Historic Tax Credits

Jenny Nixon Author

07/07/2025 Added

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History Nebraska, the Nebraska Department of Revenue, and the Nebraska Department of Economic Development discuss historic tax credits as an opportunity for downtown revitalization. Recorded January 27, 2021.

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[00:00:00.000]So good morning everybody. I
[00:00:12.420]think we're going to go ahead
[00:00:14.000]and introduce our folks because
[00:00:15.820]we're going to talk about
[00:00:17.180]historic tax credits today. I
[00:00:19.130]reached out to Ryan Reed of
[00:00:20.900]History Nebraska and he said,
[00:00:23.000]well, I've got to bring people
[00:00:25.000]with me.
[00:00:25.740]I said, awesome. So Lee Glazer
[00:00:27.980]from the Department of Revenue
[00:00:30.090]is going to talk about any
[00:00:31.740]specific tax questions you
[00:00:33.580]might have. And then Kelly
[00:00:35.250]Bacon is joining us as well
[00:00:36.460]because we need to talk about
[00:00:37.780]that certified local government
[00:00:39.490]program.
[00:00:39.960]So welcome to our guest
[00:00:41.970]speakers today.
[00:00:43.700]Ryan, did you need to share
[00:00:45.640]your screen at all?
[00:00:47.200]Yeah, can you all hear me?
[00:00:50.460]Great. Yeah, so I'm going to
[00:00:54.160]try and share.
[00:00:55.740]Share my screen. So bear with
[00:00:57.390]me on all of this.
[00:00:58.600]Okay, can you see that?
[00:01:05.440]Yes.
[00:01:06.480]Awesome.
[00:01:10.580]Okay, good deal.
[00:01:12.040]So yeah, I am Ryan Reed. I'm
[00:01:13.890]with the Nebraska State Historic
[00:01:16.100]Preservation Office, which is a
[00:01:18.130]part of History Nebraska.
[00:01:20.080]I'm the tax credit coordinator.
[00:01:22.260]I'm also being joined by Lee
[00:01:24.470]Glazer from the Department of
[00:01:24.900]Revenue.
[00:01:25.120]I'm also being joined by Lee
[00:01:25.120]Glazer from the Department of
[00:01:25.120]Revenue.
[00:01:25.120]I'm also being joined by Lee
[00:01:25.120]Glazer from the Department of
[00:01:25.120]Revenue.
[00:01:25.120]I'm also being joined by Lee
[00:01:25.130]Glazer from the Department of
[00:01:25.140]Revenue.
[00:01:25.220]I'm also being joined by Lee
[00:01:25.220]Glazer from the Department of
[00:01:25.230]Revenue.
[00:01:25.280]I'm also being joined by Lee
[00:01:25.280]Glazer from the Department of
[00:01:25.290]Revenue.
[00:01:25.360]I'm also being joined by Lee
[00:01:25.360]Glazer from the Department of
[00:01:25.360]Revenue.
[00:01:25.360]I'm also being joined by Lee
[00:01:25.880]Glazer from the Department of
[00:01:26.330]Revenue, because one of the tax
[00:01:28.630]credit incentives that we have
[00:01:30.210]is a partnership program with
[00:01:32.240]the Department of Revenue.
[00:01:33.880]And so if there's any questions
[00:01:36.380]that come up about the tax side
[00:01:38.760]of this certain program, Lee
[00:01:40.840]can answer those questions
[00:01:42.360]better than I can.
[00:01:43.480]Also, Kelly Bacon is here, and
[00:01:45.960]she's going to talk about
[00:01:48.260]certified local governments.
[00:01:50.620]So I'm not going to take up too
[00:01:52.560]much time.
[00:01:53.480]I'm just going to talk for
[00:01:54.330]about five or 10 minutes.
[00:01:55.360]about the three different
[00:01:58.550]historic tax incentives that
[00:01:59.830]are offered by the federal
[00:02:01.040]government and the state
[00:02:02.180]government.
[00:02:03.000]So let's go.
[00:02:05.620]So we have three, and there's
[00:02:07.510]two that's offered by the state
[00:02:09.720]and one that's offered by the
[00:02:11.320]federal government.
[00:02:12.960]The first one with the state is
[00:02:15.740]the Nebraska Historic Tax
[00:02:18.180]Credit.
[00:02:19.260]And this is a credit towards
[00:02:20.790]your Nebraska state tax
[00:02:22.130]liability equal to 20% of total
[00:02:24.180]rehabilitation.
[00:02:25.360]The second one is called the Valuation
[00:02:28.130]Incentive Program.
[00:02:29.800]And this is a property tax
[00:02:31.550]freeze for eight years on the
[00:02:33.440]pre-rehab value of your
[00:02:35.050]property.
[00:02:36.060]And it increases every year
[00:02:38.590]after that for four years to
[00:02:41.120]the post-rehab value.
[00:02:43.440]As I said earlier, the Nebraska
[00:02:45.650]Historic Tax Credit is a
[00:02:47.450]partnership program between our
[00:02:49.590]office, the State Historic Preservation
[00:02:51.790]Office, and the Nebraska
[00:02:52.960]Department of Revenue.
[00:02:54.220]Okay.
[00:02:55.360]So what we do is we look at the
[00:02:56.760]work you're going to be doing
[00:02:58.230]to the property and make sure
[00:02:59.690]it adheres to standards that we
[00:03:00.990]have to follow.
[00:03:01.780]And once that's approved and
[00:03:03.230]then you finish your project,
[00:03:04.850]then it moves on to the
[00:03:05.900]Department of Revenue.
[00:03:07.400]The Valuation Incentive Program,
[00:03:09.990]that's only our office that
[00:03:11.990]looks at that.
[00:03:13.280]We're in communication with the
[00:03:15.910]building owner and also with
[00:03:18.380]the county assessor.
[00:03:20.280]So all the materials that we
[00:03:21.710]get will also be sending to the
[00:03:23.270]county assessor.
[00:03:25.360]The last one is the Federal
[00:03:27.340]Historic Tax Credit Program.
[00:03:29.520]And this is a partnership
[00:03:31.340]between our office, the SHPO,
[00:03:33.920]the National Park Service, and
[00:03:36.070]the IRS.
[00:03:36.880]This is a credit towards your
[00:03:39.110]federal tax liability equal to
[00:03:41.570]20% of the total rehab costs.
[00:03:44.440]The way this works, it comes to
[00:03:46.900]us first for an initial review.
[00:03:49.380]We look at it against the
[00:03:50.780]standards, which I'll talk
[00:03:52.460]about in a little bit.
[00:03:53.940]And then we forward it to the
[00:03:54.690]National Park Service.
[00:03:55.480]They are the ones that will
[00:03:57.540]make the final review on this
[00:03:59.880]for your project.
[00:04:01.760]And then once you complete your
[00:04:03.370]project, it goes to the IRS,
[00:04:04.830]where they will issue the tax
[00:04:06.300]credit.
[00:04:07.000]Some differences between all of
[00:04:10.370]these.
