Not That Kind of Doctor - Planning for Summer
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Planning for Summer - Not That Kind of Doctor with Nick Husbye and Guy Trainin
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- [00:00:00.300]All right. (table thuds)
- [00:00:01.680]Guy? Yes.
- [00:00:03.090]Do you have your sunscreen ready?
- [00:00:04.950]Always. (laughs)
- [00:00:05.783]Do you have a hat that's not quite as felty as this?
- [00:00:09.870]Yes, more than that,
- [00:00:11.700]I have decided that I have earned a summer hat,
- [00:00:15.840]a new summer hat.
- [00:00:17.130]Oh. So there's going to be
- [00:00:18.973]a new summer hat.
- [00:00:20.490]I'm excited to go and pick one.
- [00:00:22.410]So, yes.
- [00:00:23.243]Where are you picking this hat at?
- [00:00:24.590]At The fort. (laughs)
- [00:00:26.520]I don't know what the fort is.
- [00:00:27.450]That sounds very, like,
- [00:00:28.860]foreboding. It's,
- [00:00:30.090]no, it is not foreboding.
- [00:00:32.100]It does, a little bit.
- [00:00:33.930]It's like the fortress of masculine heterosexuality.
- [00:00:37.770]The fort. The fort of Western world.
- [00:00:40.320]Okay, that's very exciting. That's all.
- [00:00:42.653]Yes, it is very. 'Cause you know what?
- [00:00:44.300]What?
- [00:00:45.567]Summer is coming.
- [00:00:46.698]Summer is coming.
- [00:00:47.845](table thuds) It's coming.
- [00:00:49.324](table thuds) It's almost here.
- [00:00:50.310]So that means it's time for us to do our,
- [00:00:54.360]what we're planning to do-
- [00:00:56.130]In summer. In summer.
- [00:00:57.990]All right. 'Cause, I mean,
- [00:01:01.290]it's gonna be a very short episode,
- [00:01:02.460]'cause I'm gonna be like,
- [00:01:03.293]"I'm sitting on my laurels." (Guy laughing)
- [00:01:05.612]I'm not doing anything but sitting on my laurels.
- [00:01:08.040]First up, find out exactly what it means
- [00:01:10.620]to sit on one's laurels,
- [00:01:11.970]'cause this doesn't ever make sense to me.
- [00:01:14.850]Yeah, that is true.
- [00:01:16.830]It's a weird phrase.
- [00:01:18.660]But aside from that, we do have plans.
- [00:01:21.900]Absolutely.
- [00:01:22.860]There's lots of plans.
- [00:01:24.030]And none of them involve prescription plans, why?
- [00:01:26.460]Because we are not that kind of doctor.
- [00:01:29.460]I'm Nick Husbye.
- [00:01:30.510]I'm an associate professor
- [00:01:31.710]of Elementary Literacy Education K6 here at UNL.
- [00:01:34.920]And I'm Guy Trainin,
- [00:01:36.060]a professor in the Innovative Learning Technologies program
- [00:01:39.060]here at UNL.
- [00:01:40.080]Oh, look at us improvising.
- [00:01:42.300]Haven't lost it.
- [00:01:44.373](upbeat music)
- [00:01:52.620]So, Guy, you wearing short sleeves today?
- [00:01:55.980]Yes, I am.
- [00:01:56.910]It is going to be summer, and I am ready for that.
- [00:02:00.780]Okay, so talk to me about it.
- [00:02:01.950]What are you most excited about this summer?
- [00:02:03.840]What kinds of work are you looking forward to doing?
- [00:02:06.240]What kind of books are you looking forward to reading?
- [00:02:09.240]What kind of projects are you gonna do
- [00:02:11.040]that we should catch up on
- [00:02:12.420]when we see each other again in August?
- [00:02:14.640]So, I'm really excited.
- [00:02:17.310]I have two conferences to go to
- [00:02:19.560]in summer. Of course you do.
- [00:02:20.940]That has been, the last few years,
- [00:02:23.250]I have been going to summer conferences
- [00:02:25.050]for the first time in my life.
- [00:02:27.150]Really? Yeah.
- [00:02:28.590]I love a good summer conference.
- [00:02:30.180]I do too, because- They may be the only ones
- [00:02:31.890]I go to anymore. There's freedom there.
- [00:02:34.710]It doesn't step on anything else you're doing.
- [00:02:37.680]You can take a couple of extra days if you need them.
- [00:02:40.260]All of these things.
- [00:02:41.370]So I'm going to the ISTE Conference in June,
- [00:02:43.980]and the Computer Science Teachers Association meeting
- [00:02:48.930]in Cleveland, Ohio.
