he was in the twin cities,
[00:12:35.602]and now he's a plant manager at 3M
[00:12:38.371]and he gets the chance to be able to help others
[00:12:40.887]fund Native American programs where he gets scholarships.
[00:12:44.603]I remember sitting in the office one time
[00:12:46.886]and I got a call from 3M headquarters,
[00:12:48.974]'cause I had a 3M scholarship when I was at Montana State,
[00:12:52.882]and he said, "Chris, what's the value of that?"
[00:12:55.405]I said, oh my gosh, it allowed you to do this and this
[00:12:58.139]and it made it possible that I did not have to work
[00:13:00.981]all the time, because as a student, this is a full time job.
[00:13:05.096]Anyone that says anything different,
[00:13:07.715]or if you're not working at that level,
[00:13:10.036]you're not committing what's necessary.
[00:13:12.246]You're not getting the full experience
[00:13:15.066]that you could have as being undergraduates.
[00:13:18.382]That's what they were asking me, you know,
[00:13:21.518]what's the value of it?
[00:13:23.018]And I said, "Because of that, I was able to finish
[00:13:24.707]"and I was able to now visit with other Native Americans,
[00:13:28.114]"high school students, talking about, you know,
[00:13:30.856]"going onto a four year college and how important it was,"
[00:13:33.501]and so that enabled me to be able to do that.
[00:13:36.026]What I didn't offer, we'll talk about a little bit later,
[00:13:40.203]you know, I still go back to Montana State University now,
[00:13:43.431]but now as part of their engineering research board,
[00:13:47.427]so help set direction and everything like that.
[00:13:50.915]And when I get to go back, the fun part is to see
[00:13:53.066]how different it has become, how welcoming
[00:13:56.089]and how much more open it is than it was when I was there.
[00:13:59.544]That's one of the things I think is so great,
[00:14:01.581]things have been changing so much.
[00:14:04.078]I feel like maybe I'm old, but in my mind I'm not.
[00:14:09.932]How much has been changing, and when I see all of you here
[00:14:13.326]I think, wow, you're gonna be able
[00:14:15.543]to create this kind of change.
[00:14:17.512]I mean, if this simple me can do it
[00:14:19.239]and did what I have so far, and I'm not done,
[00:14:22.680]how much more will you do?
[00:14:24.527]I mean, I just keep thinking about it in my mind,
[00:14:26.687]when finishing that four year degree gives you that ability.
[00:14:29.784]There's a joke which I've heard, so I'm gonna tell it
[00:14:33.530]'cause it's not too bad.
[00:14:35.642]Do you know the difference between a BS, an MS, and a pHD?
[00:14:39.566]I'll give you the clean version.
[00:14:41.617](laughter)
[00:14:43.556]Have you ever heard this joke before?
[00:14:46.357]I see, no.
[00:14:47.211]Okay, so when you finish your BS, this is what will happen.
[00:14:51.191]You will learn a lot and you will think you know everything.
[00:14:55.181]I guarantee you will.
[00:14:57.029]You're just like, "I just know, I know it.
[00:14:59.808]"I worked hard, I know."
[00:15:01.727]You'll go and get your masters, and then you'll also be
[00:15:05.427]introduced to this theory and where everything came to that
[00:15:08.174]applied equation that you used to solve,
[00:15:10.966]whether it's Navier-Stokes or whatever.
[00:15:13.418]You're gonna look at that equation, whatever it is.
[00:15:16.751]You're gonna see that it's been simplified down
[00:15:18.372]and you'll use it.
[00:15:19.412]Then, you'll look at the fundamental theory behind it
[00:15:21.301]and you're gonna go, "I know nothing.
[00:15:23.747]"I don't know anything!"
[00:15:25.465]And that's what you're gonna figure out.
[00:15:28.320]And when you get your pHD, then you'll go,
[00:15:31.280]"Yeah, I know nothing,
[00:15:32.995]"but you guys don't know that I know nothing."
[00:15:35.520](laughter)
[00:15:39.682]There's some truth to that (laughs).
[00:15:43.523]I'm just gonna let you ask me questions.
[00:15:46.766]Can I kind of lay some groundwork for you
[00:15:48.321]to kind of understand a little bit?
[00:15:50.335]I've had an interesting life in the sense that
[00:15:53.473]I've done multiple things.