[00:04:11.400]The Nebraska Historic Tax
[00:04:13.220]Credit is transferable, meaning
[00:04:15.600]you can sell it because
[00:04:17.180]nonprofits and municipalities
[00:04:19.510]can apply for this program.
[00:04:21.600]So that means they can sell it
[00:04:23.520]to receive cash on loan.
[00:04:25.480]They can sell it to a third
[00:04:26.810]party or a financial
[00:04:27.910]institution.
[00:04:28.960]The Federal Historic Tax Credit
[00:04:31.050]is not transferable.
[00:04:32.640]Municipalities and nonprofits
[00:04:34.830]cannot use that.
[00:04:36.160]It has to be an income-producing
[00:04:37.780]property for the Federal Historic
[00:04:39.520]Tax Credit.
[00:04:40.260]For the Valuation Incentive
[00:04:42.170]Program, it can be an income-producing
[00:04:44.900]property, but it can also be
[00:04:46.850]used towards your residents.
[00:04:49.040]One thing these all have in
[00:04:50.940]common is that your building
[00:04:53.030]has to be...
[00:04:55.360]Certified Historic Property,
[00:04:58.110]meaning it's listed on the
[00:04:59.200]National Register of Historic
[00:05:01.130]Places or it's locally listed
[00:05:03.990]through a certified local
[00:05:05.650]government program, which is
[00:05:07.370]what Kelly is going to talk
[00:05:08.350]about a little more.
[00:05:10.160]So there's an application
[00:05:12.490]process for all three of these
[00:05:15.140]programs.
[00:05:16.340]And since they're all different
[00:05:18.420]programs and all deal with
[00:05:20.140]different pools of money, there's
[00:05:23.010]separate applications for all
[00:05:24.180]three.
[00:05:25.360]The lucky thing is that you can
[00:05:27.040]pretty much copy and paste the
[00:05:29.040]information from one into the
[00:05:30.410]other.
[00:05:31.040]So the process starts with a
[00:05:32.590]Part 1 application, and that's
[00:05:34.540]the evaluation of significance.
[00:05:36.700]And that's like I was saying
[00:05:38.370]earlier that your property has
[00:05:40.260]to be listed on the National
[00:05:41.970]Register or locally listed
[00:05:44.100]through a certified local
[00:05:45.190]government.
[00:05:46.280]And so we have to get
[00:05:47.520]information from you on that,
[00:05:48.810]you know, a description of the
[00:05:50.380]building, a statement of
[00:05:52.030]significance, which a lot of
[00:05:53.530]that stuff you can pull out of
[00:05:54.350]the National Register.
[00:05:55.160]So that's the National Register
[00:05:56.160]nomination for the building.
[00:05:57.120]And then photographs to show
[00:05:59.490]the inside and the outside of
[00:06:01.450]the building.
[00:06:02.720]Once that's approved, you can
[00:06:05.070]submit your Part 2 application.
[00:06:07.960]And your Part 2 application is
[00:06:09.240]the description of work. And
[00:06:10.550]this is the real nitty gritty
[00:06:11.750]that we get into.
[00:06:12.580]So you're going to tell us what
[00:06:15.250]you're going to be doing to the
[00:06:16.600]property, you know, and it's
[00:06:17.970]usually separated out by work
[00:06:19.320]items. So work item one would
[00:06:20.830]be your roof.
[00:06:21.380]And you'd explain what you're
[00:06:22.800]going to be doing to your roof.
[00:06:24.400]You know, you're going to tell
[00:06:24.880]us what you're going to be
[00:06:24.880]doing to your property, you
[00:06:24.960]know, and it's usually
[00:06:24.960]separated out by work items. So
[00:06:24.960]work item one would be your
[00:06:24.960]roof.
[00:06:24.960]you're gonna be removing the shingles
[00:06:28.860]and putting asphalt shingles on.
[00:06:30.800]So it's things like that.
[00:06:33.660]And we have to review the work
[00:06:35.360]you're doing
[00:06:35.700]inside the building and outside
[00:06:38.290]the building.
[00:06:39.660]And that usually also includes
[00:06:41.740]a lot of photographs
[00:06:42.760]of the inside and outside of
[00:06:43.850]the building,
[00:06:44.440]because there are times
[00:06:45.720]when we won't actually see the
[00:06:47.230]building.
[00:06:47.960]And if you're doing the federal
[00:06:49.370]historic tax credit,
[00:06:50.260]someone from DC is probably not
[00:06:51.680]gonna come out
[00:06:52.320]and tour the building.
[00:06:53.580]So we need to supply them with
[00:06:54.900]enough information
[00:06:55.860]so they can get a good
[00:06:56.710]understanding
[00:06:57.420]of the inside and outside of
[00:06:58.850]the building.
[00:06:59.800]And depending on the size of
[00:07:01.180]your rehabilitation,
[00:07:02.980]architectural drawings will
[00:07:04.820]also need to be used
[00:07:06.040]if you're replacing windows,
[00:07:08.250]moving walls around,
[00:07:09.580]putting an addition on the
[00:07:10.730]building.
[00:07:11.340]Those are the kinds of things
[00:07:13.500]that are gonna be needed.
[00:07:14.980]Once that's approved, you start
[00:07:19.050]your work.
[00:07:19.680]If anything comes up during the
[00:07:21.250]time you're working on it,
[00:07:22.500]just reach out to us.
[00:07:23.580]Let us know what's going on.
[00:07:25.300]Sometimes that will need an
[00:07:26.970]amendment
[00:07:27.660]if the work is substantial
[00:07:29.960]enough.
[00:07:29.960]An amendment is basically just
[00:07:31.800]telling us,
[00:07:32.540]once we ripped into the roof,
[00:07:35.300]we found out the whole
[00:07:36.130]structure was rotten,
[00:07:36.960]so we need to rebuild the whole
[00:07:38.330]roof.
[00:07:38.760]Things of that nature.
[00:07:41.620]So once your work is done, you'll
[00:07:47.340]submit a part three.
[00:07:48.820]And your part three is
[00:07:50.150]basically saying
[00:07:51.140]what we said we were gonna do
[00:07:52.580]in the part two,
[00:07:53.340]we actually did.
[00:07:55.120]So it's an application form
[00:07:57.340]that you have to fill out,
[00:07:58.500]which is basically just the
[00:08:01.070]property,
[00:08:01.900]the applicant, project contact,
[00:08:03.780]someone that we would speak
[00:08:05.860]with,
[00:08:05.860]and then just a lot of
[00:08:06.780]photographs
[00:08:07.400]showing the completed project.
[00:08:09.940]And I was saying, as I was
[00:08:14.880]saying earlier,
[00:08:15.580]there's standards that we have
[00:08:17.680]to follow by law,
[00:08:18.780]and they're called the
[00:08:19.720]Secretary of Interior Standards
[00:08:21.560]for Rehabilitation.
[00:08:23.340]And what these are is they're
[00:08:26.060]10 standards
[00:08:26.680]that we have to follow.
[00:08:27.860]And what they do is they want
[00:08:31.930]to protect,
[00:08:32.520]maintain, and repair the
[00:08:33.560]historic features
[00:08:34.420]and materials of the house,
[00:08:35.960]the things that made it
[00:08:37.680]interesting enough
[00:08:38.420]to be listed on the National
[00:08:39.860]Register
[00:08:40.420]or locally landmarked in your
[00:08:42.900]community.
