CoE Building Town Hall Meeting
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DLR hosts a Town Hall Meeting with the Faculty/Staff of the College regarding new building options.
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- [00:00:00.195]In Omaha.
- [00:00:02.445]All right, very good.
- [00:00:04.203]Welcome.
- [00:00:05.228]I'd like to welcome y'all to this town hall meeting.
- [00:00:08.490]So glad that y'all could make it.
- [00:00:10.781]We're gonna, I'm gonna get out of the way
- [00:00:12.797]and turn it over to Brad in facilities
- [00:00:15.160]and our leaders from DLR.
- [00:00:17.201]You'll notice that we have a contingent
- [00:00:19.116]in Omaha as well.
- [00:00:21.054]So this is an opportunity to learn
- [00:00:23.003]and ask questions about the building project.
- [00:00:25.517]So with that, Brad, I'm gonna turn it over to you.
- [00:00:28.530]My name is Brad Muehling.
- [00:00:29.627]I'm in the University facilities department.
- [00:00:32.018]I'm project manager for this project.
- [00:00:34.417]Give you a little history.
- [00:00:36.635]Couple years ago, the University
- [00:00:38.860]had a master plan for the college.
- [00:00:41.599]From that effort, some money was achieved
- [00:00:45.578]or received from the state.
- [00:00:47.448]And there's some various, is everyone hearing me by the way?
- [00:00:51.782]Everybody okay?
- [00:00:52.615]Okay, we received some money from the state.
- [00:00:55.091]We received about $70 million.
- [00:00:57.766]From that money, we think we can also raise
- [00:00:59.704]another 70 to $80 million dollars
- [00:01:02.111]and create a new project for the college.
- [00:01:06.819]Our consultants were hired to do programming.
- [00:01:09.152]We've been doing programming for--
- [00:01:10.837]About a year.
- [00:01:11.670]Oh, it seems like a year.
- [00:01:13.095]Not quite that.
- [00:01:14.948]But we have had several meetings in that time.
- [00:01:17.318]We've met with the students.
- [00:01:18.341]We've met with the faculty, staff
- [00:01:20.903]and different departments within the college.
- [00:01:24.181]So what we're here today is to show you what we've done.
- [00:01:27.058]Get your input on where we're at
- [00:01:29.426]and answer any questions that you may have
- [00:01:31.079]and take your comments.
- [00:01:33.078]From this stage, we will go on
- [00:01:34.730]and finalize our program documents.
- [00:01:37.584]And with the plans, we're going to the Board of Regents
- [00:01:40.073]for approval as early as October.
- [00:01:43.726]And if we get approval at that time,
- [00:01:45.605]which we are hopeful we will,
- [00:01:47.704]we'll go into architect selection, start design and
- [00:01:52.779]do a $140 to $150 million dollar project for you.
- [00:01:56.627]So with that, I'll let Mark and John
- [00:02:00.385]take over the presentation.
- [00:02:01.893]All right, thanks Brad.
- [00:02:03.630]My name is Mark Brim.
- [00:02:05.630]I'm with DLR Group.
- [00:02:06.997]John Badami.
- [00:02:08.380]And then in Omaha we have Ken West
- [00:02:10.986]with the waving hand there.
- [00:02:13.388]We've been working for the last few months on this effort
- [00:02:18.262]and just some dates that we've,
- [00:02:21.769]we had some charrettes.
- [00:02:24.058]We had a charrette with some students
- [00:02:26.769]back in May of 2016.
- [00:02:31.293]And we spent an afternoon in the library.
- [00:02:34.079]We had some image boards propped up,
- [00:02:36.756]and we had them put green dots on spaces if they liked
- [00:02:41.332]and red dots on spaces that they didn't like.
- [00:02:43.709]We had them list things that they looked for,
- [00:02:46.337]what kind of spaces do they want to have?
- [00:02:48.496]What space that are currently in their facilities
- [00:02:52.274]that they like and what spaces they don't like?
- [00:02:54.334]So we got some good feedback that helped us
- [00:02:59.377]start to craft what we call our memorable goals.
- [00:03:03.401]Some of the things that they,
- [00:03:05.211]that kind of raise to the surface was day lighting.
- [00:03:10.538]A little bit brighter spaces.
- [00:03:13.392]A design center, a place where they can go
- [00:03:16.005]and fabricate and create.
- [00:03:19.864]Indoor/outdoor connections.
- [00:03:24.094]Access to technology.
- [00:03:26.141]And coffee, and food.
- [00:03:29.631]And that by the way we heard from the faculty as well.
- [00:03:33.757]And just flexible configurations.
- [00:03:37.130]Then in November of 2016, we had a site charrette
- [00:03:41.256]with a steering committee and people from facilities,
- [00:03:45.406]and campus.
- [00:03:47.623]And through that we,
- [00:03:49.900]and John's gonna talk a little bit about that,
- [00:03:51.649]but we identified the location,
- [00:03:54.767]the preferred location of where any expansion would occur.
- [00:03:58.250]And some of the things that came out of that as far as goals
- [00:04:01.128]is just, elevate the exposure of the College of Engineering
- [00:04:05.085]to the campus.
- [00:04:07.175]Its transparency, its position, its view lines.
- [00:04:10.912]It's just, as you walk by, being able to see what's going on
- [00:04:13.983]in the facility.
- [00:04:15.711]And that ties into some of these goals here that we
- [00:04:18.900]developed with administration.
- [00:04:22.009]You can see, like number five,
- [00:04:23.872]create spaces at our destination locations
- [00:04:25.734]for those outside the College of Engineering.
- [00:04:27.724]So just that transparency and exposure
- [00:04:30.417]and an environment that would be
- [00:04:33.154]compelling to spend some time in,
- [00:04:35.768]rather than leaving at six o'clock every day.
- [00:04:38.702]And just, as we look into the design,
- [00:04:41.327]we're in a program phase,
- [00:04:42.875]so we're not really getting into any nitty-gritty design,
- [00:04:46.182]but we are looking at concepts as far as
- [00:04:49.680]how we can configure labs so that they're
- [00:04:52.865]adaptable and flexible as possible.
- [00:04:55.207]And just trying to address some of these goals here
- [00:04:59.658]that were identified early on.
- [00:05:08.394]So they've mentioned the program,
- [00:05:10.189]we've really been focusing on square feet.
- [00:05:12.556]And this is just a summary page of about 40 pages
- [00:05:15.340]of programming that we've been going through.
- [00:05:19.952]We broke it into classifications of space,
- [00:05:22.662]classrooms, laboratories,
- [00:05:25.361]broken the laboratories into class labs, research labs,
- [00:05:28.229]and then shop spaces.
- [00:05:30.322]We looked at the workplace office spaces for
- [00:05:34.406]faculty, administration, grad students, and any support,
- [00:05:39.355]and student organizations.
- [00:05:41.637]And we looked at study and general use facilities,
- [00:05:44.529]those are kind of the shared areas that
- [00:05:46.296]maybe you lack right now in your facilities
- [00:05:49.061]as far as breakout space, collaboration space,
- [00:05:54.363]meeting space,
- [00:05:56.146]meeting space for clubs,
- [00:05:57.569]meeting space for senior design projects,
- [00:06:00.352]and also shop student design center space.
- [00:06:05.996]So this is the column that shows the square footage
- [00:06:10.111]that you currently have,
- [00:06:11.880]and this is what is being proposed.
- [00:06:14.374]So as we look at the proposed numbers,
- [00:06:16.456]the significant increases are really in lab spaces,
- [00:06:20.563]research labs particularly.
- [00:06:22.869]We currently have about,
- [00:06:23.854]and these are net square feet.
- [00:06:25.123]This doesn't include structure and hallways and such.
- [00:06:28.040]About 86,000 square feet,
- [00:06:29.841]increasing that to 188,000 square feet,
- [00:06:32.435]so over 100 square foot,
- [00:06:33.690]100,000 square feet of increase there.
- [00:06:36.707]So as we tally all these up,
- [00:06:40.027]what I really wanted to get to is that
- [00:06:41.937]we have a deficit of about 256,000 square feet of,
- [00:06:46.797]gross square feet, that's everything all in.
- [00:06:50.033]And that these projections are
- [00:06:53.708]looking forward to 2037,
- [00:06:57.334]which in all intents and purposes is about,
- [00:07:00.132]we're doubling the enrollment.
- [00:07:02.552]And from there it's, ratchets to how many faculty
- [00:07:05.893]does that represent?
- [00:07:06.726]How many students does that represent,
- [00:07:08.815]or how many grad students does that represent?
- [00:07:12.425]So in this, as we get further into the show here,
- [00:07:16.660]we're gonna look at some concepts that reflect
- [00:07:19.526]this amount of square feet.
- [00:07:20.942]And what we looked at is that 256,000 square feet
- [00:07:25.097]of additional space, as well as looking at Scott Engineering
- [00:07:29.740]and taken what we have in here about
- [00:07:32.310]164,000 net square feet, taking that square feet
- [00:07:36.482]and repurposing it and basically gutting and redoing it.
- [00:07:40.244]So if we took,
- [00:07:41.415]take all the space that we're redoing, created new,
- [00:07:46.335]it's a total of the 256,000 plus the 164,000
- [00:07:51.229]of Scott Engineering, so we're looking about
- [00:07:53.134]420,000 square feet of new or repurposed space.
- [00:07:59.087]We got a plan later in here that shows all the other areas
- [00:08:02.696]that you currently are using in the Scott link,
- [00:08:06.205]and in Nebraska Hall.
- [00:08:08.362]Now the square footage that is in Nebraska Hall, we're not,
- [00:08:12.696]the direction has been made that
- [00:08:14.290]we're not gonna move out of Nebraska Hall,
- [00:08:15.957]we're gonna maintain square feet in Nebraska Hall.
- [00:08:18.655]And what with that is gonna be called,
- [00:08:21.251]we haven't determined yet but
- [00:08:22.356]we're gonna have space in Nebraska Hall.
- [00:08:24.826]The link, you'll see, we've got some other ideas for that,
- [00:08:28.958]and we'll get into that.
- [00:08:32.679]So that's the basics of the program,
- [00:08:35.516]and we can come back to this as you have questions.
- [00:08:40.925](audience member speaking quietly)
- [00:08:42.257]Yeah.
- [00:08:43.090](audience member speaking quietly)
- [00:08:48.891]Let me turn the microphone on.
- [00:08:50.278]It's 238,000 square feet.
- [00:08:53.114]238,000 square feet, just under 240,000 question.
- [00:08:58.093]And the question was the square footage
- [00:09:00.740]of the new CBA building.
- [00:09:02.828]Yeah, the new square footage for the CBA is 238,000
- [00:09:06.069]and some change.
- [00:09:11.600]Another activity we did, we took some tours.
- [00:09:14.246]Yeah, so thanks Mark.
