Web Developer Network Monthly Meeting, May 2025

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The monthly meeting of the UNL Web Developer Network for May 2025

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[00:00:00.880]You're on candid camera.
[00:00:02.220]And we have kind of the usual agenda.
[00:00:08.220]At least the big items are the same,
[00:00:13.260]but the details always change from month to month.
[00:00:17.800]So Gov Board, Slacktivity, Web Audit, Analytics, CMS,
[00:00:25.700]Public Info Apps, Framework, and then Successes
[00:00:30.780]and Open Forum and Help Session.
[00:00:32.620]So let's kick things off with the Shared Governance Board update,
[00:00:38.520]and I'll let someone else talk about that.
[00:00:43.520]Yeah, I'm not sure there was much.
[00:00:52.560]We do have the ADA Title II.
[00:00:54.780]We do have the ADA Title II deadline coming April 24, 2026.
[00:01:01.120]We've talked separately about the temporary transition pages deadlines.
[00:01:06.160]And Eric and I were just discussing an intriguing option
[00:01:13.940]that maybe we can talk about later,
[00:01:17.520]but maybe just want to touch on now,
[00:01:20.660]and that is that,
[00:01:24.660]that perhaps we could keep temporary,
[00:01:27.820]we could put on January, was it 5th?
[00:01:32.020]Put temporary transition pages in a permanently unpublished mode
[00:01:38.320]so that they would still appear in your admin area
[00:01:42.940]and you could still reproduce the page
[00:01:47.020]because it would still be in your admin area.
[00:01:49.660]I think we talked previously about just deleting them as of that date.
[00:01:54.100]But Eric just mentioned that option.
[00:01:57.460]That's something we'll want to talk about in the governance board
[00:02:00.320]and really think through.
[00:02:01.620]But I think that's really interesting, Eric.
[00:02:04.480]What else do we have?
[00:02:10.640]We had any subdomain requests that were notable here?
[00:02:16.740]Just the one for budget.
[00:02:22.880]Okay.
[00:02:24.080]Oh, yeah, budget process.
[00:02:25.060]My mistake, the slide should have read subdomain request, singular.
[00:02:31.800]Okay.
[00:02:33.240]All right.
[00:02:34.940]Yeah, you can tell we're winding down into summer.
[00:02:37.780]You have much less new subdomains at this point.
[00:02:42.840]So, all right.
[00:02:46.000]We got some selectivity.
[00:02:50.120]Okay.
[00:02:50.220]So, web form editing permissions.
[00:03:01.240]We just had a question.
[00:03:02.480]Does someone have to have site admin access to edit a web form instead of editor?
[00:03:06.640]An editor should be able to edit a web form.
[00:03:09.060]Speaking of which, web forms, thanks to everybody who showed up for the web form training this morning.
[00:03:14.200]I'm going to be going through the captions here.
[00:03:19.280]And after this, I'm going to be going through the captions.
[00:03:20.100]And after this meeting, and then I'll put that on the UNL CMS how-to channel on MediaHub.
[00:03:25.480]Also be doing a little cut-up, do some shorter videos about how to do some more specific things in web forms in UNL CMS.
[00:03:34.800]That is something I wondered.
[00:03:38.140]Are there any advantages to other web form systems that people are running like JotForm or...
[00:03:48.800]I know, you know, that Qualtrics has plenty of other statistical analysis.
[00:03:55.960]It does, but for normal web forms, are there any features that may be missing that we should be exploring?
[00:04:07.520]Anybody aware of anything?
[00:04:12.380]If not, anyway.
[00:04:17.120]Well, that'll be...
[00:04:18.120]That'll be an open conversation.
[00:04:20.000]All right.
[00:04:26.200]So somebody had a question.
[00:04:28.260]I know that we added some, like a flag in WebAudit recently.
[00:04:35.960]So if people are using, if they have the term registered student organization, it will now throw a flag in WebAudit.
[00:04:47.960]WebAudit.
[00:04:48.920]And that is because that is not the correct term.
[00:04:51.900]It is recognized.
[00:04:54.300]Sorry.
[00:04:56.320]It throws a flag for registered student organization.
[00:05:00.420]And the correct term is recognized student organization.
[00:05:04.300]I think to those people that are using registered, I think that was changed five years ago or something.
[00:05:12.540]Somewhere along in there.
[00:05:14.220]But it used to be registered student organizations.
[00:05:16.940]Betsy had a question in the chat.
[00:05:24.260]Is there going to be another training on editing web forms?
[00:05:26.860]Probably not.
[00:05:28.700]We put this out there and had it out there for two months and had, I think, 20 people signed up and then 14 people came.
[00:05:36.820]So I don't know if, I guess if there's another groundswell of people who are interested.
[00:05:42.740]But we'll probably just do some more specific things.
[00:05:46.820]Like videos for the documentation on the UNL CMS documentation website.
[00:05:53.960]Probably eight to 10 things, you know, how to send emails, how to limit access to logged
[00:06:00.800]in users, how to do a customized confirmation message, those sorts of things are probably
[00:06:06.000]what we'll cover.
[00:06:06.600]So I don't know that we'll do another training.
[00:06:08.420]Just a reminder, when you're requesting help in Slack, always include a link to the pages
[00:06:24.280]that you need help troubleshooting.
[00:06:26.040]I think there's probably a few questions we need to answer in there that came in earlier
[00:06:30.420]today.
[00:06:30.820]So we've all been kind of busy prepping for the meeting, but hopefully we can all hop
[00:06:36.080]in there and answer a few more of those questions.
[00:06:38.320]So metrics, I already know things are down.
[00:06:48.660]And yet up.
[00:06:52.740]Yeah.