[00:08:43.860]And you know, but also make it
[00:08:47.180]functional for modern use.
[00:08:48.300]So we have to look at how it's
[00:08:50.860]compatible for reuse,
[00:08:53.100]make it so it can follow life
[00:08:55.400]and safety codes,
[00:08:56.160]fire codes, to bring it in,
[00:08:58.720]to make it a functional
[00:09:00.060]building.
[00:09:00.880]So like I said, we have to
[00:09:01.930]review the interior
[00:09:02.880]and exterior of the building,
[00:09:04.720]retain the historic character,
[00:09:06.480]and if there's any sort of new
[00:09:08.410]work
[00:09:08.780]that's occurring on the outside,
[00:09:10.160]like an addition or significant
[00:09:12.380]alterations,
[00:09:13.340]we have to review that as well.
[00:09:15.320]So that's just a really quick nitty
[00:09:21.210]gritty of three programs.
[00:09:22.860]That I just kind of wanted to
[00:09:24.860]introduce to you all.
[00:09:26.480]And then I'm gonna just kind of
[00:09:28.530]briefly go over a project
[00:09:30.180]that we had up in Chadron.
[00:09:32.240]This is the Weber Brothers
[00:09:34.730]building.
[00:09:36.020]They did a federal and Nebraska
[00:09:37.770]historic tax credit.
[00:09:39.180]The work was mainly just the
[00:09:42.240]storefronts.
[00:09:44.100]There was a storefront that was
[00:09:46.130]put in
[00:09:46.760]that was non-historic to the
[00:09:48.040]building.
[00:09:48.680]None of the original storefront
[00:09:52.620]existed, so we had some
[00:09:54.490]historic images
[00:09:55.800]to see what existed of the
[00:09:57.660]storefront.
[00:09:58.560]And it was pretty typical,
[00:10:00.540]like large storefront window,
[00:10:02.160]transoms, center doorway.
[00:10:04.500]And so we went through the
[00:10:08.270]review process,
[00:10:10.020]had to make a few tweaks on
[00:10:11.070]what they wanted,
[00:10:11.760]but overall, it was a pretty
[00:10:13.750]straightforward project.
[00:10:15.940]And as you can see too,
[00:10:16.840]they did some work repairing
[00:10:19.070]the cornice at the top,
[00:10:22.380]and also the stone on the front
[00:10:24.150]of the building.
[00:10:25.360]So we needed information on all
[00:10:26.670]that stuff.
[00:10:27.160]And even though they didn't do
[00:10:28.200]any work on the inside,
[00:10:29.220]we still needed some general
[00:10:30.900]photographs of the inside.
[00:10:32.480]So when they finished their
[00:10:34.200]project, they can show,
[00:10:35.820]we said we weren't gonna do any
[00:10:37.950]work,
[00:10:38.320]and here's photos to prove we
[00:10:40.050]didn't do any work.
[00:10:41.420]So on something like this,
[00:10:43.460]when they submitted their part
[00:10:44.910]two to do their work,
[00:10:45.780]they had to send an
[00:10:46.560]architectural drawings
[00:10:47.720]of the new storefront.
[00:10:52.140]This was what was submitted to
[00:10:53.750]us.
[00:10:54.100]So they show us what they're
[00:10:56.270]gonna be putting in
[00:10:57.500]with details showing what the
[00:10:59.500]materials are gonna be,
[00:11:01.700]about the glass that's gonna be
[00:11:03.040]put in and the door,
[00:11:04.000]and then the measured drawings
[00:11:06.600]showing the details,
[00:11:07.980]kind of the cutaways and the
[00:11:09.270]profiles of each of these.
[00:11:10.680]And so once that was approved,
[00:11:13.720]they moved ahead with the
[00:11:14.840]project and completed it.
[00:11:18.720]It was really straightforward.
[00:11:21.900]Like I said, that was really
[00:11:22.970]fast.
[00:11:23.300]That was a lot of information.
[00:11:25.120]It's like any sort of program,
[00:11:26.420]especially with three different
[00:11:27.630]programs,
[00:11:28.000]there's a lot of information to
[00:11:30.010]it, a lot more details.
[00:11:31.760]And if you have any questions,
[00:11:34.360]I'll answer some of the
[00:11:35.250]questions you have now,
[00:11:36.200]but here's my information.
[00:11:38.340]And like I said, I deal with
[00:11:39.770]the building aspects,
[00:11:40.780]the review of the building and
[00:11:41.910]the work you're gonna do.
[00:11:42.900]And then Lee's information from
[00:11:45.930]the Department of Revenue
[00:11:46.920]for any sort of questions about
[00:11:49.450]the tax aspects of
[00:11:51.660]the Nebraska Historic Tax
[00:11:53.200]Credit.
[00:11:53.860]So I'll leave it at that.
[00:11:57.280]Do any of you have any
[00:11:58.640]questions for me?
[00:12:00.080]Guess not.
[00:12:12.880]I know it's a lot to unload on
[00:12:14.530]you,
[00:12:14.800]but if you do have questions at
[00:12:17.340]any time
[00:12:17.760]and wanna learn more about it,
[00:12:18.900]feel free to just send me an
[00:12:20.920]email,
[00:12:21.420]give me a call.
[00:12:22.500]I'll take questions big or
[00:12:23.930]small and we can talk it out.
[00:12:27.500]- Do any of you have-
[00:12:29.440]- I do have a question.
[00:12:30.880]- Okay.
[00:12:31.700]- Go ahead.
[00:12:32.540]- Architectural drawings.
[00:12:33.980]Is that something you guys can
[00:12:35.930]help with
[00:12:36.580]or have a resource to help with?
[00:12:38.080]Or do you just expect the
[00:12:39.750]contractors to provide that?
[00:12:42.060]- Yeah, it has to be provided
[00:12:43.250]by the contractor,
[00:12:44.160]the applicant.
[00:12:45.080]We have resources.
[00:12:48.340]We have a consultant's list
[00:12:49.890]that we can send to you
[00:12:51.180]that recommends different
[00:12:55.980]architects across Nebraska
[00:12:56.180]that you can use.
[00:12:58.920]But yeah, that's something that
[00:13:01.660]we need,
[00:13:02.000]but we don't actually make
[00:13:03.130]those architectural drawings
[00:13:04.140]for you.
[00:13:05.100]One of the things that I was
[00:13:06.140]talking about,
[00:13:06.900]the 20% credit, the way that's
[00:13:08.810]calculated
[00:13:09.560]for these programs,
[00:13:11.380]the state and the federal
[00:13:12.570]historic tax credit program,
[00:13:13.840]you have your overall costs.
[00:13:16.040]And from those costs are
[00:13:17.280]extracted out
[00:13:17.720]your eligible expenditures.
[00:13:19.800]And so your eligible
[00:13:20.430]expenditures,
[00:13:20.940]deal with the historic fabric
[00:13:22.220]of the building,
[00:13:22.860]like masonry, roof, windows,
[00:13:25.580]flooring,
[00:13:26.020]but it also deals with the
[00:13:27.220]mechanics of the building.