[00:15:55.414]You know, I've been in the industry,
[00:15:57.946]I've been at a national lab, which I really enjoyed,
[00:16:01.137]I've been in academia.
[00:16:02.813]And I'm still in academia, and I still like that.
[00:16:06.831]I really enjoy the parts of being able to help
[00:16:09.792]take a student instead of a post doc and train them
[00:16:12.331]to be able to think critically so that
[00:16:15.090]when someone else gets that post doc, they'll go,
[00:16:17.073]"Oh, he's good," or, "She's good."
[00:16:19.497]I helped them become that way.
[00:16:21.704]Yeah?
[00:16:22.577]Can I ask you to share something
[00:16:24.711]you shared last night about internships?
[00:16:27.434]We were talking about the benefit of them
[00:16:29.160]while you're in school versus waiting until you're done.
[00:16:31.836]Yeah.
[00:16:32.718]There's a new thing going on.
[00:16:34.997]The National Science Foundation has what they call
[00:16:37.897]research experiences for undergraduate students.
[00:16:41.475]They are so hungry for you to, so,
[00:16:44.332]someone wins one, let's say, (mumbling).
[00:16:48.133]I'd be looking for everyone to try to apply to that thing
[00:16:50.775]'cause I want a student to come.
[00:16:52.782]And they really do this.
[00:16:54.366]That will give you an opportunity to do,
[00:16:57.581]I'm just giving you one example so far,
[00:16:59.580]that will give you an opportunity to work in an academic
[00:17:02.973]setting and a research lab with a faculty member,
[00:17:06.431]and hopefully you're doing something useful
[00:17:08.505]so you get an experience out of that.
[00:17:11.069]But that gives you an opening.
[00:17:12.968]The wonderful thing about it, it's not like a co-op.
[00:17:15.509]Co-op is different in the sense that you do research
[00:17:17.659]during the academic year and it lengthens the time
[00:17:20.108]before you get to graduate.
[00:17:21.762]RUs or something like that means, during the summer,
[00:17:24.734]you make some money and you go do something
[00:17:26.157]and you get to see.
[00:17:27.729]And you can come back, you make some money,
[00:17:29.786]and put it your CV.
[00:17:31.196]People look at it and they go,
[00:17:32.780]"Wow, that's a more well-rounded person 'cause they've been
[00:17:35.208]"somewhere and they've been challenged with that."
[00:17:37.881]That's what RUs can do, they can help direct you that way.
[00:17:41.235]There's lots of industrial mixtures of research
[00:17:45.106]where one could go and work, like for 3M,
[00:17:51.235]3M loves to hire people.
[00:17:53.056]They are aggressive about this.
[00:17:55.248]They really see that talent and the future
[00:17:57.168]is something that you need to invest in, so they do that.
[00:17:59.990]They bring undergraduate students out,
[00:18:02.091]try to bring you into the culture, kind of check you out,
[00:18:04.808]and then make you a job offer after you're done doing that.
[00:18:08.631]I've had many friends that've done that as well.
[00:18:11.120]I think there's a few other companies
[00:18:12.637]that do the same thing.
[00:18:13.895]I'm most familiar with them when they do that
[00:18:15.639]so you could go after that.
[00:18:17.373]That helps prepare you, that's the industrial thing.
[00:18:23.939]They have, I think they do have something like that.
[00:18:26.594]I don't really recall undergraduates, though.
[00:18:30.068]That's more of a rare thing.
[00:18:31.872]Under my own funding, I wound fund an undergraduate student
[00:18:35.673]or a graduate student to come work with me,
[00:18:37.588]but I don't recall them actually funding them.
[00:18:40.813]Those are kind of the spectrums of things.
[00:18:43.097]I think what you learn, though, is so valuable.
[00:18:45.859]Another example, I worked for
[00:18:47.919]Pacific Northwest National Laboratory,
[00:18:49.937]the (mumbling) part of it, for one summer.
[00:18:52.183]They helped fund my schooling.
[00:18:54.577]I went out there during the summer and what I did is
[00:18:57.238]I looked at, this is again, where, if you go back
[00:19:00.525]to the early 70s, you could do whatever
[00:19:02.402]you wanted with your waste.
[00:19:04.226]It's just that, there was no law that said you couldn't.
[00:19:07.082]Love canal and all these things, so they did the same thing.

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