[00:06:54.080]Yeah.
[00:06:55.640]Overall, flat?
[00:06:57.840]I think, yeah.
[00:07:02.500]I don't know.
[00:07:04.740]I thought these all would start going up eventually, but...
[00:07:08.260]We'll see.
[00:07:08.960]Next up, we have some analytics updates from Tommy.
[00:07:17.500]Talk about segments on Matomo.
[00:07:24.620]So let you see a subset of that, of all the data on Matomo.
[00:07:30.560]So I think GA used to do this.
[00:07:33.960]Now it's not as easy of a thing to do anymore.
[00:07:37.000]Yeah.
[00:07:37.960]Kind of like GA views.
[00:07:40.540]Yeah.
[00:07:43.580]And when I was first using Matomo,
[00:07:45.860]it was a little tricky to figure out where that was.
[00:07:48.580]So I'll do a little demo of doing it.
[00:07:51.580]But yeah, here's a little picture of it.
[00:07:52.960]Yeah, that'd be good.
[00:07:57.240]I can hear you, Ryan.
[00:07:58.040]Let's see here.
[00:08:00.680]Can everyone see
[00:08:07.660]my Matomo screen?
[00:08:09.420]So this is just the dashboard
[00:08:13.780]of Matomo. So once you
[00:08:15.000]go to webanalytics.unl.edu
[00:08:18.020]and you log in,
[00:08:19.680]this is what you'll get put onto.
[00:08:21.700]And so you can see up here, it says all
[00:08:25.340]visits. That's the thing we'll be
[00:08:27.660]changing. This is where that segments
[00:08:29.620]will come into play. So you can
[00:08:31.600]obviously change the date range of
[00:08:33.620]when you want data from, but
[00:08:35.680]this will let you
[00:08:37.360]filter out specific
[00:08:39.060]pieces of data. So
[00:08:41.300]in here, we have a couple things
[00:08:43.500]from when I was
[00:08:45.700]testing things out. And so these
[00:08:47.700]are kind of pre-built
[00:08:49.960]segments, but
[00:08:51.360]we'll use them as a little demo.
[00:08:53.200]So you can see here's one where it's
[00:08:55.780]the engineering site. So
[00:08:57.620]we're looking for page URLs, which
[00:08:59.820]start with this engineering.unl.edu.
[00:09:01.800]So pretty self-explanatory.
[00:09:04.140]This will just filter out all the
[00:09:07.060]engineering pages from the data and
[00:09:08.860]just show us data about that.
[00:09:10.760]And so if we go back
[00:09:13.020]and we click on this one,
[00:09:14.980]it says engineering
[00:09:16.960]site is my segment.
[00:09:18.360]And we'll let the data all
[00:09:20.840]fill up here.
[00:09:22.220]It's a little slow,
[00:09:26.780]so sorry
[00:09:29.120]about that, but
[00:09:30.160]this will show us data about relating
[00:09:33.100]to just that engineering site. So any
[00:09:35.040]pages with the URL that
[00:09:36.760]start with that
[00:09:38.700]engineering.unl.edu ...
[00:09:39.400]So then once this all
[00:09:43.140]loads up, you'll be able to see all the data
[00:09:44.820]related to just that.
[00:09:45.860]And there is one
[00:09:49.100]caveat, so when you make a new
[00:09:50.880]segment, so if
[00:09:52.980]we want to do one for like the WDN site,
[00:09:54.840]let this
[00:09:57.220]load up.
[00:09:57.920]So you know, there's lots of stuff in here,
[00:10:02.960]so if we wanted to have something about like
[00:10:04.460]location, like based on where
[00:10:06.460]the location of that visitor is from, we could do
[00:10:08.480]something like that too.
[00:10:09.460]Lots of data in here where you could
[00:10:12.400]go through and figure out where
[00:10:14.020]you want to
[00:10:16.520]filter things from.
[00:10:17.680]So if I go here,
[00:10:20.360]I do
[00:10:20.860]page URL starts with
[00:10:24.640]WDN.unl.edu.
[00:10:27.640]So if I were to make a new segment,
[00:10:31.760]one thing we have to caveat is
[00:10:34.360]that this won't go
[00:10:36.160]through all the historical data
[00:10:37.500]right when you make it.
[00:10:38.880]There has to be a little script
[00:10:40.440]that runs in the background
[00:10:41.440]that'll go through
[00:10:43.340]all the historical data.
[00:10:44.360]So this will get all the
[00:10:45.840]real-time data as it comes in
[00:10:48.420]from right now.
[00:10:49.440]But at midnight,
[00:10:51.960]it'll go through and run that script
[00:10:53.260]and it'll go through and compile.
[00:10:54.480]It'll go through all the historical data
[00:10:56.000]we have and figure out
[00:10:57.680]if it's in that
[00:10:58.360]in the segment or not.
[00:11:00.520]So right now you can kind of see
[00:11:01.880]it's getting a little bit of stuff,
[00:11:03.080]but it's not getting everything.
[00:11:04.240]So once it'll
[00:11:05.860]runs through that,
[00:11:06.980]it'll get all that.
[00:11:07.960]So I typically say,
[00:11:10.040]you know, wait 24 hours
[00:11:12.180]or 48 hours.
[00:11:13.140]It'll go through and
[00:11:13.960]get all that data compiled
[00:11:15.580]and you'll get a better
[00:11:16.440]representation of the actual
[00:11:18.220]data that it'll
[00:11:21.280]be for this segment.
[00:11:23.320]So that's the one little caveat.
[00:11:25.580]And usually there's
[00:11:26.880]a little message up here.