- [00:09:16.100]So we did, we took some tours of some peer institutions,
- [00:09:19.961]and that's something we always like to do
- [00:09:22.164]any time we get into a programming effort to
- [00:09:25.053]look at other other colleges and universities
- [00:09:28.235]that have done similar projects,
- [00:09:30.032]and hear what they like and don't like,
- [00:09:33.607]and maybe what we do differently.
- [00:09:35.662]So we start with a list of about 10 or 15 peer institutions
- [00:09:39.326]and whittled it down to about three.
- [00:09:41.754]Between the steering committee and ourselves,
- [00:09:45.001]made recommendations of what those institutions should be.
- [00:09:48.395]So the three that we ended up touring is
- [00:09:51.194]the University of Texas San Antonio,
- [00:09:53.361]the University of Texas at Austin
- [00:09:55.091]and also UCLA, all very, very different campuses
- [00:09:59.574]but each had some some great takeaways in the tour.
- [00:10:05.450]So what you see here is some pictures from
- [00:10:08.222]University of Texas San Antonio.
- [00:10:11.105]The large atrium space really kind of
- [00:10:14.161]was the hub of the entire college.
- [00:10:17.090]They had representation of all the different departments
- [00:10:19.043]in the college, which was very interesting.
- [00:10:22.573]And obviously the symbolism and the things that you see
- [00:10:24.933]in in the floor, some design aesthetics
- [00:10:28.249]that we thought was very nice.
- [00:10:31.756]Lab spaces were joined from lab space to lab space,
- [00:10:36.858]which show seemed to work well as they changed out
- [00:10:39.183]with different research, which is interesting.
- [00:10:42.597]So some good takeaways from that.
- [00:10:48.718]They also had a really nice mix of collaboration spaces,
- [00:10:52.564]both side just outside the hallways,
- [00:10:54.327]outside of classroom spaces, and then also,
- [00:10:58.449]student space of their own,
- [00:10:59.864]so that were always very widely used and
- [00:11:03.634]seemed to be very popular and
- [00:11:05.661]something that the faculty really said
- [00:11:07.374]helped keep people there 24/7.
- [00:11:12.017]The UCLA project was,
- [00:11:16.287]was interesting also.
- [00:11:17.491]It was a very dense campus
- [00:11:19.782]in an older part of California, obviously.
- [00:11:23.022]Beautiful foliage and the weather was wonderful.
- [00:11:25.923]But actually, the research space and the interior space
- [00:11:28.688]of their lab actually just seemed very stark.
- [00:11:32.796]You didn't see a lot of activity there.
- [00:11:35.061]Research obviously coming and going and very focused,
- [00:11:39.841]but there was no transparency,
- [00:11:41.361]you couldn't see in as far as the work that they were doing
- [00:11:44.452]and those types of things,
- [00:11:45.949]so a very different feel at UCLA,
- [00:11:49.343]although the campus was gorgeous and the building
- [00:11:52.455]was very nicely done.
- [00:11:54.461]I think some of the takeaways there were
- [00:11:56.648]probably more negative than positive,
- [00:11:58.904]but still a great learning experience for the group.
- [00:12:04.878]And then University of Texas Austin,
- [00:12:06.875]now this was a completely new building
- [00:12:09.255]that was under construction and,
- [00:12:11.864]you know, they say they do things big in Texas,
- [00:12:14.490]well they definitely were here.
- [00:12:17.487]You know, really two buildings in parallel
- [00:12:20.706]with an atrium space on the first couple of floors
- [00:12:24.161]that connected the two buildings.
- [00:12:25.837]What you see here is this large open atrium space with this
- [00:12:31.597]canopy that was built on top,
- [00:12:34.323]that shades all of the transparency,
- [00:12:36.355]you see glass on both sides, there's labs,
- [00:12:39.110]and a lot of transparency,
- [00:12:40.768]so if you're in the lab across the way,
- [00:12:42.679]you can see into the lab on the other side.
- [00:12:45.290]So you know, a very interesting concept.
- [00:12:48.692]And obviously, an expensive concept.
- [00:12:52.751]But,
- [00:12:55.428]the things they were doing there I think were very good
- [00:12:59.458]to compared to some of the takeaways
- [00:13:01.003]that we wanted to look here at the
- [00:13:03.359]Nebraska College of Engineering.
- [00:13:05.711]The design studio space that will be shared
- [00:13:08.993]by all of the departments was on,
- [00:13:10.873]I believe it was a combination of first and second floor.
- [00:13:14.800]And about 40,000 square feet.
- [00:13:16.767]So instead of each department having different
- [00:13:19.026]design studios or maker spaces,
- [00:13:21.525]it was all in one level
- [00:13:22.861]and about 40,000 square feet were shared.
- [00:13:25.427]And the steering committee really like that aspect of it,
- [00:13:28.510]and thought it was something they could bring in
- [00:13:30.029]to the college here.
- [00:13:33.638]So anyways, some very, very different
- [00:13:36.197]institutions but some really great takeaways.
- [00:13:38.964]And I think it'll bring a lot to our program statements,
- [00:13:41.748]some of the things that we liked and we want to add
- [00:13:43.986]into the college.
- [00:13:50.539]So project opportunities, obviously here is some
- [00:13:52.995]photos of listing buildings that we have here to work with.
- [00:13:56.858]You know, one of the first things we did was
- [00:13:58.637]that we toured the buildings and we looked at
- [00:14:01.787]the master plan that was done by another firm,
- [00:14:04.509]and some takeaways from that.
- [00:14:06.497]You know, the good, the bad and
- [00:14:08.329]opportunity that we need to look at it
- [00:14:09.797]at this future building.
- [00:14:11.610]You know, lighting's a concern,
- [00:14:13.114]HVAC's obviously a concern.
- [00:14:14.995]You know, we've maxed out the amount of
- [00:14:18.211]hoods that we can have in the lab spaces,
- [00:14:21.271]and all of those things, we took into consideration
- [00:14:23.920]and how we look to either repurpose buildings
- [00:14:26.633]or to build new.
- [00:14:32.316]And this was a graphic that that we always like
- [00:14:35.475]to use in our presentations.
- [00:14:37.313]I'm not sure if the University came up with this or not but
- [00:14:39.876]you know, just to emphasize how important the
- [00:14:42.010]College of Engineering is to the state.
- [00:14:44.576]And you know, it's
- [00:14:47.632]been endorsed obviously by the legislature.
- [00:14:50.578]They understand it, they understand the need.
- [00:14:52.639]They've applied resources to the College of Engineering
- [00:14:55.954]so obviously, it's a very exciting time.
- [00:15:03.620]So our next steps were to, you know,
- [00:15:05.991]once we had an idea of the program
- [00:15:08.360]and how much a additional space that we needed,
- [00:15:11.692]we looked at the master plan
- [00:15:14.398]and we looked at the possible opportunity sites of where
- [00:15:17.653]this new square footage could potentially be.
- [00:15:20.085]And we brought folks in from facilities that Jennifer Dam
- [00:15:24.388]who heads up the master planning efforts for facilities
- [00:15:28.049]was instrumental in working with our group as far as
- [00:15:31.777]identifying those locations and
- [00:15:34.893]what we should be looking at that surrounds
- [00:15:38.116]the College of Engineering complex.
- [00:15:42.493]So there are five sites that we actually looked at and
- [00:15:45.579]these are the five here that you see, the four up
- [00:15:48.982]to the north which are the different engineering symbols,
- [00:15:52.556]Pi, Omega, Infinity, and Sigma.
- [00:15:55.047]Our civil engineer just wanted to have some fun with
- [00:15:57.323]how we labeled those.
- [00:15:59.540]And then the red dot, which is ultimately
- [00:16:02.466]the site that we chose to focus on.
- [00:16:06.915]So each of the four sites up north had some challenges,
- [00:16:11.312]either the Pi site was in the flood plain,
- [00:16:13.734]which became an issue.
- [00:16:16.455]There was some soil issues of some,
- [00:16:18.236]of the rail line that came through a long time ago,
- [00:16:21.570]so there's some soil remediation that would have to be done.
- [00:16:24.297]So a lot a lot of those things
- [00:16:26.900]that we took into consideration,
- [00:16:28.299]money that would have to be spent before
- [00:16:30.095]building even came out of the ground.
- [00:16:32.499]The Omega site actually was earmarked for a future
- [00:16:35.847]campus rec project, and they felt pretty strongly that
- [00:16:39.067]that was actually gonna happen,
- [00:16:40.320]so that was taken off the table.
- [00:16:41.909]And then the Sigma site, there's some major utilities
- [00:16:44.711]that run through that site.
- [00:16:46.388]And then it just seemed too small and then,
- [00:16:49.450]the connection to Nebraska Hall just didn't seem like
- [00:16:53.793]a strong enough connection for a new building
- [00:16:55.715]for the College of Engineering, so that was eliminated.
- [00:16:58.847]So ultimately, the red dot site,
- [00:17:01.376]which is currently the parking lot in the old
- [00:17:03.773]mathematics building there, next to Sandoz Hall
- [00:17:07.969]was what was ultimately chosen.
- [00:17:10.132]And there's a lot of things that we liked about that site.
- [00:17:12.914]Obviously, the exposure on Vine Street,
- [00:17:15.385]which will continue to be a main thoroughfare
- [00:17:17.752]by the college, you know, making it a statement there,
- [00:17:21.761]kind of catty corner from the College of Business
- [00:17:24.739]as a signature building.
- [00:17:26.633]Made a lot of sense.
- [00:17:27.696]The access down 17th Street, looking north,
- [00:17:32.205]and what kind of a statement we can make there is,
- [00:17:35.024]as the folks were driving down 17th Street,
- [00:17:37.692]and could actually see the College of Engineering.
- [00:17:40.585]And then not to mention on game days,
- [00:17:43.015]people walking down Vine Street and
- [00:17:45.368]if we create some transparency to the new building,
- [00:17:48.254]people could actually see the activities
- [00:17:49.924]and some of the exciting projects
- [00:17:51.350]that the college is doing, you know?
- [00:17:53.424]That's one of the things,
- [00:17:54.357]as I toured the existing buildings,
- [00:17:57.296]all of the great work that's being done by students
- [00:18:00.316]and faculty here in the building,
- [00:18:01.918]you basically can't see walking down the hallway.
- [00:18:05.016]You know, how can we find ways to celebrate that
- [00:18:07.861]in a new building and create a new image for the college,
- [00:18:11.430]for recruitment, for faculty, for research,
- [00:18:15.360]and for all of the,
- [00:18:17.221]all the reasons that we know are important to the college.
- [00:18:21.762]So with that, I'm gonna let Mark talk about
- [00:18:24.628]sort of our design thoughts
- [00:18:25.613]and opportunities moving forward.
- [00:18:28.364]So here's our site, and here's Abel, Sandoz,
- [00:18:31.189]and as we all know, there's a steady stream of students
- [00:18:34.492]that pass this pathway through here that takes us to campus.