[00:13:28.760]So like HVAC, plumbing fixtures,
[00:13:31.740]electrical HVAC, elevators,
[00:13:33.760]as long as they're within the
[00:13:35.330]footprint
[00:13:35.720]of the historic building.
[00:13:36.920]And also part of those costs
[00:13:41.000]are soft costs,
[00:13:41.900]which are architectural fees
[00:13:44.420]that are also included into
[00:13:47.540]those eligible expenditures.
[00:13:49.500]Whatever those eligible
[00:13:50.150]expenditures are,
[00:13:50.700]those expenditures add up to,
[00:13:51.660]that's what your 20% credit is
[00:13:53.390]calculated from.
[00:13:54.500]And if I'm wrong on that on
[00:13:56.730]Nebraska side,
[00:13:58.080]Lee will let me know.
[00:13:59.040]Well, there's no other
[00:14:03.680]questions.
[00:14:05.340]You know, like I said, feel
[00:14:08.280]free to give me a call
[00:14:08.940]or send me an email and I'll
[00:14:11.520]stop sharing my screen.
[00:14:13.380]'Cause I think Kelly's gonna
[00:14:15.870]talk about local landmarking.
[00:14:20.460]- Yeah, are you ready for me to
[00:14:22.190]give my presentation?
[00:14:24.380]Okay, great.
[00:14:25.580]I am going to share my screen
[00:14:30.240]here.
[00:14:31.440]And let me do, there we go,
[00:14:37.700]slideshow.
[00:14:39.460]Yep, I assume everybody can see
[00:14:41.270]that fine.
[00:14:42.060]- Yeah.
[00:14:42.900]- Yeah, great.
[00:14:43.740]So yes, I am Kelly Bacon.
[00:14:45.140]I am the certified local
[00:14:46.860]government coordinator
[00:14:48.700]in the same office that Ryan is
[00:14:49.870]in.
[00:14:50.140]We are actually shared cubicle
[00:14:51.850]walls,
[00:14:52.340]except when we're working, each
[00:14:53.690]working from home.
[00:14:54.460]But I know I've spoken to a
[00:14:56.750]couple of you
[00:14:57.860]about this program in your
[00:14:59.420]community.
[00:15:00.300]So I am absolutely willing to
[00:15:02.910]answer questions,
[00:15:04.420]you know, afterwards other by,
[00:15:06.380]you know, phone or email,
[00:15:08.700]but like Lauren is actually
[00:15:10.570]working on this process in Neely.
[00:15:13.540]So, you know, she can be a
[00:15:14.860]resource too.
[00:15:15.560]And I talked to Chelsea about
[00:15:16.830]the potential in Hemmingford.
[00:15:18.580]So just to give you an idea,
[00:15:19.900]that I do try to get out in the
[00:15:22.140]state
[00:15:22.340]and talk about this program.
[00:15:23.620]So what is the certified local
[00:15:25.680]government program?
[00:15:27.140]And I'm going to refer to it as
[00:15:29.310]CLG
[00:15:29.660]because it's just a lot shorter
[00:15:31.140]and it's the acronym that we
[00:15:32.550]all use for the program.
[00:15:33.980]So it is a preservation
[00:15:35.820]assistance program
[00:15:37.540]and it's a network of
[00:15:38.820]communities and counties
[00:15:41.140]all over the country and then
[00:15:43.740]in Nebraska
[00:15:45.160]that have similar preservation
[00:15:48.940]goals.
[00:15:49.660]Just in the sense that they
[00:15:51.160]have preservation goals
[00:15:52.300]to begin with, it might be a
[00:15:53.760]little bit different
[00:15:54.880]in each community or county,
[00:15:57.460]and that's perfectly fine.
[00:15:59.500]And it provides a mechanism to
[00:16:02.000]protect historic properties.
[00:16:04.500]I don't know how familiar you
[00:16:06.560]are
[00:16:07.220]with the National Register of
[00:16:08.870]Historic Places,
[00:16:09.820]but the National Register
[00:16:11.120]program in and of itself
[00:16:12.420]does not provide any protection
[00:16:14.310]for historic properties.
[00:16:16.020]It's just completely an
[00:16:17.870]honorary listing.
[00:16:19.420]But through the CLG program,
[00:16:21.880]there's a way that you can help
[00:16:24.070]protect
[00:16:24.440]your historic properties.
[00:16:26.560]And it's a way to sustain and
[00:16:28.310]build strong communities
[00:16:29.480]through historic preservation.
[00:16:31.220]It helps provide a sense of
[00:16:33.040]community identity
[00:16:34.500]with your historic buildings,
[00:16:35.900]whether it's your commercial
[00:16:39.290]downtown core
[00:16:40.900]or different residential areas.
[00:16:43.440]So there are five requirements
[00:16:46.830]of the program.
[00:16:49.180]The first is to pass a
[00:16:51.270]preservation ordinance,
[00:16:53.560]and that preservation ordinance
[00:16:55.640]needs to provide
[00:16:56.880]for the protection of historic
[00:16:58.280]properties.
[00:16:59.020]But what that means to you and
[00:17:01.650]your community,
[00:17:02.520]your county is completely up to
[00:17:05.390]you.
[00:17:06.080]Some communities are only
[00:17:07.630]looking at the demolition
[00:17:09.340]of their historic properties.
[00:17:11.160]And so they want to have a
[00:17:12.850]review process
[00:17:13.980]that if the city or a private
[00:17:17.190]property owner wants to demolish,
[00:17:18.940]one of their historic
[00:17:20.150]properties,
[00:17:20.860]and these are properties that
[00:17:21.860]you have determined
[00:17:22.820]to be historic,
[00:17:24.360]that the community gets to have
[00:17:27.370]a conversation about this.
[00:17:29.400]It doesn't mean that the demolition
[00:17:30.940]would necessarily get stopped.
[00:17:33.020]It depends on what your
[00:17:34.010]ordinance says,
[00:17:34.720]but it's a way to at least
[00:17:37.200]review projects.
[00:17:39.320]It could be that your community
[00:17:41.620]wants to review
[00:17:44.060]exterior changes to your
[00:17:45.920]historic properties
[00:17:47.560]and what the exterior changes
[00:17:48.700]are that you want to review is
[00:17:52.720]up to you.
[00:17:53.640]Maybe you want to be able to
[00:17:55.000]review additions to buildings.
[00:17:57.200]Maybe you want to be able to
[00:17:58.420]review window replacements
[00:17:59.960]or roof replacements or
[00:18:01.400]additions or solar panels.
[00:18:04.440]You know, all of those things
[00:18:05.590]are up to you,
[00:18:06.460]what you want to put in your
[00:18:08.320]ordinance.
[00:18:09.400]North Platte is a CLG.
[00:18:12.840]And I forgot to mention which
[00:18:14.030]the one,
[00:18:14.460]which CLGs there are in
[00:18:15.860]Nebraska,
[00:18:16.500]but North Platte and their
[00:18:17.850]ordinance,
[00:18:18.460]all they do is review the demolition
[00:18:21.160]of their historic properties.