[00:11:27.880]I made this earlier today,
[00:11:29.220]so I'm sure that
[00:11:30.100]that's messing with things
[00:11:31.680]a little bit right now.
[00:11:32.480]But
[00:11:32.760]when you make a new one,
[00:11:35.080]it'll say,
[00:11:35.560]up here,
[00:11:35.880]it'll be like,
[00:11:36.320]hey,
[00:11:36.520]this isn't getting
[00:11:37.140]all the data.
[00:11:37.820]You have to run a report.
[00:11:39.260]So that's what
[00:11:40.960]that message means.
[00:11:42.020]It means that
[00:11:42.660]you need to
[00:11:43.900]sit for a little bit,
[00:11:45.360]a little bit of baking
[00:11:46.600]in the oven,
[00:11:47.120]if you will,
[00:11:47.680]to get that to finish up.
[00:11:49.100]So yeah,
[00:11:51.680]I'll stop sharing my screen.
[00:11:53.260]So hopefully that
[00:11:56.580]helps out a little bit.
[00:11:57.820]I know going through
[00:11:58.620]all the data on
[00:11:59.620]GA is always
[00:12:02.200]a little bit of a pain
[00:12:02.960]because then you got to
[00:12:03.900]do like the
[00:12:04.840]explore page
[00:12:05.900]and then go through
[00:12:06.680]and get the stuff you want.
[00:12:08.520]And that's not really
[00:12:09.320]that intuitive.
[00:12:10.820]So Matomo has got
[00:12:11.860]a little bit of an easier
[00:12:12.860]interface with that.
[00:12:14.540]And Vicky,
[00:12:22.160]Vicky had a question
[00:12:23.620]in the chat.
[00:12:24.540]Will we all be changing
[00:12:25.620]to Matomo?
[00:12:26.460]I'll try to answer this,
[00:12:28.880]but people can
[00:12:29.580]obviously say no.
[00:12:31.080]We're not
[00:12:32.240]switching everybody
[00:12:33.840]over.
[00:12:34.600]We're kind of
[00:12:35.280]using it to augment
[00:12:36.760]the stats we're getting
[00:12:38.000]from
[00:12:38.520]Google Analytics
[00:12:40.200]right now,
[00:12:40.880]and we'll just kind of
[00:12:41.660]see where it goes.
[00:12:42.540]The distinction
[00:12:46.960]really is that
[00:12:48.080]Matomo is an on-prem.
[00:12:49.700]No data ever
[00:12:51.400]leaves the domain.
[00:12:52.340]So
[00:12:54.340]there are a whole lot
[00:12:55.740]of sites that
[00:12:56.760]don't run
[00:12:57.560]or services
[00:12:58.480]that don't run
[00:12:59.480]Google Analytics
[00:13:00.440]because of that reason
[00:13:02.780]that their
[00:13:03.460]privacy
[00:13:04.360]concerns
[00:13:05.060]and other
[00:13:05.620]other sorts
[00:13:07.520]other security
[00:13:08.700]concerns
[00:13:09.360]around
[00:13:10.460]using GA
[00:13:11.540]on
[00:13:12.080]some
[00:13:12.920]sites
[00:13:13.780]and systems.
[00:13:14.940]So
[00:13:15.600]this is
[00:13:16.820]another layer
[00:13:18.300]of
[00:13:19.120]analytics
[00:13:20.540]that
[00:13:21.260]that
[00:13:23.300]distinctly
[00:13:24.060]does not
[00:13:24.620]leave the domain.
[00:13:25.720]It also has some
[00:13:26.700]features that
[00:13:27.740]GA
[00:13:28.840]doesn't have.
[00:13:29.760]Heat mapping
[00:13:31.820]for instance
[00:13:32.780]has
[00:13:33.940]it does
[00:13:34.780]visuals of
[00:13:35.920]scroll depth.
[00:13:36.940]It has a
[00:13:39.800]screen recording
[00:13:40.820]feature that we
[00:13:41.760]have not
[00:13:42.520]really talked
[00:13:44.700]about how to
[00:13:45.620]how to potentially
[00:13:46.680]make that available.
[00:13:48.180]Just as a
[00:13:52.700]the Venn diagrams
[00:13:54.360]don't
[00:13:55.000]perfectly overlap
[00:13:57.180]with GA
[00:13:58.140]does have some
[00:13:59.120]some
[00:13:59.560]features that are in
[00:14:01.060]in addition to
[00:14:02.140]GA.
[00:14:03.520]And one
[00:14:04.480]one additional
[00:14:05.600]distinction is that
[00:14:07.140]Google Analytics
[00:14:08.700]with their
[00:14:10.120]recent update
[00:14:11.400]to GA4
[00:14:13.240]has limited
[00:14:15.900]the historical data
[00:14:16.960]that they
[00:14:17.500]provide to
[00:14:19.340]users
[00:14:20.020]to 14 months.
[00:14:21.420]So with Matomo
[00:14:22.800]you know
[00:14:24.780]eventually we will be
[00:14:26.100]building
[00:14:26.980]a
[00:14:27.920]history
[00:14:29.360]of analytics
[00:14:30.200]that will span
[00:14:31.600]much greater than
[00:14:32.420]14 months.
[00:14:33.300]And we'll always
[00:14:34.640]be able to retain that.
[00:14:35.740]One thing we'll
[00:14:37.260]we'll note
[00:14:38.460]for right now
[00:14:39.500]we are
[00:14:40.300]exploring
[00:14:42.420]whether or not
[00:14:44.080]the name
[00:14:44.800]of the domain
[00:14:46.520]is causing
[00:14:48.360]causing
[00:14:50.440]data to be
[00:14:51.940]underreported.