- [00:18:40.921]The master plan calls for 17th Street to be closed.
- [00:18:44.659]So this has the opportunity to capture this space
- [00:18:47.979]as a courtyard.
- [00:18:49.813]There could be that indoor/outdoor connections,
- [00:18:51.946]could be the outdoor spaces that
- [00:18:54.093]maybe there's a track there that we can run our Baja Cars.
- [00:18:58.187]Maybe there's a place where you can grow stuff,
- [00:19:01.361]fly drones, all those kinds of things would really make this
- [00:19:04.117]an active outdoor space.
- [00:19:06.256]But with that being said,
- [00:19:08.187]17th Street is also gonna be closed
- [00:19:11.054]south of this, Vine Street.
- [00:19:13.654]So that's gonna be a pedestrian mall,
- [00:19:14.889]so it's still gonna be a really prominent view access
- [00:19:17.941]as you go north on 17th Street mall
- [00:19:20.812]that have it terminate at the College of Engineering.
- [00:19:24.894]We do have to provide fire and rescue and service access
- [00:19:30.500]to these building so,
- [00:19:32.710]one idea was that we would take a route through here,
- [00:19:37.845]'cause we don't have to go up 17th Street
- [00:19:40.400]to provide that access,
- [00:19:42.181]just as long as we can get conveniently from Vine Street
- [00:19:46.264]up into this area, or from 16th Street,
- [00:19:49.623]even through this area right here.
- [00:19:51.671]We have limited access from the north.
- [00:19:54.117]We can't turn left, and we can't,
- [00:19:57.605]we can't turn left coming into it
- [00:19:58.901]and we can't turn left going out of it,
- [00:20:00.607]we can only go right in, right out.
- [00:20:02.296]So there's a little limitation here,
- [00:20:04.223]but we still can access from this point.
- [00:20:11.110]Hey Mark?
- [00:20:11.951]16th Street becomes two-way, just for everybody's--
- [00:20:16.218]Thanks Ken.
- [00:20:17.249]Yeah, 16th Street will be a two-way street.
- [00:20:21.385]I had another thought here, oh yeah.
- [00:20:22.668]17th Street to be closed.
- [00:20:26.429]We did have a, Brad,
- [00:20:27.681]you had a meeting with student housing.
- [00:20:30.790]Just with what we're proposing here as far as adding on
- [00:20:33.470]close to the dorms there's a,
- [00:20:36.127]we gotta be a little sensitive that we're not peeking
- [00:20:39.130]20 feet into someone's dorm room so,
- [00:20:43.513]and we also were talking about some scale there,
- [00:20:45.973]so we're gonna be careful about that edge between
- [00:20:49.175]the new construction and Sandoz.
- [00:20:54.529]And these are just some utilities that we had to consider,
- [00:20:57.026]and there's not a lot of utilities in this area.
- [00:20:59.236]Yeah, we were pretty surprised.
- [00:21:00.775]It's a happy, happy surprise.
- [00:21:02.815]This is that mathematics building that is gonna be gone.
- [00:21:07.946]Parking here that we can build that into.
- [00:21:11.400]Now, we also looked at the link here,
- [00:21:15.692]and I'll just reveal the hand here that
- [00:21:20.858]the concept that we ended up with is that
- [00:21:22.758]we took the link out.
- [00:21:26.437]We get to replace it, expand it.
- [00:21:30.016]Yeah.
- [00:21:31.617]So and if do end up doing that,
- [00:21:33.945]you can see there's a lot of utilities here
- [00:21:35.519]tucked up along the south side in Nebraska Hall.
- [00:21:38.705]So this would be, you know, a viable place right here
- [00:21:41.499]for some new construction.
- [00:21:45.367]So here's just some contact shots.
- [00:21:47.365]Here's that mathematics building
- [00:21:49.462]that would be torn down.
- [00:21:51.048]Here's Abel, then Sandoz off to the side.
- [00:21:53.601]So we got this.
- [00:21:54.699]It's a little exaggerated as far as this perspective,
- [00:21:57.288]the view angles but it's a pretty good sized footprint
- [00:22:00.185]that we were able to develop.
- [00:22:02.726]And then looking north from 16th Street
- [00:22:05.267]you can imagine a building right here that
- [00:22:09.360]could be the focus building of this part of campus
- [00:22:12.928]for College of Engineering.
- [00:22:15.176]And this is that pathway for some students to take
- [00:22:18.593]from Abel to Sandoz.
- [00:22:21.870]Here's an inventory of all the spaces that
- [00:22:24.776]are currently being used by College of Engineering.
- [00:22:27.088]What you see colored for Othmer,
- [00:22:29.093]and basically, are gonna stay as they are.
- [00:22:33.476]If it's red, I'll give you the color code here,
- [00:22:37.029]so we use this in our design charrette.
- [00:22:39.671]Red pieces are research labs.
- [00:22:42.944]Orange pieces are classroom labs.
- [00:22:47.304]Blue is workplace or office space.
- [00:22:49.925]And then yellow, which we didn't show any yellow here
- [00:22:52.480]is that shared area as far as breakout space,
- [00:22:55.836]collaboration spaces.
- [00:22:57.652]Now the gray area are the other spaces
- [00:23:01.030]that are currently assigned to the College of Engineering.
- [00:23:04.381]So, and Scott,
- [00:23:06.481]Scott Engineering, if you added up all that gray area,
- [00:23:10.722]that's about 164,000 square feet.
- [00:23:13.771]The link, I'm just going from memory here,
- [00:23:15.715]but I think there's about 24,
- [00:23:18.862]25,000 square feet of space that's currently being used
- [00:23:22.425]by the College of Engineering.
- [00:23:24.173]And then in Nebraska Hall, the net area that's in use
- [00:23:29.104]by the College of Engineering is about 52,000 square feet.
- [00:23:33.401]And so, that was part of the ground rules
- [00:23:35.390]when we went into the charrette is that
- [00:23:37.233]there's gonna continue to be 52,000 square feet of
- [00:23:41.221]occupied space by the College of Engineering
- [00:23:43.671]in Nebraska Hall, whether it's all office or whether it's,
- [00:23:48.786]you know, breakout space or meeting room space,
- [00:23:51.961]is yet to be determined but,
- [00:23:54.028]looking at the bones of Nebraska Hall,
- [00:23:57.385]it's not that conducive, say research labs
- [00:24:00.221]and that sort of thing.
- [00:24:01.394]So that's probably gonna happen there.
- [00:24:03.256]But looking at Scott Engineering,
- [00:24:06.342]once you take it down to the bones,
- [00:24:08.891]it's got a good floor to floor height, 16 foot eight,
- [00:24:12.468]so it does have the,
- [00:24:14.999]the backbone to to support research.
- [00:24:18.803]The high base space that, you know, right over here,
- [00:24:21.935]we probably won't mess too much with that,
- [00:24:24.120]that's an expensive space.
- [00:24:25.413]It's functional, it's got the dimensions that it needs.
- [00:24:28.999]There'll be new mechanical and electrical
- [00:24:32.317]and building systems, but that'll probably stay
- [00:24:34.320]basically that high base space.
- [00:24:39.766]So this was our third charrette.
- [00:24:42.346]We did the student charrette, we did the site charrette,
- [00:24:45.480]and this is what we're calling the concept charrette.
- [00:24:48.326]And we had a bunch of pieces, puzzle pieces, and these,
- [00:24:54.229]all these pieces, we had two teams going on,
- [00:24:56.496]they each had their own kit and those pieces represented
- [00:25:00.358]to scale the square footage that's needed to
- [00:25:03.830]make up the deficiency.
- [00:25:05.893]So the red pieces are what we,
- [00:25:07.891]what is currently not in the building.
- [00:25:10.395]For research, we had the orange pieces, there's classrooms
- [00:25:14.552]and class labs.
- [00:25:16.472]The blue pieces were workplaces, office space.
- [00:25:20.612]And then the yellow was that breakout collaborative space
- [00:25:23.586]and shop type, that shared space.
- [00:25:26.299]So we had, like I said, these two teams,
- [00:25:29.798]and we just, they put these puzzles together
- [00:25:32.420]with the black pieces, obviously being existing spaces
- [00:25:36.014]on top of the site plan that, at the same scale.
- [00:25:39.374]We started exploring.
- [00:25:41.059]We had enough pieces, or square footage to represent
- [00:25:47.044]Nebraska, Scott Engineering, so we had to fill that up
- [00:25:51.510]with 164,000 square feet.
- [00:25:54.310]And then what was left was that 256,000 square feet
- [00:25:57.492]that had to have, be placed somewhere on site here.
- [00:26:01.514]And we'd,
- [00:26:03.840]we'd put one idea together, we'd take a picture of it,
- [00:26:07.468]and then we'd move things around and
- [00:26:09.457]it was hard to get a still time where we could take
- [00:26:12.821]a picture because these pieces were constantly
- [00:26:14.735]being moved around by, you know, 12 different hands
- [00:26:17.684]or 16 different hands.
- [00:26:20.183]This is very interactive, which is really what,
- [00:26:22.799]what the goal was.
- [00:26:24.988]So as we explored the different ideas,
- [00:26:27.245]these are just a few of the
- [00:26:30.480]layouts that were recorded by camera.
- [00:26:35.164]So for instance in this case, we had a,
- [00:26:39.252]probably about a five story new building right here
- [00:26:44.053]off of 17th Street,
- [00:26:46.085]with a bridge that linked across to Othmer.
- [00:26:49.659]And then this is all of
- [00:26:52.216]Nebraska, or, I keep calling it Nebraska,
- [00:26:54.418]Scott Engineering, with some new construction
- [00:26:57.370]along here, and then a new bridge.
- [00:27:00.726]This is a,
- [00:27:02.167]this particular scheme built the addition,
- [00:27:05.681]right up against Othmer, created a courtyard
- [00:27:08.998]on the south side on center with 17th Street.
- [00:27:13.799]And just, you know, different variations.
- [00:27:17.850]So we compiled these images,
- [00:27:21.162]and then we did an explanation,
- [00:27:23.101]each team, we put them up on the screen
- [00:27:26.283]and we talked about the things that we liked and didn't like
- [00:27:28.939]with each of the different options.
- [00:27:32.545]I think we started out, didn't we start out like
- [00:27:34.444]18 or 19 different picture concepts
- [00:27:37.488]that came out of the two teams?
- [00:27:39.852]Different options, and then that got whittled down,
- [00:27:43.030]whittled down, but I just,
- [00:27:45.703]we got that that which came out of the whole thread.
- [00:27:49.864]Yeah.
- [00:27:50.986]I think the big takeaway from this exercise for me was
- [00:27:53.763]how many square feet we have on a very limited site?
- [00:27:58.373]When you think of a building that's bigger than CBA,
- [00:28:01.566]going between your facility, housing,
- [00:28:05.690]and along the vacated driveway,
- [00:28:08.957]it's a lot of space to get in that building.