[00:18:22.960]Auburn, same thing.
[00:18:24.120]They review the demolition of
[00:18:25.600]their historic properties,
[00:18:27.220]but it only gives a 30 day
[00:18:29.060]delay.
[00:18:29.720]So it doesn't actually stop any
[00:18:31.450]demolition.
[00:18:32.380]It just allows for a
[00:18:33.970]conversation to see
[00:18:35.460]if there can be an alternative
[00:18:37.230]to demolition.
[00:18:38.140]And I'll stop 'cause yeah,
[00:18:39.220]I forgot to mention what the CLGs
[00:18:40.600]are in Nebraska.
[00:18:41.480]They are Auburn, Fairbury,
[00:18:44.340]Lincoln, North Platte, Omaha,
[00:18:47.660]Platt Smith, Red Cloud and
[00:18:50.030]Sydney.
[00:18:51.040]So they are all in different
[00:18:52.910]parts of the state.
[00:18:53.720]And I've talked to communities,
[00:18:55.340]they're all over the state
[00:18:56.690]about the program.
[00:18:57.860]Amelie is exploring the CLG
[00:19:00.420]potential,
[00:19:01.460]Emerson, Ralston, Lancaster
[00:19:03.980]County.
[00:19:04.880]So there's other government
[00:19:07.090]entities across the state.
[00:19:09.260]There are over 2000 across the
[00:19:11.900]country.
[00:19:12.480]And the smallest one that I
[00:19:15.030]know of has a population
[00:19:17.400]of 157, not to say there isn't
[00:19:19.900]anything smaller,
[00:19:20.840]but it is really, it's a
[00:19:21.920]program designed to work
[00:19:23.080]in communities and counties of
[00:19:25.180]all shapes and sizes.
[00:19:26.840]So back to the requirements.
[00:19:29.980]So part of that preservation
[00:19:31.600]ordinance,
[00:19:32.260]you will establish a historic
[00:19:34.070]preservation commission.
[00:19:35.920]The commission needs to have at
[00:19:38.850]least five people
[00:19:40.620]who have either education,
[00:19:43.880]experience, interest in some
[00:19:45.620]field
[00:19:46.600]of historic preservation.
[00:19:49.120]You may not have people that
[00:19:50.890]have degrees
[00:19:51.580]in historic preservation or
[00:19:52.880]architecture
[00:19:53.700]or landscape architecture.
[00:19:55.220]That's okay.
[00:19:56.060]Just find people who are
[00:19:57.200]interested
[00:19:57.800]and your commission members do
[00:20:00.080]not,
[00:20:00.380]unless your city ordinances say
[00:20:02.530]differently,
[00:20:03.420]but as part of the CLG program,
[00:20:07.300]your commission members do not
[00:20:08.990]need to live
[00:20:10.360]within your jurisdiction.
[00:20:12.580]So they just need to have a
[00:20:14.780]knowledge of the historic
[00:20:15.800]resources in the community.
[00:20:19.060]But, you know, it might be that,
[00:20:20.690]you know,
[00:20:20.820]I'll just use Neely since they've,
[00:20:22.680]they're working on the program.
[00:20:24.280]So their commission members
[00:20:25.920]might live
[00:20:26.560]in rural Antelope County, but
[00:20:28.340]maybe, you know,
[00:20:29.220]they grew up in town or maybe
[00:20:30.660]they work in town,
[00:20:31.740]but they're familiar with the
[00:20:33.100]resources.
[00:20:33.820]That's fine.
[00:20:34.660]And depending on where your
[00:20:35.840]community is,
[00:20:36.420]you may be neighboring another
[00:20:39.330]county.
[00:20:40.040]As far as our program goes,
[00:20:42.040]your commission members can
[00:20:43.520]live in a different county even.
[00:20:45.000]You're not putting a geographic
[00:20:46.620]restriction on that.
[00:20:47.840]The third requirement is survey.
[00:20:51.280]I won't speak to you about this
[00:20:53.170]a whole lot,
[00:20:53.860]but a survey is trying to
[00:20:55.880]figure out
[00:20:56.800]what properties would be
[00:20:59.310]historic in your community.
[00:21:01.480]Like I said, that can be kind
[00:21:05.270]of confusing to people.
[00:21:06.540]So I won't say a whole lot
[00:21:08.150]about that,
[00:21:08.940]but you'll be able to find your
[00:21:10.740]own historic properties.
[00:21:14.200]The fifth requirement is health
[00:21:15.860]participation and education.
[00:21:18.240]So your commission is a city
[00:21:20.830]commission,
[00:21:22.240]just like your planning
[00:21:23.880]commission.
[00:21:24.960]Maybe you have a library board
[00:21:26.670]or a cemetery board.
[00:21:27.800]So your, the meetings would be
[00:21:29.280]open to the public.
[00:21:30.320]So that is at a basic level
[00:21:31.940]meets that requirement,
[00:21:33.700]but it's great if you can do
[00:21:34.700]some public education
[00:21:36.240]opportunities, you know, in the
[00:21:38.790]community throughout the year.
[00:21:39.960]And the fifth requirement is
[00:21:41.890]staff.
[00:21:42.580]So there needs to be somebody
[00:21:43.530]in the city or county staff,
[00:21:43.540]that kind of serves as the
[00:21:45.880]director,
[00:21:46.820]I say of the commission, but
[00:21:48.450]this isn't a full-time position.
[00:21:50.600]Like for instance, in Platt
[00:21:52.840]Smith,
[00:21:53.200]the city administrator is the
[00:21:54.730]director of the commission.
[00:21:56.240]He said on average, he spends
[00:21:58.280]an hour a week.
[00:21:59.600]Now that doesn't mean that it's
[00:22:00.760]necessarily one hour
[00:22:01.920]every single week, some certain
[00:22:03.370]times a year,
[00:22:03.880]he works on it more, but then
[00:22:05.160]there could be weeks
[00:22:05.860]where he doesn't work on it at
[00:22:06.830]all.
[00:22:07.120]So it doesn't have to be this
[00:22:09.920]large amount of work.
[00:22:11.660]And we're not asking you to
[00:22:12.740]hire,
[00:22:12.740]to hire an additional person,
[00:22:15.360]but just really there needs to
[00:22:16.800]be somebody
[00:22:17.400]because it's an official
[00:22:18.800]commission.
[00:22:19.500]You need to have somebody who
[00:22:21.680]has the copies of the agenda
[00:22:24.260]for the meetings, the minutes,
[00:22:26.900]any project,
[00:22:27.820]projects that may be submitted
[00:22:29.310]to you.
[00:22:29.800]So, and that, and then somebody,
[00:22:31.620]that person would theoretically,
[00:22:33.240]hopefully attend the commission
[00:22:35.030]meetings also.
[00:22:36.020]So benefits.
[00:22:40.920]So the city ordinance establishes
[00:22:43.380]local landmarking procedures.
[00:22:45.780]And I am here because Ryan
[00:22:47.550]talked about
[00:22:48.280]the Nebraska Historic Tax
[00:22:49.980]Credit
[00:22:50.480]and the Valuation Incentive
[00:22:52.320]Program.