[00:14:52.300]That'd be spam
[00:14:56.220]blockers or
[00:14:57.520]that are
[00:14:59.820]preventing
[00:15:00.460]or ad blockers
[00:15:02.040]ad blockers.
[00:15:02.920]Yeah.
[00:15:03.460]That are preventing
[00:15:06.560]potentially
[00:15:07.520]preventing the
[00:15:08.620]JavaScript to fire
[00:15:11.200]from fire
[00:15:13.380]whatever.
[00:15:13.820]So we're
[00:15:15.940]we're looking at
[00:15:16.860]coming up with a
[00:15:18.340]maybe different URL
[00:15:19.540]for
[00:15:19.900]for the actual
[00:15:21.560]JavaScript.
[00:15:23.060]And I
[00:15:28.700]put this slide back
[00:15:30.260]in here just because
[00:15:31.160]I had someone just
[00:15:31.980]recently ask about
[00:15:32.800]them.
[00:15:32.900]Again, so
[00:15:33.920]Google Looker
[00:15:34.820]Studio reports.
[00:15:35.640]If you're interested
[00:15:36.660]in
[00:15:37.060]having a
[00:15:39.300]Google Analytics
[00:15:40.480]dashboard created
[00:15:42.840]for your site,
[00:15:43.540]get in touch with me
[00:15:45.380]and I can easily
[00:15:46.400]create one of those
[00:15:47.420]for you.
[00:15:47.800]Moving on to
[00:15:58.000]Eric and Saren.
[00:15:58.880]Sorry, I was typing
[00:16:04.380]there in the chat.
[00:16:05.260]This Wednesday's
[00:16:07.540]release, that's
[00:16:08.320]tomorrow, so
[00:16:09.240]we're going to
[00:16:10.360]start moving to a
[00:16:11.280]more regular release
[00:16:12.560]schedule that will
[00:16:13.580]typically be, not
[00:16:14.940]typically, it will be
[00:16:15.940]unless,
[00:16:16.560]I guess, unless
[00:16:18.580]Christmas happens
[00:16:19.560]and things like that.
[00:16:20.640]The second and
[00:16:21.900]fourth Wednesdays
[00:16:22.700]of the month, so
[00:16:23.640]every week, every
[00:16:24.960]month at this
[00:16:25.900]meeting, we should
[00:16:26.540]have some
[00:16:27.160]updates and a
[00:16:28.800]discussion.
[00:16:28.860]We need to find
[00:16:29.220]time when updates
[00:16:30.840]are going to
[00:16:31.100]happen.
[00:16:31.420]That will be at
[00:16:31.900]the end of the
[00:16:32.340]day on Wednesday.
[00:16:33.400]So that's going to
[00:16:34.120]be tomorrow.
[00:16:34.640]So the update
[00:16:36.240]that's going to
[00:16:36.600]roll out tomorrow
[00:16:37.240]will be the final
[00:16:38.600]part of that
[00:16:39.540]performance thing
[00:16:40.440]that we keep
[00:16:41.060]touching on of
[00:16:42.120]making sure we're
[00:16:43.980]clearing out
[00:16:44.620]varnish on all
[00:16:45.400]sites.
[00:16:45.840]And it's been a
[00:16:46.520]multi-step thing
[00:16:47.440]of getting that
[00:16:48.660]in place and
[00:16:49.460]getting it
[00:16:49.860]configured correctly.
[00:16:50.740]But making sure
[00:16:52.180]the anonymous
[00:16:53.720]user cache gets
[00:16:55.260]cleared when
[00:16:55.880]pages are saved
[00:16:57.000]so that
[00:16:58.540]obviously when
[00:17:00.260]you're logged in
[00:17:00.780]you see the
[00:17:01.260]updates but
[00:17:01.780]making sure that
[00:17:02.820]an anonymous
[00:17:03.840]user isn't
[00:17:04.540]getting a
[00:17:05.320]cached copy of
[00:17:06.620]the page
[00:17:07.260]anymore.
[00:17:08.200]So that's the
[00:17:09.540]thing that we'll
[00:17:10.560]be deploying
[00:17:11.360]tomorrow and
[00:17:12.300]in the coming
[00:17:13.500]months
[00:17:14.580]there'll be
[00:17:16.420]a variety of
[00:17:18.220]things and
[00:17:19.160]there'll be
[00:17:20.120]this rolling
[00:17:21.680]regular release
[00:17:22.480]schedule.
[00:17:22.940]I'm going to
[00:17:24.440]advance Ryan.
[00:17:25.320]I think the
[00:17:27.300]things that
[00:17:27.720]have
[00:17:28.220]happened in
[00:17:29.140]the last
[00:17:29.600]month,
[00:17:30.360]some of
[00:17:32.520]these I
[00:17:32.820]think last
[00:17:33.820]month were
[00:17:34.220]touched on
[00:17:34.900]as pending
[00:17:36.220]but things
[00:17:36.860]that are
[00:17:37.120]live of
[00:17:37.860]there's
[00:17:39.520]resolution
[00:17:41.660]to an
[00:17:42.720]overlapping
[00:17:43.260]components
[00:17:44.140]problem in
[00:17:45.100]layout builder
[00:17:45.880]since cards
[00:17:47.380]are now
[00:17:47.680]100%
[00:17:48.460]tall.
[00:17:49.540]Some
[00:17:50.400]components
[00:17:52.000]were
[00:17:52.220]overlapping.
[00:17:52.840]As that
[00:17:54.820]says, I
[00:17:55.160]think we
[00:17:55.400]still recommend
[00:17:55.900]keeping card
[00:17:56.980]components in
[00:17:57.540]the same
[00:17:57.900]section.