- [00:28:13.059]And for you that are not familiar with CBA,
- [00:28:14.816]that's five stories, plus the lower level to get that
- [00:28:17.326]square footage in there.
- [00:28:19.351]So this being slightly bigger than that,
- [00:28:23.245]it's even a bigger challenge.
- [00:28:25.057]So this exercise for me demonstrated
- [00:28:29.809]the scale of what we need to do there and,
- [00:28:32.476]and the challenges that will happen.
- [00:28:35.406]Yeah, we talked a lot about
- [00:28:37.683]how tall should the building be?
- [00:28:39.523]I mean, there's some limitations when you look at
- [00:28:41.314]research anyway that you don't want to go too tall
- [00:28:43.715]because then you run into some extraordinary cost.
- [00:28:48.523]Scale-wise, you know, we're up against Sandoz,
- [00:28:51.139]we're up against Othmer.
- [00:28:52.907]You know, how do we balance that?
- [00:28:55.680]But yet, still maintain a real focal point,
- [00:28:58.421]you know, with this new construction?
- [00:29:01.029]You know, transparency, John was talking about
- [00:29:03.414]when we walked through these different buildings how,
- [00:29:06.509]you know, some labs, it's nice to have some transparency.
- [00:29:10.168]Now that's maybe getting a little ahead from where we're at,
- [00:29:12.784]but just, maybe put some of you at ease,
- [00:29:15.416]we're not talking about a
- [00:29:16.485]full glass wall into research labs.
- [00:29:20.083]There's got to be a balance, right?
- [00:29:22.929]'Cause you need wall space to serve the function of
- [00:29:28.182]the research lab.
- [00:29:30.211]So they're, those things, we'll take into consideration but
- [00:29:33.111]as we talked about the lower floor, the grade, ground floor,
- [00:29:37.678]maybe even the second floor, you know how,
- [00:29:40.812]how dynamic that would be if we did have good transparency
- [00:29:44.190]into those spaces, and that's where we had
- [00:29:46.491]the collaboration spaces and we had maybe the,
- [00:29:50.038]the design center for students to be actively working on
- [00:29:53.220]projects and having a senior design meeting spaces,
- [00:29:57.966]and a gallery space, that was something else
- [00:30:00.066]that we talked about.
- [00:30:01.456]So when you walk by, you look into the main entrance just by
- [00:30:05.013]what's being on display and what's being shown,
- [00:30:07.925]you know it's not a CBA building or it's
- [00:30:12.605]not the College of Architecture, you know,
- [00:30:15.067]it's the College of Engineering.
- [00:30:18.023]So that identity was very important.
- [00:30:22.469]We also talked about, at University of Texas in Austin,
- [00:30:27.279]John described this shop, fabrication area of
- [00:30:31.301]40,000 square feet where they didn't have
- [00:30:33.477]shops sprinkled about the building,
- [00:30:35.286]but they had them in the center.
- [00:30:37.486]And we did talk about that concept too, about how
- [00:30:42.383]convenient that would be and collaborative that could be
- [00:30:45.382]if we had the shops together,
- [00:30:48.665]so we had the different technicians together,
- [00:30:52.030]and so if I have a project I'm working on,
- [00:30:53.964]and I need an electrical part,
- [00:30:57.329]I don't have to walk 500 feet to the other shop
- [00:31:00.091]and talk to that technician and, "Rats, he's not there",
- [00:31:02.546]so I have to come back, but it's all right there.
- [00:31:05.647]And if we added up all the shop space
- [00:31:08.028]that we have in our program,
- [00:31:09.278]we're right at that 40,000 square feet.
- [00:31:12.414]So that could be a pretty dynamic space.
- [00:31:18.365]So just really quickly, this is a synthesis of
- [00:31:22.153]the ideas that were shared at the charrette,
- [00:31:25.285]and this is extremely diagrammatic,
- [00:31:27.861]but it does represent, I'll start with the square footages.
- [00:31:32.399]This piece right here that's over the parking lot
- [00:31:35.034]and the mathematics building, what you see here,
- [00:31:38.011]footprint-wise could be a range of
- [00:31:40.063]148,000 to 178,000 square feet of new construction.
- [00:31:44.582]And this is showing a new construction on the north side of
- [00:31:48.008]Scott Engineering replacing the link,
- [00:31:51.917]and that new construction could be anywhere from
- [00:31:53.700]86,000 to 108,000 square feet,
- [00:31:56.154]depending on how many floors we're talking about.
- [00:31:58.791]Now in this case, this is,
- [00:32:02.372]so we get a total of anywhere from 234 to 277
- [00:32:07.614]total gross square feet,
- [00:32:09.543]you can kind of see this section where we have Othmer Hall,
- [00:32:13.240]we got the Basement Level 1, 2, and 3,
- [00:32:15.946]and then the fourth level back,
- [00:32:17.515]there is a mechanical building systems, a penthouse.
- [00:32:21.484]So in this configuration, we are showing the basement,
- [00:32:25.772]and we have a main ground level which, as you walk out here,
- [00:32:30.499]you know, the street is about eight feet lower
- [00:32:33.341]than the first floor of Othmer,
- [00:32:36.152]so if we were to build that floor at a lower level,
- [00:32:39.386]and extend it up to the second floor of Othmer,
- [00:32:43.310]we'd have a lot more volume there,
- [00:32:44.896]so I think we have a little more flexibility
- [00:32:46.913]what we could do in that space.
- [00:32:48.320]If it's a big, like a big auditorium or
- [00:32:51.396]it just, a larger bay for gallery space and research space,
- [00:32:55.552]or not research space, but collaboration space.
- [00:32:58.917]Hey Mark?
- [00:33:00.417]Yeah? Hey Mark just real quick,
- [00:33:01.715]I think maybe everybody's following,
- [00:33:03.839]but do you want to kind of give everybody an orientation?
- [00:33:06.553]To the graphic of Othmer, Scott,
- [00:33:08.831]and just collectively of where Sandoz and Abel are at?
- [00:33:12.649]If you can just turn that just,
- [00:33:14.095]most everybody may be following,
- [00:33:15.536]but not everybody may be so, if you don't mind, please?
- [00:33:18.397]Sorry, I got ahead of myself.
- [00:33:20.234]Yeah you did.
- [00:33:21.289](Ken laughing) I did.
- [00:33:23.839]Rein me in Ken, rein me in.
- [00:33:27.020]16th Street is right here, which will be two-way.
- [00:33:29.928]We got Othmer Hall.
- [00:33:31.122]We got Sandoz.
- [00:33:34.462]Scott Engineering, and Nebraska Hall up here.
- [00:33:37.584]Now this, we just coined this the forum concept and that,
- [00:33:41.347]as I mentioned, that eight foot of grade difference,
- [00:33:44.763]and I'm just guesstimating that, you know,
- [00:33:46.843]it's probably eight to 12 feet from 17th Street up to the
- [00:33:51.892]first floor of Othmer,
- [00:33:54.625]what an opportunity here it'd be to
- [00:33:56.986]leverage that grade change and create an outdoor
- [00:34:00.777]forum seating area.
- [00:34:02.413]And it could be almost all covered by a bridge
- [00:34:06.457]that would link the new addition to Othmer
- [00:34:09.386]on the second and third floor.
- [00:34:11.937]Then this would open up into this courtyard and,
- [00:34:14.971]you know, we talked about the service access.
- [00:34:18.032]So this would be a route here that would be
- [00:34:21.463]available for fire and rescue
- [00:34:23.288]and perhaps service to this building.
- [00:34:25.843]We also, if we do rebuild this,
- [00:34:27.960]we should be able to get the navigation necessary
- [00:34:31.988]to get trucks through and off of 16th Street
- [00:34:35.303]into this area as well,
- [00:34:36.880]and still leaving this available for right in and right out.
- [00:34:40.962]I have a question on 16th Street.
- [00:34:42.578]How's it gonna be traffic there,
- [00:34:44.347]now you are making two lanes, with both lanes,
- [00:34:46.700]and then there's the school bus, stuff like that coming in?
- [00:34:49.826]How's it gonna be?
- [00:34:51.391]Yeah that, I don't know if Brad, do you wanna?
- [00:34:54.232]As far as the two-way traffic,
- [00:34:56.264]if you're concerned about that,
- [00:34:58.130]you have to remember that campus traffic through campus
- [00:35:01.181]in the master plan is gonna be severely limited.
- [00:35:05.309]The concept of the master plan is that there'll be
- [00:35:09.983]perimeter parking and become much more pedestrian
- [00:35:13.225]on the interior.
- [00:35:14.896]16th, 17th Street is one that will be maintained,
- [00:35:16.974]it's a two-way street but,
- [00:35:19.285]the traffic engineers are working on that,
- [00:35:21.801]and they believe that it's a sound concept,
- [00:35:24.933]and that will work.
- [00:35:26.284]But no, I think the access to
- [00:35:27.817]parking lot is gonna be a little bit, you know, not easy.
- [00:35:31.439]Yeah.
- [00:35:33.339]The site that was north of
- [00:35:36.940]was that Nebraska Hall?
- [00:35:38.889]In the master plan is designated as
- [00:35:40.731]a parking structure possibly there.
- [00:35:43.099]We have the structure to the east and
- [00:35:47.501]the site that is just to the east of the new CBA building
- [00:35:53.032]is earmarked to be a parking structure.
- [00:35:56.004]That one I'm a little bit skeptical with
- [00:35:57.886]not that it would actually work there because
- [00:35:59.438]the footprint is pretty small,
- [00:36:01.905]but that is envisioned as a parking garage
- [00:36:05.286]with lower level being some other office use.
- [00:36:11.049]So the master plan is done in conjunction with the city,
- [00:36:14.696]and right now they are in negotiations
- [00:36:16.537]with the street closing.
- [00:36:19.863]But, I guess I don't know how to reassure you that
- [00:36:22.400]it's been thought of in the design, but it has been.
- [00:36:26.823]Yeah.
- [00:36:30.536](audience member speaking quietly)
- [00:36:32.490]Oh, you have questions in Omaha?
- [00:36:36.503](audience member speaking quietly)
- [00:36:44.772]Yeah, potentially.
- [00:36:47.448]Maybe the comment repeated.
- [00:36:49.828]Yeah.
- [00:36:51.325]So as we talked about this forum,
- [00:36:56.161]talked about this forum seating here,
- [00:36:58.590]here's the current connection to Abel, Sandoz.
- [00:37:02.758]You know, we have a good flow through here where they can,
- [00:37:07.039]as they walk by, they can look into some glass area here
- [00:37:10.377]into this active space,
- [00:37:14.282]and then bring you up to the pathway to the campus.