[00:22:52.920]And for those programs,
[00:22:54.880]one of the ways that you can be
[00:22:57.390]potentially eligible
[00:22:58.500]for those two tax incentive
[00:23:00.650]programs is local landmarking
[00:23:03.060]through your historic
[00:23:04.390]preservation ordinance.
[00:23:06.080]And if you're familiar
[00:23:07.660]with the National Register
[00:23:08.890]Program at all,
[00:23:09.580]it's similar to that,
[00:23:10.780]except this list is just within
[00:23:12.340]your community.
[00:23:13.320]So, and you can set kind of
[00:23:15.190]eligibility guidelines,
[00:23:16.760]similar to the National
[00:23:18.210]Register,
[00:23:18.800]but establishing a historic
[00:23:20.960]preservation ordinance,
[00:23:22.880]and then your local landmarking
[00:23:24.420]procedures,
[00:23:25.020]and then locally landmarking,
[00:23:26.400]either individual properties or
[00:23:28.320]districts,
[00:23:29.520]you can potentially open up tax
[00:23:32.140]incentive possibilities
[00:23:33.520]for the residents and property
[00:23:35.500]owners in that district,
[00:23:36.860]and either for the NHTC or the
[00:23:38.800]VIP.
[00:23:38.940]But for the federal tax credit,
[00:23:41.660]that you do need to be listed
[00:23:43.180]in the National Register.
[00:23:44.180]Correct, Ryan?
[00:23:45.060]Yes, okay, he's shaking his
[00:23:46.930]head yes, yep.
[00:23:48.120]So unfortunately, local
[00:23:49.430]landmarking doesn't necessarily
[00:23:51.060]get you an automatic sort of,
[00:23:52.800]you know,
[00:23:52.800]into the federal tax credit for
[00:23:54.510]the other two programs.
[00:23:55.520]It does.
[00:23:57.500]We do have competitive grant
[00:23:59.950]funding available
[00:24:01.420]for preservation projects that's
[00:24:03.720]only available to CLGs.
[00:24:06.420]This,
[00:24:08.940]funding cannot be used for
[00:24:12.080]rehabilitation,
[00:24:13.120]remodeling or reconstructing
[00:24:14.710]historic properties.
[00:24:16.040]We get that question a lot,
[00:24:17.540]but it's great for public
[00:24:20.250]education opportunities,
[00:24:21.840]for your commission members,
[00:24:23.340]for your staff members, for the
[00:24:24.960]public,
[00:24:25.720]attending trainings, hosting
[00:24:27.400]trainings.
[00:24:28.300]One real popular project is
[00:24:31.970]websites,
[00:24:32.780]getting information on your
[00:24:34.740]website,
[00:24:35.200]any sort of story maps that you
[00:24:37.790]may want to do online,
[00:24:38.700]or walking tours, whether that
[00:24:42.050]would be, you know,
[00:24:43.040]like a component online or, you
[00:24:45.730]know,
[00:24:45.880]brochures, you know, printing
[00:24:47.540]of those, you know,
[00:24:48.220]for a walking tour, there's
[00:24:49.940]lesson plans for schools,
[00:24:53.100]for different classes.
[00:24:54.680]Yeah, another benefit, like I
[00:24:58.070]said,
[00:24:58.280]training for staff and
[00:24:59.380]commissioners and opportunities,
[00:25:01.100]and you, these, you know,
[00:25:02.660]grant funding can use for any
[00:25:04.410]of those,
[00:25:05.000]the, any training you may do.
[00:25:08.380]It could be an online training.
[00:25:09.920]We can pay to send you to
[00:25:11.190]conferences,
[00:25:11.900]which I know a lot of
[00:25:12.580]conferences are virtual right
[00:25:13.750]now,
[00:25:14.000]but you know, we can help pay
[00:25:15.630]if there's a registration fee
[00:25:16.880]for a virtual conference.
[00:25:18.820]We can help do that.
[00:25:20.440]Once conferences are being held
[00:25:22.190]back in person,
[00:25:23.000]we can pay your registration
[00:25:24.850]fee,
[00:25:25.260]your travel costs to go to
[00:25:28.970]these trainings.
[00:25:30.120]The grants are on a 60/40 match
[00:25:33.470]basis.
[00:25:34.320]So we would provide 60% of the
[00:25:36.870]cost.
[00:25:37.560]You would provide 40%,
[00:25:39.240]but your match can be
[00:25:40.280]completely in-kind.
[00:25:41.560]It doesn't have to be a cash
[00:25:42.700]match.
[00:25:43.020]And we don't rate our,
[00:25:45.060]the grant applications any
[00:25:46.460]differently
[00:25:47.160]if it's a cash match or an in-kind
[00:25:49.760]match.
[00:25:50.640]And it's also a way to promote
[00:25:52.370]historic resources
[00:25:53.680]and increase your community
[00:25:55.220]pride and identity
[00:25:56.520]with your historic resources.
[00:25:58.900]Nobody else in the world has
[00:26:01.180]the same historic resources
[00:26:02.660]that you do.
[00:26:03.500]So it's nice to help promote
[00:26:04.990]them.
[00:26:07.240]And here is my contact
[00:26:08.720]information,
[00:26:09.780]my email address and my phone
[00:26:11.960]number.
[00:26:12.840]And like Ryan, like I just gave
[00:26:14.390]you a lot of information
[00:26:15.720]and in just a couple of minutes,
[00:26:18.600]I just hit kind of the
[00:26:19.710]highlight.
[00:26:20.320]So if you are interested in
[00:26:22.280]learning more about this
[00:26:24.620]program,
[00:26:25.160]feel free to contact me, but
[00:26:26.580]otherwise, yeah,
[00:26:27.160]I can answer questions right
[00:26:28.360]now too if anybody has any.
[00:26:37.240]Anybody thinking about the CLG
[00:26:41.440]program in this region?
[00:26:42.240]- As Kelly said, Neely's been
[00:26:50.980]working with her
[00:26:51.760]for a while now and we've seen
[00:26:55.430]the benefits
[00:26:56.460]and the partnership with both
[00:26:58.140]Ryan and Kelly at the state.
[00:27:00.280]They've made things very easy
[00:27:02.260]and we look forward to
[00:27:03.820]completing.
[00:27:04.980]We have the ordinance in place.
[00:27:06.920]We're just finding members of
[00:27:10.800]the commission at this point.
[00:27:11.920]So we're being selective,
[00:27:16.400]but I'd rather have the right
[00:27:17.870]team from the beginning.
[00:27:19.000]- Lauren, how long has that
[00:27:21.920]process taken you?
[00:27:24.040]- Well, we had a flood hit and
[00:27:29.060]then we had COVID hit.
[00:27:30.240]So it's taken a little bit
[00:27:31.470]longer than we anticipated.
[00:27:33.680]So we had three of the five
[00:27:36.600]members
[00:27:36.600]at one point and then one of
[00:27:39.850]them decided
[00:27:41.140]to be our super new
[00:27:42.140]superintendent for the city.