[00:17:58.420]Rather than
[00:17:59.580]having one
[00:18:00.520]big section
[00:18:01.100]and throwing
[00:18:02.040]multiple rows
[00:18:03.260]of things in
[00:18:04.120]it, if the
[00:18:05.060]cards are in
[00:18:05.660]their own
[00:18:06.200]row, that
[00:18:07.880]probably works
[00:18:08.380]better and
[00:18:09.020]that would
[00:18:09.620]give you
[00:18:09.860]better options
[00:18:10.540]in the future
[00:18:11.080]for adding
[00:18:11.660]background colors
[00:18:13.040]and containers
[00:18:13.760]and stuff like
[00:18:14.380]that.
[00:18:14.720]Next one,
[00:18:16.900]Ryan.
[00:18:17.260]The issue
[00:18:19.200]of some
[00:18:20.520]of the
[00:18:20.740]linking issues
[00:18:21.620]inside the
[00:18:22.660]WYSIWYG
[00:18:23.160]editor should
[00:18:23.920]be resolved
[00:18:24.680]where there
[00:18:26.640]was
[00:18:26.880]some
[00:18:28.460]problem
[00:18:29.560]doing
[00:18:30.020]linking.
[00:18:30.680]I think
[00:18:31.540]the best
[00:18:31.880]way still
[00:18:32.280]to do
[00:18:32.680]that is
[00:18:33.800]when linking
[00:18:34.980]to a
[00:18:35.400]page on
[00:18:36.080]your same
[00:18:36.560]site is
[00:18:37.280]to use
[00:18:37.920]the auto
[00:18:38.560]complete
[00:18:39.080]thing and
[00:18:40.440]selecting
[00:18:41.120]the result
[00:18:43.460]it gives
[00:18:43.840]you rather
[00:18:44.240]than pasting
[00:18:45.540]in a full
[00:18:46.140]address.
[00:18:46.760]That should
[00:18:47.640]still work,
[00:18:48.320]but that
[00:18:49.600]would make
[00:18:50.200]sure that
[00:18:50.620]if your
[00:18:51.100]department
[00:18:52.780]changes names
[00:18:53.740]or anything
[00:18:54.160]like that,
[00:18:54.800]you don't
[00:18:55.240]have your
[00:18:55.860]domain
[00:18:56.680]name
[00:18:57.000]hard-coded
[00:18:57.620]in there.
[00:18:58.080]So you're
[00:18:58.900]still using
[00:18:59.420]that little
[00:18:59.900]auto-complete
[00:19:00.820]link widget
[00:19:01.460]and selecting
[00:19:02.300]an option
[00:19:02.840]would be
[00:19:03.200]the best
[00:19:03.580]thing.
[00:19:03.940]Next,
[00:19:05.800]I think
[00:19:08.020]we've
[00:19:08.320]kept trying
[00:19:09.320]to modify
[00:19:10.340]this over
[00:19:10.960]time.
[00:19:11.360]LinkedIn,
[00:19:11.800]this is
[00:19:12.240]kind of a
[00:19:12.580]minor thing,
[00:19:13.120]but anywhere
[00:19:13.640]you put a
[00:19:14.600]LinkedIn URL
[00:19:15.440]using the
[00:19:17.160]component
[00:19:17.980]either in
[00:19:18.500]the footer
[00:19:19.120]or the
[00:19:19.820]social media
[00:19:20.520]component
[00:19:21.060]in layout
[00:19:21.600]builder.
[00:19:22.020]Problem is
[00:19:23.320]LinkedIn has
[00:19:24.340]a whole ton
[00:19:25.080]of different
[00:19:25.700]types of
[00:19:26.480]pages,
[00:19:27.000]users,
[00:19:27.800]companies,
[00:19:28.600]profiles,
[00:19:29.640]and they
[00:19:30.960]don't have
[00:19:31.380]a consistent
[00:19:32.100]like
[00:19:32.720]at
[00:19:34.040]Ryan D
[00:19:35.800]format
[00:19:36.920]like Twitter
[00:19:38.000]and Facebook
[00:19:38.640]and Instagram
[00:19:40.520]all have.
[00:19:41.440]So like
[00:19:42.520]LinkedIn,
[00:19:43.440]the LinkedIn
[00:19:44.820]URLs to
[00:19:46.000]all the
[00:19:46.260]different
[00:19:46.740]department
[00:19:47.760]pages and
[00:19:49.260]pro user
[00:19:49.820]profile pages
[00:19:50.620]is such a
[00:19:51.360]mess.
[00:19:51.680]We've tried
[00:19:53.300]to account
[00:19:53.680]for that and
[00:19:54.180]I think that
[00:19:54.720]should be
[00:19:55.120]better now.
[00:19:56.700]We've
[00:19:57.300]updated some
[00:19:58.020]of the
[00:19:58.160]instructions that
[00:19:59.060]should,
[00:19:59.380]everything that's
[00:20:00.460]currently in
[00:20:00.960]there, this
[00:20:01.460]requires no
[00:20:02.080]action.
[00:20:02.580]Anything that's
[00:20:04.440]currently in
[00:20:04.860]there, I think
[00:20:05.260]we're handling
[00:20:05.800]it, but
[00:20:06.800]we've tried
[00:20:07.440]to improve
[00:20:08.160]how that's
[00:20:10.480]done so
[00:20:10.980]that we
[00:20:11.240]don't have
[00:20:11.620]problems.