- [00:37:18.921]Now this is 17th's mall right here,
- [00:37:23.173]so that would be the main entrance
- [00:37:24.619]on access with the mall,
- [00:37:28.008]and set the building back so that we can have a,
- [00:37:31.241]kind of a courtyard area on the south side
- [00:37:33.570]along Vine Street.
- [00:37:35.632]As we mentioned, this being an accessor here,
- [00:37:39.228]we've also just, this is very diagrammatic,
- [00:37:41.756]but step the building back and this area as well
- [00:37:44.373]to create a nice court area right outside of Sandoz,
- [00:37:48.743]and as you're looking through here,
- [00:37:50.059]you can see Abel Hall towering in the background
- [00:37:55.444]and not have so much of
- [00:37:58.579]view lines between Sandoz
- [00:38:00.721]and the new addition there.
- [00:38:05.846]And then as we look at a pathway even this way,
- [00:38:09.512]you know, we continue that that's currently
- [00:38:12.046]going along the south side of Othmer.
- [00:38:13.947]And as you're driving down Vine Street
- [00:38:15.695]or walking down Vine Street,
- [00:38:17.439]just the prominence of that building there standing will be
- [00:38:22.077]I think very eye-catching.
- [00:38:26.156]And conceptually, we're taking, you know,
- [00:38:28.811]taking into consideration-- Can you explain, whoops.
- [00:38:33.899]Mark, you might want to rep entirely accommodating
- [00:38:37.709]Abel students, you know, coming, moving in and moving out,
- [00:38:41.369]as well as the flexibility of that area
- [00:38:43.478]for engineering purposes.
- [00:38:46.272]Yeah, this geometry right here, this circle
- [00:38:49.555]is the diameter that would accommodate a fire truck
- [00:38:52.883]or a semi truck to turn around.
- [00:38:54.601]So that could be a route that is actually taken for
- [00:38:59.078]Abel, Sandoz students, although a lot of them
- [00:39:02.151]load and unload on the east side,
- [00:39:04.392]on the back side of this.
- [00:39:05.612]It would also preserved that west side access as well
- [00:39:10.719]all the way through here, or you know, this direction here.
- [00:39:16.673]And I think the concept there is that we don't have
- [00:39:18.783]a lot of non-emergency use on the drive between
- [00:39:22.532]Sandoz and our new structure.
- [00:39:25.147]This is gonna look more like it's
- [00:39:27.155]serving pedestrians rather than vehicles.
- [00:39:30.070]Yeah, it's not intended for day to day driving.
- [00:39:33.524]That was my question, thank you.
- [00:39:35.454]Okay, great.
- [00:39:40.993]So this is again just some 3D massing.
- [00:39:44.932]There's very little architectural detail here,
- [00:39:48.072]it's just representing square footage and maybe some scale.
- [00:39:53.002]So--
- [00:39:53.840]I had to back him off,
- [00:39:54.842]because I wanted to jump into design.
- [00:39:56.431]Yeah Mark,
- [00:39:57.936]Mark had it a lot further along than this.
- [00:39:59.981](Ken laughing)
- [00:40:01.563]I says, "We're not there yet."
- [00:40:02.913]I had to put my colors away. "I had some ideas."
- [00:40:05.129](Ken laughing)
- [00:40:07.739]So this is just showing, you can see that that level there
- [00:40:12.280]has a higher floor to floor height,
- [00:40:13.884]that's on the street level.
- [00:40:16.201]This level right here ties into the second floor of Othmer,
- [00:40:20.316]then the third floor is right here.
- [00:40:23.377]Then we have a fourth floor above Othmer
- [00:40:25.854]which is about the, would be the scale of this print house.
- [00:40:30.228]And then we'll have another floor above that,
- [00:40:32.469]just to get the square footage
- [00:40:33.633]that I had shown on that diagram,
- [00:40:35.889]which will be primarily building systems up here.
- [00:40:39.008]Now if you, if we were to slide down,
- [00:40:42.534]the height of this is pretty close
- [00:40:44.303]to the same height of Sandoz,
- [00:40:45.766]so that's kind of a nice relationship too.
- [00:40:49.661]Just to show you a few views here.
- [00:40:51.612]Now this is also showing in the background of
- [00:40:54.961]the other addition, potentially on the north side of
- [00:40:58.200]Scott Engineering.
- [00:41:02.508]This doesn't, we didn't get the sawtooth
- [00:41:05.186]cut into this model, so this would actually be
- [00:41:07.317]even cut back further from what you see in this view.
- [00:41:15.665]And this right here, these two floors would be above
- [00:41:19.670]a walkway similar to what you have at Othmer,
- [00:41:22.069]if we wanted to, just to continue that gesture there
- [00:41:25.181]for folks that are walking along Vine Street
- [00:41:27.519]to go to the game.
- [00:41:29.587]So it gives some more exposure to the College of Engineering
- [00:41:33.288]as they're walking by.
- [00:41:39.474]And then this is looking from the northwest
- [00:41:41.366]back to the south.
- [00:41:42.948]So here's 17th's mall right here.
- [00:41:47.752]You can see the space between the new building
- [00:41:51.444]and the residence halls.
- [00:41:53.730]And this would be the addition
- [00:41:55.828]on the north side of Scott Engineering.
- [00:42:00.848]So, and if you can imagine that courtyard area,
- [00:42:03.276]just the opportunities and potential there
- [00:42:06.306]of what could be done in that enclosure.
- [00:42:09.814]Scale-wise, you know, there are tall buildings there
- [00:42:12.839]but there's enough space between them
- [00:42:14.673]that I think it'll feel,
- [00:42:17.242]feel scaled, it'll feel great,
- [00:42:20.065]and it will be able to get some sun back in here too.
- [00:42:26.172]And then the other, the relief valve,
- [00:42:28.339]if there's additional square feet that's needed,
- [00:42:30.984]there is potential of adding on to the east side of
- [00:42:35.079]Scott Engineering.
- [00:42:37.115]We did show that on a few schemes and we kind of said,
- [00:42:39.896]"No, let's don't mess with that",
- [00:42:42.413]but it is possible if we need to.
- [00:42:47.986]And that's where we landed after our
- [00:42:52.444]concept design workshop.
- [00:42:56.067]There a few people here I know that were part of that,
- [00:42:57.869]and thank you for your participation.
- [00:43:00.942]It's weighed in really, really nicely.
- [00:43:06.642]Anything else?
- [00:43:11.519](audience member speaking quietly)
- [00:43:14.169](Mark laughing)
- [00:43:16.158]Can you please repeat the question?
- [00:43:17.332]On the floor, we'll stack it.
- [00:43:20.513]Mark, can you please repeat the question?
- [00:43:23.430]The question was,
- [00:43:24.320]"Where will the food and snacks be located, what floor?"
- [00:43:29.639]I love the priorities.
- [00:43:31.128](Ken laughing)
- [00:43:33.230]Yes?
- [00:43:35.579](audience member speaking quietly)
- [00:43:38.172]Where will handicap parking be?
- [00:43:43.674]There is some handicap parking inside on the
- [00:43:48.010]side of the current, the link area.
- [00:43:52.110]I think we would have to maintain that parking.
- [00:43:55.727]Most of the parking will be on the perimeter,
- [00:43:57.348]but we will maintain handicap accessible parking
- [00:44:00.261]inside the courtyard area.
- [00:44:02.922]Again, we want to try to minimize traffic to the southeast,
- [00:44:06.876]so it'll be somewhere in the order of a roundabout.
- [00:44:13.607](audience member speaking quietly)
- [00:44:18.118]Campus has a standard of how much they have to have
- [00:44:20.872]within the building, for each building,
- [00:44:23.785]so there will be, I don't know offhand but there will be
- [00:44:26.491]a certain number that's established.
- [00:44:28.144]The question was, is there a minimum number
- [00:44:29.787]of handicap stalls required?
- [00:44:32.006]Yeah.
- [00:44:35.071]Yes?
- [00:44:36.338](audience member speaking quietly)
- [00:44:41.505]Would you all mind pushing the buttons?
- [00:44:43.544]Oh, that's right.
- [00:44:44.377]We can't hear the questions.
- [00:44:46.968]The question is,
- [00:44:47.837]are there construction and design issues in regard to
- [00:44:51.590]cooperation from building that close to Vine Street?
- [00:44:57.742]You want to take that one?
- [00:44:59.136]It would be the same as
- [00:44:59.969]what we have at Othmer right now.
- [00:45:02.900]You might be limited in the type of
- [00:45:04.531]equipment you put there.
- [00:45:06.548]You're probably not gonna put electron microscopes
- [00:45:08.415]in the immediate vicinity of that.
- [00:45:11.670]When we get the specifics of each lab requirement,
- [00:45:15.819]we'll get into that.
- [00:45:17.892]This concept really concentrates on what's the labs being in
- [00:45:22.503]Scott Engineering, and back behind the addition
- [00:45:26.148]to Scott Engineering.
- [00:45:28.529]Those types of spaces are envisioned
- [00:45:30.389]primarily going in that area,
- [00:45:31.656]although we can't say there won't be something going into
- [00:45:34.464]the Vine Street area.
- [00:45:36.058]Yeah, just when we, as we're doing this program statement,
- [00:45:41.085]we're not gonna have everything nailed down
- [00:45:42.822]exactly where it's gonna be located,
- [00:45:45.206]but we just want to see what things will fit.
- [00:45:48.088]For instance, if we were to take all the
- [00:45:49.700]research lab space of, what was it, 188,000 square feet?
- [00:45:56.123]We would be able to fit that all into Scott Engineering
- [00:46:00.571]and the new addition, so that would be,
- [00:46:03.142]that would be an option that would be possible.
- [00:46:07.462]Yes?
- [00:46:09.790]I have three questions,
- [00:46:11.057]and a couple of them about basements.
- [00:46:14.161]Is there a basement under the north building?
- [00:46:19.211]Yes, it would tie into the--
- [00:46:21.731]Okay, so that essentially becomes four stories
- [00:46:25.712]with the basement.
- [00:46:27.787]Then at one time, we talked about an issue in Othmer Hall
- [00:46:33.447]being able to deliver equipment to it,
- [00:46:39.754]deliver equipment into the basement area.
- [00:46:41.828]That's right.
- [00:46:42.661]And we thought about maybe solving that by,
- [00:46:47.130]by creating a basement connection between
- [00:46:50.139]the new building and Othmer,
- [00:46:52.606]but it looks like it's not matching up very well.
- [00:46:56.994]That's something that will,
- [00:46:58.495]yeah, it doesn't in this section.
- [00:47:00.562]You know, maybe-- But you'll fix that?
- [00:47:02.546]Maybe we'll be able to link that, yes.
- [00:47:06.478]That is a possibility--
- [00:47:07.404]Actually, if we look at grade level here,
- [00:47:14.031]there may be a way to come across that actually is almost
- [00:47:17.273]to the basement level of this.
- [00:47:19.020]That's something we'd have to look at,
- [00:47:21.839]but we are maintaining access--
- [00:47:23.968]So we don't want you
- [00:47:24.801]to forget about that.