[00:27:43.860]And we're 40% there in a year
[00:27:48.860]and a half,
[00:27:48.860]but it's been a very
[00:27:51.360]challenging time
[00:27:53.780]to find board members and have
[00:27:56.230]people come out
[00:27:57.320]and meet with you and sit down
[00:27:59.240]and talk about history
[00:28:01.160]and the preservation of our
[00:28:02.870]community.
[00:28:06.120]- Right, yeah and I tell, I get
[00:28:08.130]that question
[00:28:09.140]from when I speak in different
[00:28:10.530]communities,
[00:28:11.200]how long does the process take?
[00:28:13.160]And really that's kind of up to
[00:28:15.030]the community.
[00:28:15.980]Like, and I don't want
[00:28:17.240]communities to ever just like
[00:28:18.820]rush
[00:28:19.100]through something and then have
[00:28:21.040]no idea
[00:28:21.660]what they signed up for once
[00:28:23.820]they get certified
[00:28:24.800]and everything, all that
[00:28:26.560]paperwork has been filed
[00:28:28.220]and you are officially a CLG.
[00:28:30.140]I want you to know what the
[00:28:31.820]program is
[00:28:32.600]and what you can do with the
[00:28:34.580]program.
[00:28:36.120]So it just depends, you know,
[00:28:37.880]how long does it take to pass
[00:28:39.640]an ordinance in your community?
[00:28:42.080]How long do you think it'll
[00:28:43.760]take
[00:28:43.760]to establish your commission
[00:28:45.500]members?
[00:28:46.220]There isn't like Ryan's
[00:28:47.600]programs all have applications.
[00:28:49.860]The CLG program doesn't have an
[00:28:51.750]actual application.
[00:28:53.280]We just have certain documents
[00:28:54.760]you need to send to our office.
[00:28:56.240]So how long does it take, you
[00:28:57.440]know,
[00:28:57.520]commission member resumes?
[00:28:58.760]How long is it going to take
[00:28:59.620]you to get that put together?
[00:29:01.320]Once we receive it, we have, I
[00:29:03.310]think,
[00:29:03.480]30 days to review it in our
[00:29:05.160]office.
[00:29:05.640]And then we send it off to the
[00:29:06.980]National Park Service.
[00:29:08.260]And I think they have 30 days
[00:29:09.730]to review it too.
[00:29:10.240]It might be 45, but so that in
[00:29:12.460]itself, you know,
[00:29:13.380]they're building a couple of
[00:29:14.580]months there,
[00:29:15.140]but a lot of it is really just
[00:29:16.770]up to you
[00:29:17.340]and how quickly you want to
[00:29:19.150]move forward.
[00:29:20.120]- And this is Chelsea in Box
[00:29:25.110]Butte County.
[00:29:26.940]So David Calise had passed
[00:29:28.660]through Alliance.
[00:29:29.900]So Amity that's also on,
[00:29:32.400]we met with our museum director
[00:29:34.060]and him to talk about it.
[00:29:35.160]For Alliance and then I then
[00:29:37.230]took it onto Hemmingford.
[00:29:39.160]So Joni is in Hemmingford and
[00:29:41.900]on our CRA
[00:29:42.780]that's Kelly has presented to
[00:29:45.030]in the past.
[00:29:46.120]So conversations have been
[00:29:48.960]started,
[00:29:49.860]but we haven't committed yet.
[00:29:52.020]- And I wanted to ask Lauren,
[00:29:57.980]when you started this process,
[00:30:00.020]what was your overall goal?
[00:30:02.500]Why did you want to become a
[00:30:03.960]part of this for yourself?
[00:30:04.680]Why did you want to do this for
[00:30:05.660]your community?
[00:30:06.380]- We had a historic building in
[00:30:10.200]our downtown
[00:30:11.140]that was threatened to be just
[00:30:13.390]bulldozed
[00:30:14.220]if we didn't purchase it for an
[00:30:16.730]exorbitant amount.
[00:30:18.400]And that was kind of the, I
[00:30:20.940]guess the turning point
[00:30:23.400]where we didn't want to see
[00:30:25.380]some of the most notable
[00:30:27.420]buildings in town just demolished
[00:30:29.840]at a whim and a threat.
[00:30:31.860]And that's where we made the
[00:30:33.570]decision.
[00:30:34.200]That, okay, we have a lot of
[00:30:37.400]historic properties in town
[00:30:39.200]that tells us the story of our
[00:30:41.580]community.
[00:30:42.500]And if we're not maintaining
[00:30:44.660]those
[00:30:45.120]or trying to maintain them,
[00:30:47.640]we're losing a lot of our
[00:30:48.840]history.
[00:30:49.480]- Thank you for that.
[00:30:53.780]I appreciate that.
[00:30:55.420]I guess that was one of the
[00:30:56.940]things that, you know,
[00:30:58.000]we talked about after Kelly was
[00:30:59.670]out is determining why,
[00:31:03.060]you know, why do we want to,
[00:31:04.800]you know,
[00:31:05.180]even try to establish this?
[00:31:07.420]And so I was just curious if
[00:31:08.810]you had a specific project,
[00:31:10.340]which it sounds like exactly
[00:31:12.050]that was your reason.
[00:31:13.520]So thank you for explaining
[00:31:15.050]that.
[00:31:15.440]- You are so welcome.
[00:31:17.880]But also if it wasn't us who
[00:31:19.820]would stand up and do it.
[00:31:21.460]So that's where we went with it.
[00:31:23.360]- So I'm also wondering about
[00:31:31.430]the range of,
[00:31:33.060]or the scope that the ordinance
[00:31:35.950]might bring to bear.
[00:31:38.060]You talked about, maybe it's
[00:31:39.440]just a review for 30 days
[00:31:40.820]of buildings that might be bulldozed
[00:31:42.400]or, you know,
[00:31:43.120]what might be the bigger range
[00:31:45.430]of those kinds of actions
[00:31:47.440]that a community or
[00:31:48.710]organization might like to have
[00:31:50.880]at their,
[00:31:52.220]in their ordinance?
[00:31:54.240]- Right.
[00:31:55.180]Ordinances vary and they vary
[00:31:57.780]across the country.
[00:31:59.840]There are ordinances I know
[00:32:02.370]that actually review interiors
[00:32:04.760]of certain buildings, not that
[00:32:06.530]they review all interiors,
[00:32:08.680]but like we, I know the,
[00:32:13.520]someone who used to work for
[00:32:14.900]New York City
[00:32:15.820]on their landmarks on
[00:32:17.460]preservation commission,
[00:32:18.940]and they reviewed the interior
[00:32:21.320]of like Grand Central Station,
[00:32:22.900]New York Public Library,
[00:32:24.760]but they didn't review the
[00:32:26.070]interiors
[00:32:26.640]of every single building that
[00:32:28.020]was landmarked in New York.
[00:32:28.700]- Right.
[00:32:29.840]- In New York City.
[00:32:30.680]So, I mean, you can get, you
[00:32:31.690]know, that specific too,
[00:32:33.600]but I, you know, it's up to you
[00:32:36.510]what you really, you know,
[00:32:38.360]kind of what you want to review.