[00:20:12.140]So there's
[00:20:13.800]updated little
[00:20:15.100]help text of
[00:20:15.900]what to put
[00:20:16.480]in that
[00:20:16.780]field, but
[00:20:18.060]any current
[00:20:19.380]LinkedIn profile
[00:20:20.980]links you
[00:20:21.900]have like in
[00:20:22.720]the footer
[00:20:23.160]should still
[00:20:23.720]work, but
[00:20:24.940]that's just
[00:20:25.420]an improvement
[00:20:26.080]we resolved
[00:20:30.740]an issue
[00:20:31.800]you know,
[00:20:32.580]this was
[00:20:33.120]something that
[00:20:33.600]was new a
[00:20:34.240]few months
[00:20:34.600]ago of,
[00:20:35.260]you know,
[00:20:35.740]people on
[00:20:37.260]a person
[00:20:38.040]page, the
[00:20:39.380]person who
[00:20:39.940]specified with
[00:20:41.020]the UNL
[00:20:41.680]directory
[00:20:42.140]reference can
[00:20:43.660]edit their
[00:20:44.200]own page.
[00:20:45.080]There was
[00:20:47.440]some bugginess
[00:20:48.240]with it with
[00:20:48.900]the way that
[00:20:49.300]was implemented
[00:20:49.980]that should
[00:20:51.060]be resolved.
[00:20:51.780]That's just
[00:20:53.000]some technical
[00:20:53.520]notes of
[00:20:54.320]the
[00:20:55.880]way we
[00:21:00.800]implemented
[00:21:01.700]it.
[00:21:02.020]There's kind
[00:21:02.860]of a
[00:21:03.120]temporary
[00:21:03.460]role that
[00:21:04.260]happens,
[00:21:04.760]but that
[00:21:06.500]issue should
[00:21:07.020]be resolved.
[00:21:07.520]If you
[00:21:07.820]have any
[00:21:08.160]other
[00:21:08.580]further
[00:21:09.220]issues with
[00:21:11.160]letting a
[00:21:13.220]professor edit
[00:21:14.680]their own
[00:21:15.180]person page,
[00:21:16.060]if there's
[00:21:16.760]any problems
[00:21:17.200]with that,
[00:21:17.540]let us
[00:21:17.900]know.
[00:21:18.140]I do want
[00:21:21.620]to add one
[00:21:22.140]thing that
[00:21:22.960]I've noticed
[00:21:23.520]that in
[00:21:24.840]order for
[00:21:25.260]this to
[00:21:25.760]work, the
[00:21:26.740]person viewing
[00:21:27.400]the person
[00:21:28.000]page should
[00:21:30.600]be logged
[00:21:31.080]in and
[00:21:32.240]they would
[00:21:32.480]have to be
[00:21:33.020]referenced
[00:21:33.580]under the
[00:21:35.060]UNL directory
[00:21:35.860]reference field
[00:21:36.940]in order for
[00:21:37.920]them to be
[00:21:39.270]to like go on the page and see that edit button and once even though sometimes it's just logged
[00:21:45.450]in you might not be logged into the page so i recommend like logging out logging back in again
[00:21:51.170]that should and then refreshing the page and that should work but that's all and that whole
[00:21:58.990]login thing ryan may touch on framework six or something like that coming up but um yeah so once
[00:22:05.030]again being able to edit your own person page means that the person is what's referenced in
[00:22:13.090]that unl directory reference you know in drupal 7 in the old cms it was who the author of the page
[00:22:19.530]was now it's linked to that directory reference um the other big thing that should help prevent
[00:22:28.230]problems is you can now if a page is unpublished in the unpublished state
[00:22:34.510]saving it will keep it in the unpublished state we had a problem where we didn't have
[00:22:41.070]the correct all didn't always have the correct unpublished to unpublished workflow
[00:22:48.130]so sometimes saving an unpublished page inadvertently published it so unpublished
[00:22:54.390]pages should now stay unpublished when they're saved that is live um just some cleanup on
[00:23:02.570]visuals of
[00:23:03.990]trying to adjust when you know components are put on top of each other and side by side
[00:23:09.810]making sure the padding looks good so there's some top and bottom padding removed on stuff
[00:23:15.930]like the accordion that maybe had too much padding on it just some cleanup same thing i
[00:23:22.670]think that related links duplication actually might be a little older where if you're seeing
[00:23:26.810]any duplicate if the related links are shown twice let us know that should be resolved though
[00:23:33.470]keep going ryan so here's things that are in development that are awaiting you know the
[00:23:39.670]deployment next time um this is adding the news item tags so news pages can have can be tagged
[00:23:49.550]and have you know aggregate news pages for similar topics same thing as kind of what
[00:23:58.030]we're doing in layout builder we'll probably show that off next month so um
[00:24:03.190]same thing this was kind of buggy but i think it's come it's getting to the point where it's
[00:24:08.750]close of being able to schedule on pub basically being able to unpublish and publish things at
[00:24:13.990]future dates rather than having to manually hit the button there's some bugginess with the module
[00:24:19.130]that i think's working now so that should probably be next time keep going ryan
[00:24:25.710]yeah we got to get some icons we met again about you know our workflow of how we're going to
[00:24:32.910]support custom icons and we're ready to move forward with getting additional things i know
[00:24:39.430]there's some needs for inr where our initial icon said didn't have some of the stuff like cows and
[00:24:44.750]some of the things we need for um ag and we've gotten the workflow better ironed out on this so
[00:24:54.830]we should have these in shortly and so then that's all stuff that's being that's pretty much
[00:25:02.630]close to ready to go for the deployment in two weeks this is just the stuff that we're working
[00:25:08.630]on a lot of it's various things related to news so both nebraska today and inr news um
[00:25:16.290]it's kind of a big some bug fixes as well as getting support for the inr news site
[00:25:24.770]and it's ongoing and it's coming close here uh the other small thing i think there's been a
[00:25:32.350]couple requests for blue sky as a social media outpost that's a small one that should be coming
[00:25:39.930]soon easy think and then thanks and i think and may a web audit's a continuing process of
[00:25:49.290]keep making sure we're getting that as good as possible i think uh the and might have reported
[00:25:55.830]that on the pill badge um so thanks for that and any reports that you think are stuff you
[00:26:02.070]can't access that you need the system to squash um we keep finding stuff and ironing those out so