- [00:47:25.674]Yeah.
- [00:47:26.507]Okay, then one other thing,
- [00:47:29.702]what is the sequence of construction?
- [00:47:32.535]Right now, the way it's stated in the,
- [00:47:36.310]in our brief, we basically get done probably
- [00:47:41.905]in the spring of 2022.
- [00:47:46.464]But how do we take care of the remodel of Scott Engineering?
- [00:47:51.823]When is that done, we have to move people out of there,
- [00:47:55.561]so I just wondered if you thought about
- [00:47:57.239]the sequence of construction and
- [00:47:59.700]how that's gonna be accomplished?
- [00:48:02.819]Mark, do you want me to answer that,
- [00:48:04.239]or Brad, do you want to?
- [00:48:05.729]I'll take a shot and then you can fill in
- [00:48:08.009]where I make a mistake.
- [00:48:09.596](Mark laughing)
- [00:48:11.021]We have thought about it.
- [00:48:13.028]And if you look at the agenda,
- [00:48:15.931]we have a range of design and a range of construction.
- [00:48:20.122]And the path that we pick will affect both.
- [00:48:25.922]In my mind, the leading proposal would be to do the addition
- [00:48:31.451]on the corner of Vine.
- [00:48:34.537]I used that as our own swing space to move people into it
- [00:48:37.764]while we remodel and tear down the link and redo the link.
- [00:48:43.031]That is a program that lengthens the construction window,
- [00:48:49.435]but I think it's probably the most viable path.
- [00:48:53.969]There is not gonna be 150,000 square foot swing space
- [00:48:58.754]anywhere on campus to move people to during construction or
- [00:49:02.269]100,000 square foot even.
- [00:49:05.143]And so I think we have to create our own swing space
- [00:49:07.089]before we remodel it,
- [00:49:08.551]therefore I think the construction window does stretch
- [00:49:10.518]to about three years.
- [00:49:12.192]If you have a year and a half to two years construction,
- [00:49:15.674]another year of remodeling, that's where we came up
- [00:49:19.499]with the three-year construction window.
- [00:49:22.836]If there is an opportunity to do the entire
- [00:49:27.437]facility at one time, there would be some cost-saving,
- [00:49:29.852]there'd be some time-savings,
- [00:49:31.765]but I don't think we have a good plan for where people go
- [00:49:36.418]when we tear down the link.
- [00:49:41.474]You can actually,
- [00:49:44.523]you have to wait for 17th Street to be cleared and occupied.
- [00:49:48.561]And utilities be moved--
- [00:49:50.067]That's correct.
- [00:49:51.069]Before you can start construction
- [00:49:52.229]but if you started on the, with the north building,
- [00:49:55.227]you wouldn't have to wait for that.
- [00:49:57.145]That's true, but you do have to find some swing space
- [00:49:59.649]for activities in the link.
- [00:50:02.040]So--
- [00:50:02.917]But that's, we can do that?
- [00:50:04.988]Yeah, that's a possibility.
- [00:50:08.016]But the,
- [00:50:10.242]17th Street closing is in the works right now,
- [00:50:14.554]they are in discussions with the city on how and
- [00:50:17.769]when that will be closed.
- [00:50:20.161]We believe it's viable during the timeframe of our project
- [00:50:24.617]that that will be closed and be available for development.
- [00:50:27.974]So they are discussing that right now with the city.
- [00:50:31.433]Well if you're gonna stay on schedule,
- [00:50:32.633]you have to it closed probably by March of 2018.
- [00:50:38.190]In that range, yes.
- [00:50:39.438]At least.
- [00:50:40.782]And probably, the utilities move.
- [00:50:44.029]Again, there's not a whole lot of utilities in there,
- [00:50:47.056]that's insurmountable but yeah, that is true.
- [00:50:51.729]That is an advantage I guess of having a portion
- [00:50:54.123]of the new construction being on the north side of Scott.
- [00:51:01.096]Saw somebody else's hand.
- [00:51:02.923]Yeah?
- [00:51:03.811](audience member speaking quietly)
- [00:51:13.857]So the teaching will be done in the the new construction,
- [00:51:16.430]or yeah, the new construction in the southeast corner,
- [00:51:19.696]the southeast corner building?
- [00:51:21.073]That's kind of where they'll be mostly teaching,
- [00:51:23.071]the new teaching areas, teaching spaces, is that true?
- [00:51:26.501]Well we have 256,000 square feet of deficient space,
- [00:51:30.485]and the majority of that is research.
- [00:51:33.072]But we have a,
- [00:51:34.543]we have a balance of all the other spaces too,
- [00:51:37.152]so what's been talked about is the first two levels
- [00:51:40.276]of this addition would be primarily those shared areas,
- [00:51:45.869]gallery space, breakout space, collaborative space,
- [00:51:50.236]all those spaces that make a lot of sense to be transparent
- [00:51:53.311]so people can see what's going on.
- [00:51:55.519]And as you work up to your second, third, fourth floors,
- [00:52:00.056]that's where you get into more of the teaching labs maybe
- [00:52:03.417]and the research labs.
- [00:52:05.471]Okay, yeah, I'm just trying to make up my own day as I,
- [00:52:09.148]you know, I'm kind of buried down in Nebraska Hall.
- [00:52:12.558]So the foot traffic to and from that building,
- [00:52:15.251]is there like a, has there ever been some thought as to,
- [00:52:18.374]so professors are gonna be streaming back and forth
- [00:52:20.379]between Nebraska Hall and this new building all day long,
- [00:52:22.981]for teaching or research or whatever it is
- [00:52:24.672]'cause the office space is over there Nebraska Hall.
- [00:52:26.750]So that path of the foot traffic, has that been--
- [00:52:30.598]That's our next step.
- [00:52:33.230]We kind of identified where the construction would occur
- [00:52:36.317]and perhaps the buildable footprints,
- [00:52:39.002]and now we're gonna need to look at
- [00:52:40.406]how those spaces are organized,
- [00:52:43.036]and how we establish a sensible path of travel, wayfinding.
- [00:52:50.920]And part of the project is to remodel
- [00:52:53.358]portions of Nebraska Hall so,
- [00:52:56.089]whose office is where is yet to be determined.
- [00:52:58.670]So that that may be a driving factor in
- [00:53:01.051]moving some of those offices to a different location.
- [00:53:03.854]But as we talked earlier, we're not gonna
- [00:53:05.450]give up more square footage in Nebraska Hall,
- [00:53:07.985]we're gonna find the best use for that space.
- [00:53:11.555]Maybe it's offices, but maybe it's not.
- [00:53:18.495]We will have offices in Nebraska Hall,
- [00:53:20.184]and we will have teaching in this new area,
- [00:53:22.911]so there will be this flow, regardless of where--
- [00:53:26.404]We have to consider that, the traffic pattern
- [00:53:28.951]between the addition and the existing facilities, yes.
- [00:53:45.573]Hello?
- [00:53:48.408]Yeah, I have two questions.
- [00:53:49.905]One I think is a small question.
- [00:53:51.725]Do you need two circles there?
- [00:53:55.645]Because if you put two circles,
- [00:53:56.770]then there's not much court space, courtyard left.
- [00:54:00.470]I mean--
- [00:54:01.446]Yeah, and with this made out of, you know,
- [00:54:03.616]this whole middle area could be a different material.
- [00:54:06.433]We're just showing that, scale-wise, you know,
- [00:54:09.285]you could actually have a little track in there.
- [00:54:12.855]Okay, it looks like, yeah, okay.
- [00:54:14.512]So that was my small question.
- [00:54:16.669]The next question is actually the same as
- [00:54:19.892]my colleague's third question.
- [00:54:23.460]I want to understand this.
- [00:54:25.316]So basically, when you do the renovation
- [00:54:26.795]of the Walter Scott, let's say if I think of a large lab,
- [00:54:33.142]let's say my colleague, Dennis Alexander,
- [00:54:36.220]who I do a lot of work with,
- [00:54:38.838]and it involves a huge number of optical cables
- [00:54:42.598]and lasers and so on and so forth,
- [00:54:45.253]will that lab be transferred to somewhere else?
- [00:54:52.329]And the reason I'm asking this is I,
- [00:54:56.326]there's basically, there's a lot funding
- [00:54:59.224]that comes into those labs,
- [00:55:01.778]and it comes with deadlines and contracts.
- [00:55:06.046]And I think that the sense of destruction of
- [00:55:09.595]moving a lot to some place and then bringing it back
- [00:55:12.221]or whatever will be done.
- [00:55:14.593]I would like to know more.
- [00:55:16.353]Mine, it will be easier.
- [00:55:17.685]I do computational work, recently been doing some
- [00:55:21.007]experimental work, but there are labs that,
- [00:55:24.942]I don't see how this will be resolved.
- [00:55:27.845]I agree, there's gonna be some labs that
- [00:55:29.699]you only want to move them once, right?
- [00:55:32.436]Move them right into their new space, and then they're done.
- [00:55:35.440]That's gonna be a whole process
- [00:55:38.012]and when this becomes funded,
- [00:55:41.363]and we can go into schematic design,
- [00:55:43.574]that's the first thing we're going to do is
- [00:55:45.642]okay, which are the labs that need to be replaced,
- [00:55:48.869]and you're not gonna more them more once, okay?
- [00:55:52.539]And then which are the labs that yeah,
- [00:55:54.435]we can move them to a temporary spot for maybe a year
- [00:55:58.413]and then move them back to their new spot.
- [00:56:00.428]So it's gonna be a whole process of evaluation
- [00:56:03.246]and assessment of what goes where and when.
- [00:56:07.799]We're not gonna have all that figured out.
- [00:56:09.727]We do have the luxury though of having, you know,
- [00:56:12.911]over 200,000 square feet of new space that we can build
- [00:56:17.355]and have that available to either be the permanent home
- [00:56:20.577]of whatever lab it is, or a temporary home for that lab.
- [00:56:25.770]The 250,
- [00:56:28.505]the new building has a lot less research space.
- [00:56:31.506]It's that north part that has research space
- [00:56:33.784]that will help you with--
- [00:56:35.036]Yeah, yeah.
- [00:56:36.737]I think another thing that may be the answer
- [00:56:39.342]to that question, as I interpreted it was,
- [00:56:43.337]you know, ultimately, once we know what the timeline is
- [00:56:47.506]for the project specifically as we move forward
- [00:56:50.887]is to get the schedules of the research projects
- [00:56:53.804]that are going on, and finding out when those timelines,
- [00:56:57.818]you know, are completed,
- [00:57:00.039]to try to basically, and not have to move somebody
- [00:57:03.737]while they're doing their research,
- [00:57:06.183]but hopefully leave them in place until their
- [00:57:08.705]contractual obligations are complete without moving them.