[00:32:39.740]And if, like in the case of
[00:32:40.980]demolition,
[00:32:41.700]do you want to have the ability
[00:32:44.370]to stop demolition?
[00:32:46.080]And, or do you want to just be
[00:32:49.030]able to maybe delay it
[00:32:51.080]for a while, have a
[00:32:52.720]conversation?
[00:32:53.780]And, you know, each community
[00:32:56.490]has its own personality.
[00:32:58.240]And so how we,
[00:32:59.480]you know, how we think or
[00:33:01.050]strong an ordinance is really,
[00:33:01.900]you know, kind of up to you.
[00:33:03.000]And some communities, you know,
[00:33:05.200]even reviewing exterior changes
[00:33:08.850]to a building that,
[00:33:09.660]you know, would you allow, you
[00:33:11.560]know, if you,
[00:33:12.620]if your commercial area is
[00:33:15.590]basically one-story buildings,
[00:33:17.620]maybe you have a two-story
[00:33:19.820]building,
[00:33:20.660]but basically one story,
[00:33:21.920]would you be okay with a huge
[00:33:23.580]three-story building
[00:33:25.160]being put right smack dab in
[00:33:26.770]the middle of your downtown?
[00:33:29.480]And, you know, some communities,
[00:33:30.320]they would be fine with that.
[00:33:31.140]Other ones would say no,
[00:33:31.980]that would completely destroy
[00:33:32.980]the character of our downtown.
[00:33:34.620]So it's really, you know, in
[00:33:36.180]establishing your ordinance,
[00:33:37.480]it kind of lets you talk about
[00:33:39.220]those sorts of things.
[00:33:40.840]So I don't have an exact answer
[00:33:42.340]for you,
[00:33:42.760]but they do range from, like I
[00:33:44.570]said, with just, you know,
[00:33:45.940]maybe doing a demolition delay,
[00:33:48.260]exterior changes that are
[00:33:52.390]reviewed in some communities
[00:33:54.480]could be replacement siding,
[00:33:58.640]you know, if it's historic,
[00:33:59.480]a wood siding, would you allow
[00:34:01.660]vinyl siding?
[00:34:02.920]What windows would you allow to
[00:34:05.230]be replaced?
[00:34:06.160]Solar panels on roofs,
[00:34:08.960]additions.
[00:34:10.080]Maybe you allow additions in
[00:34:12.380]the rear of a building
[00:34:13.400]that are set back,
[00:34:14.240]but you don't allow additions
[00:34:16.100]that you can really see from
[00:34:17.390]the street.
[00:34:18.100]Some communities regulate paint
[00:34:22.740]colors,
[00:34:24.080]but that's rare, but it does
[00:34:27.020]happen.
[00:34:28.420]And you can do, you know, if
[00:34:29.240]you have, you know,
[00:34:29.240]you can do specific,
[00:34:30.300]like when you're locally
[00:34:31.770]landmarking districts
[00:34:34.680]or certain buildings,
[00:34:35.680]you can set some basic design
[00:34:38.240]guidelines.
[00:34:39.340]Like, you know, if you're in a
[00:34:40.900]community
[00:34:41.400]with multiple sort of
[00:34:42.580]residential areas,
[00:34:43.820]the different residential areas
[00:34:45.480]may have a different history to
[00:34:47.680]them.
[00:34:47.940]So maybe one area, there's a
[00:34:49.920]bunch of Queen Anne's,
[00:34:50.780]but now another area,
[00:34:52.640]now you're getting into more
[00:34:53.750]mid-century modern,
[00:34:54.680]they're going to look different.
[00:34:56.300]So you'd have slightly
[00:34:57.730]different,
[00:34:59.000]you know, guidelines that you
[00:35:00.460]would follow
[00:35:00.980]because the type of
[00:35:01.820]architecture is different.
[00:35:03.240]- Well, I certainly get that
[00:35:12.640]that's,
[00:35:12.980]this is an engagement process
[00:35:14.980]with your community
[00:35:16.820]and, you know, thinking thoughtfully
[00:35:19.340]about, you know,
[00:35:20.200]who you are and what you want
[00:35:21.760]to look like in the future.
[00:35:22.760]That's awesome.
[00:35:28.760]- Other questions for Kelli?
[00:35:31.660]- I'm certainly, I'm sure my
[00:35:35.760]slides too,
[00:35:36.280]I'll add a little bit more,
[00:35:37.180]like put the actual, the CLGs
[00:35:38.740]in Nebraska,
[00:35:39.420]so you'd have a list of those.
[00:35:40.640]I forgot to include that.
[00:35:43.160]- And I believe we were
[00:35:45.500]recording
[00:35:46.680]and I see it's recording again
[00:35:48.190]now.
[00:35:48.600]So I think it was also.
[00:35:51.280]- Sorry, I got bumped off there
[00:35:53.180]and we've got it up till the
[00:35:54.640]last two or three minutes.
[00:35:56.340]- Okay.
[00:35:58.760]- That was just us trying to
[00:36:01.020]figure out what to do
[00:36:01.700]when you were gone, Jennie.
[00:36:02.920]So I don't think we need that
[00:36:05.140]recorded.
[00:36:06.280]- I have my IT guy in the
[00:36:08.160]background.
[00:36:09.280]I made him promise not to shut
[00:36:10.620]me off until after 11.
[00:36:12.240]- Well, Jennie, we were just
[00:36:14.930]thanking Ryan and Kelli
[00:36:16.180]for sharing and we'll make sure
[00:36:17.460]we share
[00:36:17.900]their recorded presentation and
[00:36:19.440]files with the group
[00:36:20.800]in case other communities are
[00:36:21.750]interested in the process.
[00:36:23.040]Anything else that we need to
[00:36:25.040]add before we close?
[00:36:26.620]- I'm just wondering if Lee has
[00:36:28.070]any,
[00:36:28.520]any advice or common issues or
[00:36:32.590]anything like that?
[00:36:33.520]- Well, with the Nebraska
[00:36:37.980]Department of Revenue,
[00:36:39.860]what we do is review the
[00:36:42.540]expenditures
[00:36:44.320]after History Nebraska and the
[00:36:47.260]SHPO's office
[00:36:47.940]has approved the work that's
[00:36:50.910]been completed.
[00:36:52.940]We have a lot of information
[00:36:55.620]on the Department of Revenue's
[00:36:57.700]website.
[00:36:58.280]We have a lot of information
[00:36:59.280]for the Nebraska
[00:37:01.680]Historic Tax Credit and the
[00:37:03.280]part that we work with
[00:37:04.980]on approving the expenditures,
[00:37:07.560]the eligible expenditures.
[00:37:09.460]You want to make sure that all
[00:37:13.300]your expenditures
[00:37:14.460]meet the federal standards.
[00:37:17.340]You know, what we do is issue
[00:37:21.040]the credits
[00:37:21.640]after the projects are
[00:37:22.870]completed and we issue
[00:37:23.780]certificates
[00:37:24.740]that can be used against your
[00:37:28.040]income tax liability.
[00:37:28.040]So we have a lot of information
[00:37:30.040]on that.
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[00:37:32.070]how to do that.
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