[00:26:13.510]that's kind of just an ongoing thing and once again on the wdn site there is basically a lot
[00:26:19.230]of the stuff i covered over and thanks sarin for it's kind of the maintainer of this um the roadmap
[00:26:25.850]so a lot of basically what's been covered is always available to reference on the website of what's
[00:26:31.790]coming up and what is new and that's on the wdn site and here is a reminder bob alluded to this
[00:26:44.310]at the start of the meeting but uh temporary transition pages so those were things where
[00:26:50.850]content you sucked it up from an old site into a temporary transition page so if you go to your
[00:26:57.570]content page content in the toolbar and look for
[00:27:01.510]pages that are the type temporary transition page um june 30th and this is all gone through
[00:27:10.310]gov board and gov boards timeline and i think we've been talking about this for a long time
[00:27:14.530]but there's just another reminder so june 30th of this year is those temporary transition pages
[00:27:20.050]are going to be frozen they'll still be live on the site still be accessible by users they'll
[00:27:26.630]still be there but you won't be able to add them anymore so if any if they require any edits starting
[00:27:31.230]june 30th the way you need to edit it is recreate the page as a layout builder page
[00:27:38.710]and decommission the temporary transition page either delete it or unpublish it and
[00:27:45.590]then carry forward with the builder page into the future and then that next point next january of
[00:27:54.210]26 that's what bob alluded to the temporary transition pages will go away
[00:28:00.950]and the slide says deleted i think god board we need to talk about more what that means whether
[00:28:06.730]we're there they will one what that definitely means is the temporary transition pages will
[00:28:13.670]not be live on the websites anymore they will be unpublished whether they're just unpublished
[00:28:20.450]so that we can still access them to get to the content versus deleting them i think
[00:28:25.090]god board needs to we'll be discussing but the main point being that january of
[00:28:30.670]26 is those pages will be taken offline so still through the end of the year to
[00:28:39.110]move your stuff that's in temporary transition pages to builder pages
[00:28:45.150]and here's the reminder again um
[00:28:51.950]aaron's kind of workshop walkthrough introduction to the cms is the third
[00:29:00.390]tuesday of each month so that's coming up next tuesday if there's anyone in one of your units
[00:29:05.910]that needs the introduction and if you'd rsvp just so we have an idea of how many people
[00:29:14.730]are still interested and going forward it's on the cms site and that's
[00:29:22.550]it for me
[00:29:30.110]tommy newman
[00:29:35.790]public info apps no updates this month nothing oh you you had all the web analytics updates
[00:29:41.890]that was something
[00:29:42.890]nothing nothing update this month we've been working on the next version of the framework
[00:29:50.830]so that's been taking priority i've been getting lots of little things written down though
[00:29:57.290]for for later this summer
[00:29:59.830]so i guess we we will have we are also working on directory that's also coming up for this
[00:30:06.170]summer uh uh directory refresh so that's that's an update of sorts
[00:30:16.470]not nothing to show off yet but
[00:30:17.750]we've mentioned i think we've mentioned it before but uh accessibility checker uh for
[00:30:26.630]all non-framework sort of
[00:30:29.550]web resources is something tommy's spent some time on we
[00:30:34.170]still have yet to um figure out exactly how that's going to be deployed
[00:30:40.230]but i think we're coming much closer so i expect by this time next month that'll be
[00:30:47.790]out there and available to you
[00:30:49.670]all right like tommy mentioned we are busy on framework updates
[00:30:59.270]um
[00:31:00.510]no no no no framework updates this month because we are busy on version six
[00:31:11.050]so um yeah been mentioning it um at the wdn meetings each month that we are busy working
[00:31:20.470]on version six of the framework and that is going to deploy uh tuesday july 8th so in about
[00:31:28.990]two months uh so we're uh moving forward with it um we had a survey on the top level
[00:31:37.310]of the unl.edu website and we received 149 submissions and i have started reaching out
[00:31:45.890]to folks who um responded to that survey that indicated that they were willing to be contacted
[00:31:51.890]for follow-up questions i've got one um person that i'm going to be chatting with tomorrow
[00:31:58.710]another person on friday i think um and others that i'm trying to get scheduled so um
[00:32:08.970]the plan is this is not going to be a huge overhaul of everything like um like in previous
[00:32:20.630]versions of framework updates where you would have to go in and change everything on your site
[00:32:25.310]instead this is going to be kind of a a
[00:32:28.430]performance update um in so much as um how a lot of the javascript in particular um
[00:32:37.150]works across the framework and how that and how it also works with the cms
[00:32:44.490]in particular getting rid of require js which is not been playing nice with the cms
[00:32:51.690]and um but as for visual updates looking at a redesign of the header and footer
[00:32:58.150]and potentially some additional components and uh bringing back some animations and some pizzazz
[00:33:05.790]and uh we'll have more to show off definitely definitely more to show off at the next meeting
[00:33:12.650]um we have a roadmap that um we'll be getting more details as we uh figure out what what will
[00:33:22.930]be going in version six versus what's going to be going in like 6.0.1
[00:33:27.870]1 6.0.2 and potentially even 6.1 6.2 so on get that um so all sorted out
[00:33:38.810]and to do so um we've got two groups that have been meeting regularly the ux design subcommittee
[00:33:46.750]that is more um involved with how things look and and work and then we have a framework
[00:33:55.050]development group that kind of split off from that that
[00:33:57.590]is more interested in um really how things work and how things work um with