- [00:57:12.346]I think optimally, when we know the final timeline,
- [00:57:14.598]we get the schedules from the investigators
- [00:57:16.650]what the research projects are, when they are completed
- [00:57:20.334]and try to minimize,
- [00:57:22.285]try not to move them if we don't have to,
- [00:57:24.539]but are trying to make it as timely and you know,
- [00:57:27.461]as appropriate as possible, but yet get through the project.
- [00:57:30.397]But I think what your question was is
- [00:57:33.125]we work with those potentially that are on
- [00:57:36.159]critical timelines to not disrupt their research
- [00:57:39.422]investigative process and that's something,
- [00:57:41.793]once we know the final project and the schedule and
- [00:57:44.586]how it's gonna be delivered and working with the schedules
- [00:57:46.914]that you're working with, work in that hand in hand
- [00:57:50.014]to try to minimize that, you know,
- [00:57:52.485]absolutely minimize that as it would be very important,
- [00:57:56.293]I would agree with you.
- [00:57:58.225]Yeah, and that product delivery will be decided
- [00:58:01.660]as we do the programming, finish the programming
- [00:58:06.218]type of contractor we'll be using.
- [00:58:08.606]I'll tip my hand a little bit but I'm pretty strong in favor
- [00:58:10.796]of doing a construction manager at-risk type contract,
- [00:58:14.296]where the builder will be working out with the architect
- [00:58:17.014]to finalize the drawings, and at that point,
- [00:58:19.931]we'll have a very detailed schedule of
- [00:58:21.836]what portions are gonna get remodeled, which ones don't.
- [00:58:25.647]I mean, there's some recently, excuse me,
- [00:58:28.269]recently remodeled spaces in Scott
- [00:58:32.733]that we probably don't want to remodel again,
- [00:58:36.785]that was just recently done.
- [00:58:38.977]So we will try to coordinate our plans
- [00:58:41.903]with the existing use to make sure that we,
- [00:58:45.653]we're not being silly, spending money, you know?
- [00:58:48.095]And there is just a remodel,
- [00:58:50.766]we are gonna try to take advantage of that
- [00:58:52.269]and not necessarily get those areas.
- [00:58:55.456]But we haven't, the Regents haven't approved the program yet
- [00:58:59.457]but I believe we're gonna request
- [00:59:01.686]the construction manager project so that
- [00:59:05.093]we can team up with a contractor early in design,
- [00:59:08.383]get realistic time schedules for when the area will be
- [00:59:11.327]taken offline and brought back online.
- [00:59:14.619]And to me, this is a complicated enough project,
- [00:59:17.012]phasing-wise, so that it makes the most sense to me
- [00:59:19.691]to use that.
- [00:59:22.531]It'll be a fun puzzle to work through and figure out
- [00:59:26.295]how to accommodate the transition in the phasing.
- [00:59:39.716]I was just curious.
- [00:59:43.473]The half floors on the north side
- [00:59:45.326]of Scott Engineering Center.
- [00:59:49.223]That they're, that there's some offices or research areas
- [00:59:53.513]that are, I consider them half floors,
- [00:59:57.653]that are like down the hall, this way,
- [01:00:01.437]they're on the north side.
- [01:00:08.850]Talking about right here?
- [01:00:14.115]Oh.
- [01:00:15.623]About high base?
- [01:00:17.403]You're talking about
- [01:00:18.236]which ones that have been filled?
- [01:00:19.891]No, down.
- [01:00:22.470]Farther west.
- [01:00:24.570]Farther west?
- [01:00:25.636]Yeah. Right here?
- [01:00:27.781]Right there. Right there.
- [01:00:31.825]Those guys.
- [01:00:32.834]'Cause those are floors that don't match up.
- [01:00:37.967]Yeah.
- [01:00:44.005]I don't know when that was done,
- [01:00:46.062]and I haven't been in those spaces,
- [01:00:47.511]but I definitely scratch my head every time I walk by there.
- [01:00:50.521](chuckles)
- [01:00:52.786]That would be redone.
- [01:01:03.344]Is there a concern at all with this getting held up
- [01:01:05.541]at the Board of Regents?
- [01:01:06.976]Or, you know, once we get to that point
- [01:01:10.154]and it's October, is their concern that
- [01:01:12.978]it actually may take them a couple meetings
- [01:01:14.779]to get this approved?
- [01:01:15.899]Or do we have a concept of kind of where,
- [01:01:18.646]where they are already standing on this project?
- [01:01:22.364]The University has already gone to the state,
- [01:01:25.246]requesting money, so it,
- [01:01:27.840]at the highest levels it's been,
- [01:01:29.831]the concept has been vetted.
- [01:01:33.629]I don't know who's gonna be at the Board of Regents meeting
- [01:01:36.378]and I can't predict everyone's vote.
- [01:01:42.078]We believe we have a good proposal going forward.
- [01:01:45.678]We'll finish our design concepts.
- [01:01:49.886]Delays that might occur
- [01:01:51.685]in the fundraising part of the project.
- [01:01:54.994]We have to have a financing plan.
- [01:01:58.455]Do we proceed with design while we do fundraising?
- [01:02:02.756]Probably.
- [01:02:04.920]How long is that fundraising, that part of the project take?
- [01:02:09.034]It's a possibility though that
- [01:02:11.271]we might have to do a pause for fundraising.
- [01:02:13.970]We have $70 million that's earmarked.
- [01:02:16.328]Do we go ahead and do the first half of construction
- [01:02:19.686]with that and fundraise?
- [01:02:23.183]We don't have the financial plan fully figured out yet.
- [01:02:33.660]I have a question.
- [01:02:36.704]I have a question regarding the,
- [01:02:38.371]where it says the potential fire and rescue access.
- [01:02:42.532]So--
- [01:02:43.897](audience member speaking quietly)
- [01:02:52.401]Yeah.
- [01:02:53.982](audience member speaking quietly)
- [01:03:06.641]You consider--
- [01:03:08.348](audience member speaking quietly)
- [01:03:23.560](audience laughing)
- [01:03:25.048]Little things on a bike.
- [01:03:26.437]I think the courtyard has a lot of potential providing
- [01:03:30.734]places like that for bikes.
- [01:03:33.798]And we are showing a bigger gap between
- [01:03:38.184]Scott Engineering and Nebraska Hall, you know,
- [01:03:41.628]this dimension right here, we're expanding that.
- [01:03:45.936]So that we have a little bit of margin there of
- [01:03:48.537]having something on that edge but I think,
- [01:03:52.133]did you just say that maybe the courtyard,
- [01:03:54.053]we could do something like that?
- [01:03:55.896]Yeah.
- [01:03:57.182]It's getting harder and harder with these buildings to
- [01:03:59.245]be on a bike and get between buildings.
- [01:04:01.231]So I'm thinking like if you just considered that pathway
- [01:04:05.203]that you drew that goes down between that area,
- [01:04:08.613]to the courtyards, to the new building,
- [01:04:10.779]if we're gonna be going back and forth between those?
- [01:04:13.456]Between office space and Nebraska Hall,
- [01:04:15.278]and the teaching spaces in--
- [01:04:17.898]And the concept is not that we're gonna have a lot of
- [01:04:20.595]traffic going into the courtyard.
- [01:04:22.501]It's service deliveries, emergency vehicles,
- [01:04:27.687]a few ADA parking stalls but,
- [01:04:31.037]the intent is to not encourage heavy vehicle traffic
- [01:04:34.781]in that courtyard, that will be mainly a pedestrian area.
- [01:04:38.899]But the dock, the dock area--
- [01:04:40.187]The dock, we'll have to maintain access to that.
- [01:04:45.632]We do plan to have significant bicycle parking areas
- [01:04:50.336]for the project.
- [01:04:53.279]We do that with all our projects but,
- [01:04:55.335]especially as we become more and more pedestrian campus
- [01:04:57.578]where we don't have vehicles,
- [01:04:58.755]we have to make allowances for that.
- [01:05:01.533]I don't know how many bike spaces you have now,
- [01:05:04.981]but I would venture to guess
- [01:05:06.671]that we're gonna probably double what you have.
- [01:05:09.376]And the other thing too is in master plan,
- [01:05:11.485]16th Street alone will become two-way.
- [01:05:14.129]And they're also planning designated bike lanes
- [01:05:17.733]on either side.
- [01:05:19.053]So yeah, 16th will be much more bike-friendly for sure,
- [01:05:24.726]and I'm sure those connections to the college will be
- [01:05:27.213]highly important to the design team.
- [01:05:30.533]I believe Vine Street also has bike lanes,
- [01:05:33.021]proposed bike lanes on those sides too, right Brad?
- [01:05:36.340]I believe so, yes.
- [01:05:39.081]Yeah.
- [01:05:44.663]Can you back to the numbers slide,
- [01:05:46.689]I think it's like number two or three?
- [01:05:48.810]The program?
- [01:05:57.206]So when you guys got those numbers for
- [01:05:59.065]the utilities, what exactly was included in those numbers?
- [01:06:04.695]'Cause right now, from the students side,
- [01:06:07.098]we are beyond out of space and only increasing it by four,
- [01:06:11.008]by 3,500, and doubling our enrollment,
- [01:06:13.653]will never nearly be enough space
- [01:06:15.256]for students to actually use.
- [01:06:17.618]So I'm just wondering, what went into that?
- [01:06:19.790]Well, there's a little bit of cross over between
- [01:06:21.751]study facilities and general use facilities.
- [01:06:24.563]There's some meeting room space in one category
- [01:06:28.208]and collaboration space in another category so it's
- [01:06:31.660]these two combined can meet some of those
- [01:06:36.984]student use spaces that they're looking for.
- [01:06:41.103]So if you look at those,
- [01:06:42.723]we've got 8,500 compared to
- [01:06:46.966]1,500, so we're not quite doubling it.
- [01:06:50.051]The other thing to keep in mind, these are net numbers,
- [01:06:53.953]so when we had this circulation space,
- [01:06:56.097]'cause that's gonna impact these breakout areas.
- [01:06:58.846]'Cause they're not not necessarily rooms,
- [01:07:01.117]rooms, rooms, rooms, they're open space
- [01:07:03.645]with circulation through it so they're gonna be actually
- [01:07:06.660]larger than what the program shows.
- [01:07:09.428]So if I've got a 500 square foot collaboration space
- [01:07:15.729]with a 10 foot swath added through there,
- [01:07:18.665]you know, we just add another 300 square feet to that space.
- [01:07:26.082]What are some of the spaces that you're
- [01:07:28.767]really looking, looking to make sure
- [01:07:30.871]they're in the new building?
- [01:07:33.432]Well the only student space
- [01:07:34.937]that I really see now is the library.
- [01:07:39.159]That's all people really have access to use.
- [01:07:41.543]And you know, when I look at our peer institutions,
- [01:07:45.247]K State were pretty, especially with their new buildings,
- [01:07:48.822]they have just floors for students.
- [01:07:51.777]I know that's not possible for this but,
- [01:07:54.756]I'm just making sure that there's enough space
- [01:07:56.650]for students to use, not just during
- [01:07:58.855]hours that somebody's supervising,
- [01:08:00.949]but 24/7 with computers and everything.
- [01:08:04.212]'Cause I know that's one of the things that
- [01:08:05.339]colleges are looking at to is eliminating or limiting
- [01:08:08.744]our use of computer lab space,
- [01:08:11.084]and getting rid of some of those,
- [01:08:12.384]and that's a huge asset to the students.
- [01:08:15.088]So I'd make sure that's not being taken away
- [01:08:17.152]by remodeling and in the new building.
- [01:08:19.949]Okay.
- [01:08:23.155]I guess going back to the square footage,
- [01:08:27.270]we didn't really talk much about it,
- [01:08:28.380]but the square footage is derived based on growth
- [01:08:31.196]of students' enrollment.
- [01:08:34.320]And as part of the benchmarking exercise we,
- [01:08:38.361]I don't know what their spreadsheet had,
- [01:08:40.507]20 different institutions, engineering colleges,
- [01:08:44.584]what their population translates into square foot.
- [01:08:47.930]And so that's all, here's some mathematical calculations,
- [01:08:52.133]we can assume square foot per students,
- [01:08:54.923]for classrooms, for researchers, for faculty staff.
- [01:08:59.446]That's, he's got one slide there, the spreadsheet is huge,
- [01:09:03.609]it's got a lot of calculations in involved in it.
- [01:09:07.815]But it's based on the peer,
- [01:09:10.598]peer institutions, the formula,
- [01:09:14.733]and University has a tendency to want to be more efficient
- [01:09:19.028]in their calculations by making pathways usable spaces.
- [01:09:24.633]They're not just circulation, there'll be
- [01:09:28.738]nooks and crannies and spaces, often circulation spaces
- [01:09:32.290]to make it a more humane space,
- [01:09:34.686]but also a more usable space.
- [01:09:36.715]So, I will take your comments into consideration, certainly.
- [01:09:40.971]So kind of along those same lines, like by comparison,
- [01:09:44.451]how much space is in Adele Learning Commons?
- [01:09:47.004]'Cause that's really an open concept,
- [01:09:48.966]has those breakout study spaces.
- [01:09:50.848]It's not including obviously the senior design project,
- [01:09:54.722]like the shop area would be different but
- [01:09:56.919]how large is the Adele Learning Commons,
- [01:09:59.478]just for comparison sake?
- [01:10:01.448]I don't know that number.
- [01:10:04.809]Hey Mark, they might talk about that read,
- [01:10:08.149]there was a good comment you had there in terms of,
- [01:10:11.441]you know, in terms of the lab space and it how it was
- [01:10:14.464]determined relative to talking about RFD.
- [01:10:17.405]RFD is our lab design consultant,
- [01:10:20.816]and what Brad was referring to,
- [01:10:22.946]is they have a spreadsheet that basically talks about
- [01:10:26.817]different programs, the square foot, for research that,
- [01:10:32.176]you know, by different institutions
- [01:10:34.982]It was a matrix that basically, here's the, you know,
- [01:10:38.173]mechanical materials engineering,
- [01:10:40.124]and the average square footage cross plate.
- [01:10:43.055]What is it about, 15, or 20 different institutions,
- [01:10:46.392]and how much they all had allocated for research.
- [01:10:48.858]And so we took a look at that old matrix, and kind of said,
- [01:10:51.763]"Okay, this is where we think we need to fit in relative to
- [01:10:55.188]"projected number of faculty members,
- [01:10:57.744]"we'll be able to go and research, you know, a lot of,
- [01:11:02.274]"10 year faculty members."
- [01:11:04.448]And so that's what we use
- [01:11:05.676]to kind of work our way through to a square footage
- [01:11:07.848]in terms of bike.
- [01:11:09.070]Each program and an average square foot per research
- [01:11:11.989]relative to each respective, you know, department, okay?
- [01:11:17.764]So it wasn't just like we grabbed something,
- [01:11:20.020]it was basically looking across the country,
- [01:11:22.413]at peer institutions to come up with those numbers.
- [01:11:26.164]I think what you're saying to your point is,
- [01:11:28.103]don't forget about the student space.
- [01:11:30.098]What's gonna make this college active 24/7?
- [01:11:34.860]You know, having the computer lab,
- [01:11:36.765]having those things accessible to students,
- [01:11:39.153]and places where you can study and collaborate.
- [01:11:42.682]That's what you're saying, do not forget, right?
- [01:11:46.044]Yeah, one of things that when we met with the students,
- [01:11:49.898]it was consistent with each group that
- [01:11:53.154]we just want access to power,
- [01:11:56.438]a place I can sit down and plug in,
- [01:11:58.527]which is pretty hard to find apparently, right now.
- [01:12:02.611]And don't forget the coffee shop with some food.
- [01:12:05.358]That's right.
- [01:12:07.387]CBA building, when it's finished, you'll see
- [01:12:12.340]a lot of breakout spaces that can be reserved
- [01:12:15.337]with card readers,
- [01:12:18.622]room schedulers, scattered adjacent to the classrooms,
- [01:12:22.129]scattered throughout the building,
- [01:12:24.846]and I envision that we do something similar here
- [01:12:27.263]that we would have, try to do dual purpose spaces
- [01:12:30.983]as much as possible, card readers on classrooms,
- [01:12:34.052]schedule it when there's not a classroom,
- [01:12:36.197]although I think we're trying to increase the efficiency
- [01:12:39.271]of our classrooms in this building.
- [01:12:44.012]My intent would be that we would do something similar.
- [01:12:46.565]I really encourage you look at CBA when it's finished,
- [01:12:49.229]it's got some great spaces that will be
- [01:12:51.212]very student-friendly.
- [01:12:55.209]Yeah?
- [01:12:58.253]A couple of questions.
- [01:13:00.201]If our program statement's done in July,
- [01:13:02.253]why are we waiting until October
- [01:13:03.616]to go to the Board of Regents?
- [01:13:05.568]Maybe that's the earliest they meet?
- [01:13:06.996]I don't really know.
- [01:13:08.691]You have to have,
- [01:13:11.791]it's a long process.
- [01:13:13.993]You have to have items in the Board of Regents
- [01:13:16.444]about two months prior to their meeting,
- [01:13:18.828]to get all the reviews that are taking place--
- [01:13:20.970]That three month delay
- [01:13:22.189]is probably gonna cost you three or $400,000.
- [01:13:25.286]Is it worth that that?
- [01:13:27.646]October would be about the earliest
- [01:13:28.943]that we can get to the Board of Regents.
- [01:13:30.106]Is it worth three or $400,000?
- [01:13:32.352]Can't you get in earlier?
- [01:13:35.037]I can't say it isn't worth it,
- [01:13:36.729]but I can tell you October's about the earliest
- [01:13:38.412]we're gonna get it approved by the Regents.
- [01:13:40.460]Well then, what's the form of the contract
- [01:13:43.156]that we're contemplating for construction?
- [01:13:47.818]That will be spelled out in the program but
- [01:13:50.903]I believe the lead container's gonna be
- [01:13:52.496]a construction manager at-risk contract.
- [01:13:58.266]I have, whoops, I'm sorry.
- [01:14:00.788]All right, one second.
- [01:14:01.896]Yeah, I have another question.
- [01:14:03.202]I remember during the meeting we had discussed about
- [01:14:06.564]an atrium and it seemed like it was,
- [01:14:09.712]had a lot of people in the meeting like that idea but,
- [01:14:12.045]was it dropped for a particular reason,
- [01:14:14.433]for cost, or it didn't?
- [01:14:18.361]Atrium, atrium, yeah.
- [01:14:20.662]No, it hasn't been dropped.
- [01:14:22.172]It hasn't been dropped?
- [01:14:23.124]Okay.
- [01:14:25.751]The footprint is quite large, so it could,
- [01:14:28.808]you could introduce an atrium in the
- [01:14:31.780]top two floors or something.
- [01:14:33.313]Yeah, it could be on access with 17th's mall here.
- [01:14:36.954]There was a lot of different possibilities there.
- [01:14:40.257]Okay, thank you.
- [01:14:45.775]Anymore questions, Omaha?
- [01:14:49.845]Just to go over where we're at in the process,
- [01:14:51.861]the next steps,
- [01:14:55.171]the next steps are that we will be meeting
- [01:14:57.984]with the steering committee, finalizing our program.
- [01:15:02.306]Although we have square footage allocated in these areas,
- [01:15:04.992]we need to get little bit more details as far as
- [01:15:07.330]what will be on what level and
- [01:15:10.042]exactly what does remodeling Scott involve,
- [01:15:13.107]and exactly what does remodeling of the rest of
- [01:15:15.698]the Hall involve?
- [01:15:18.797]So we do have quite a little bit of that work to
- [01:15:22.062]get some more detail into it.
- [01:15:24.716]But that said, it is still programmic detail.
- [01:15:28.602]We will go through the Board of Regents approval process.
- [01:15:32.341]There will be a, at least a two-month window
- [01:15:34.994]for selecting architect and probably selecting contractor
- [01:15:37.647]at the same time.
- [01:15:39.938]Design,
- [01:15:42.761]we say six to eight months minimum.
- [01:15:47.170]When you have a construction manager, you can probably start
- [01:15:49.774]early phases of construction while you're still doing design
- [01:15:53.334]but again, we're not quite there yet.
- [01:15:57.964]But we will figure out the financial plan as far as
- [01:16:03.323]when we develop the schedule and detail,
- [01:16:04.764]whether or not there needs be a pause for fundraising,
- [01:16:08.766]or if we can roll right into design and construction.
- [01:16:13.138]But I think the agenda is posted online,
- [01:16:17.892]and the slides are online.
- [01:16:20.290]They're on your engineering website,
- [01:16:22.422]under the About The College tab,
- [01:16:25.939]I'm not sure where that is but,
- [01:16:28.060]if you get on your website,
- [01:16:29.057]all this information will be up there.
- [01:16:31.485]We encourage additional comments if you have any.
- [01:16:35.039]We still have a lot of work to do on this to finalize it,
- [01:16:37.578]but we really appreciate your comments.
- [01:16:39.897]We still welcome more comments if you want to
- [01:16:41.294]send something through, through your representatives.
- [01:16:48.081]If there's no other questions, I really appreciate you--
- [01:16:49.865]One more, one more question.
- [01:16:52.820]Is there, are there any news about where the fundraising is?
- [01:16:57.707]I'm not involved in that part of it yet.
- [01:16:59.840]The foundation has a plan,
- [01:17:01.487]but I don't know that they finalized their plans yet.
- [01:17:09.412]Great.
- [01:17:10.484]Thank you very much.
- [01:17:11.317]Thank you. Thank you.
- [01:17:12.955](audience applauding)
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