[00:34:05.330]developers mostly of public information apps and and web applications um across the across campus
[00:34:13.830]um and so those those two groups are kind of helping to drive that forward
[00:34:20.570]and uh earlier eric mentioned a login one of the topics of conversation that
[00:34:27.310]came up in particular with the framework development group and which i'm sad to say
[00:34:31.230]i forgot to include tommy's slide tommy had put together a great slide of login and how login
[00:34:40.830]like all the logic that goes into login and how that will be improved um you know we right now we
[00:34:49.730]kind of have it where if you think of it in like four potential states you have single sign-on
[00:34:57.030]and you have an application and each of those two things have are kind of registering a logged
[00:35:06.490]out or logged in state so you might have single sign-on and the application like say events
[00:35:14.930]that are showing that you're logged out easy then you should log in um you might have single
[00:35:26.750]sign-on and events that are showing you logged in again easy it just shows you as being logged in
[00:35:33.270]it's those those states where um single sign-on says you're logged in but event says you're
[00:35:42.050]logged out or vice versa single sign-on says you're logged out but event says you're logged in
[00:35:48.910]how how does that get shown and what what is that kind of workflow um
[00:35:56.470]uh what does that look like for the end user and so um tommy has been working to improve
[00:36:03.070]that state management and and one of the things that has kind of will come of that is and we've
[00:36:09.430]already communicated this within the framework development group is that those developers of
[00:36:14.090]apps will need to um uh communicate to the single sign-on that communicate that uh that login state
[00:36:23.890]uh via javascript
[00:36:26.190]to the framework and there will be a little bit more of a um choreography of of the of what the
[00:36:33.110]state management is and that should result in a better overall and more accurate um
[00:36:44.390]communication of the the logged in versus logged out state to the end user
[00:36:50.210]and that could even include kind of a like partially logged
[00:36:55.910]in state where like you're you it shows that you're it knows who you
[00:37:00.090]are but you might need to actually log in again to this particular
[00:37:06.030]application um so that's something that's coming um and along with that
[00:37:14.270]potentially some um improved um login related links so potentially looking
[00:37:25.630]at um surfacing a lot of commonly used um applications and services that you
[00:37:37.750]might log into um in the login region and that that was something that came
[00:37:44.910]directly from our user experience survey results we had several folks
[00:37:49.610]mentioned um wanting uh applications applications and
[00:37:55.350]things like canvas firefly commonly my red email commonly used things
[00:38:00.910]having those in a easier to to find location
[00:38:05.030]so um yeah we'll have we'll definitely have
[00:38:09.610]visuals to share next month and the framework development group has been um
[00:38:16.510]downloading our work in progress and has been kind of kicking the tires
[00:38:21.410]and making sure that it is um
[00:38:25.070]working as expected um so yeah any questions about
[00:38:32.610]the framework version six
[00:38:36.330]well if you have any questions or feature requests
[00:38:44.010]um you can file an issue on github or drop a question or um suggestion
[00:38:52.770]in the framework or
[00:38:54.790]or general channels of slack the wdn slack
[00:38:57.670]and that leads us to successes notables and anything
[00:39:03.390]else to share
[00:39:04.770]anyone got anything
[00:39:10.970]i'm just going to share this i dropped it in earlier
[00:39:20.510]up as a response to a question
[00:39:24.510]but this is the web form training that just happened this morning i just put a
[00:39:29.650]link to the media video in there as i mentioned i want to
[00:39:32.970]cut it up and do not necessarily this video but do
[00:39:37.390]shorter segments about how to do the specific things that we covered in the
[00:39:41.350]training but it's about 40 minutes but that
[00:39:44.510]includes some questions so anyway
[00:39:46.370]that is anything to share
[00:39:54.230]great oh did we note last time too that uh
[00:40:00.030]that uh media of ai captions is now the default
[00:40:03.890]i don't know if we did that that would be something that would be a
[00:40:10.470]a public information app update
[00:40:13.310]tommy that is built in as the default now right
[00:40:20.530]i'm not sure
[00:40:23.950]i'm not sure what you mean by default oh that uh if you submit a video or audio
[00:40:31.030]to media hub it will be uh captioned with media hub ai captions
[00:40:38.290]well that was that's been in there since are you saying like it'll get automatically activated
[00:40:44.870]yes because that isn't in there yet oh it's not in there yet okay well that's coming then
[00:40:53.670]also an update it's coming
[00:40:57.350]all right well any any requests anything anyone needs
[00:41:09.710]out of the framework or apps or cms or dxg
[00:41:23.390]oh if not if not we'll stick around for a help session
[00:41:53.110]wendling does anybody have anything
[00:42:01.090]i just have a question you mentioned a directory refresh would there be
[00:42:06.930]any part of that that would impact the rss feed that's being provided for
[00:42:11.470]the interactive kiosks
[00:42:14.750]no that would mostly be just a ui refresh and we'll be working with the unmc to get
[00:42:22.830]a version up for them as well but that wouldn't we don't think it would ever change that the
[00:42:29.770]data coming out of directory would just be it's mostly ux ui refresh yeah cool yeah but
[00:42:39.070]thank you for we we try to always think about impacts and yeah thank you for reminding them
[00:42:45.510]because we definitely don't want to blow up your your stuff appreciate it
[00:42:52.550]any other questions
[00:42:56.810]if not
[00:43:03.810]if not all right and you and you parting is such sweet sorrow yes see you all in june
[00:43:15.370]Thank you.
[00:43:15.450]Thank you.
[00:43:17.450]Thank you.

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