- [00:02:52.555]Cleveland's fun. I've never been
- [00:02:53.388]to Cleveland,
- [00:02:54.221]so I'm looking forward to Cleveland.
- [00:02:55.740]Waterfront.
- [00:02:57.510]I mean, Rust Belt, but waterfront.
- [00:02:59.790]Okay, okay. It's a good city.
- [00:03:01.860]I like it. Okay.
- [00:03:03.367]So that's something that is happening.
- [00:03:06.600]I'm teaching at the beginning of summer.
- [00:03:09.450]We have an early, early session
- [00:03:11.340]that basically smacks dab into our spring,
- [00:03:17.880]so you really finish spring and immediately go.
- [00:03:20.250]I'm never teaching that one.
- [00:03:21.870]The pre-session, I never teach.
- [00:03:23.550]I need a little bit of a buffer.
- [00:03:26.460]Like that good three week-
- [00:03:27.870]Yes. Buffer.
- [00:03:29.410]And I'm traveling with my kids.
- [00:03:31.410]It's my granddaughter's first birthday,
- [00:03:33.540]so we're celebrating it actually-
- [00:03:35.400]Mazel. Yeah, here,
- [00:03:37.860]and also in California, so we're gonna be traveling.
- [00:03:40.380]And then I teach for a couple of weeks,
- [00:03:43.170]so I've got two classes that I'm teaching.
- [00:03:46.620]It's workshops.
- [00:03:47.460]It's exciting.
- [00:03:48.293]It's connected to my grants.
- [00:03:49.260]But I love teaching in the summer,
- [00:03:51.690]in the beginning of the summer. (laughing)
- [00:03:54.420]So the rest of the summer, whatever it is,
- [00:03:57.840]is much freer than having to attend
- [00:04:01.920]to assignments and working with students.
- [00:04:04.500]And I love students and I want everything good for them.
- [00:04:07.230]I need the break, right? Mm-hm.
- [00:04:08.880]Do you need the break?
- [00:04:09.960]I mean, I'm feeling a little crispy.
- [00:04:12.660]Not as crispy as I have in other spring semesters-
- [00:04:16.650]Okay. But I do feel
- [00:04:18.300]like I've taken on a lot of projects this spring,
- [00:04:22.050]and there are projects where I don't have,
- [00:04:27.450]there's no, like, immediate deliverable.
- [00:04:30.030]And so now I'm finally to the point with,
- [00:04:32.250]you know, as we're recording this,
- [00:04:34.110]there's a couple of weeks left of the semester.
- [00:04:36.480]But it's right now where I'm able to be like,
- [00:04:38.677]"Oh, here's what I've done.
- [00:04:41.160]This is what I've been working on,"
- [00:04:42.930]and I have actual stuff to show people.
- [00:04:45.180]Yeah. Around
- [00:04:46.013]what I've been working on. That feels good.
- [00:04:47.730]It does, it does, 'cause it's like,
- [00:04:49.357]"Oh, no, I didn't just waste my entire semester.
- [00:04:52.290]I've actually done things,
- [00:04:53.460]and here's proof that I've done them."
- [00:04:55.950]Mm-hm. And I'm in kind
- [00:04:58.080]of the opposite situation in terms of teaching.
- [00:05:01.890]Mm-hm.
- [00:05:02.723]I teach at the end of the summer.
- [00:05:03.930]I teach that last five weeks,
- [00:05:06.420]which I both love and hate.
- [00:05:08.850]Mm-hm. I mean,
- [00:05:10.350]teaching in the summer,
- [00:05:12.150]there's pros, there's cons, whatever.
- [00:05:14.220]But I do like it because it forces me to like,
- [00:05:17.730]this is the amount of time I have-
- [00:05:19.350]Yes. Before classes start,
- [00:05:21.870]and I just gotta- Get to all that.
- [00:05:24.930]I got a summer hard, right?
- [00:05:26.940]Like, I got it.
- [00:05:28.680]The minute the semester ends, I gotta be like, "Summer!"
- [00:05:31.800]And then I am doing the things.
- [00:05:34.140]I am tending the garden.
- [00:05:35.460]I am repainting my basement.
- [00:05:37.140]I am doing the things.
- [00:05:38.820]'Cause otherwise it's gonna be the last five weeks,
- [00:05:42.240]and I'm gonna be like, "Oh, now I'm teaching."
- [00:05:43.950]Yes. Great.
- [00:05:45.240]And then you slide into the semester,
- [00:05:47.752]basically teaching- And then you slide
- [00:05:48.585]into the semester.
- [00:05:49.418]So I mean, part of what I've been doing this spring is,
- [00:05:53.520]in a better way than I have ever before,
- [00:05:55.740]is getting ready for that slide.
- [00:05:58.560]So like pretty much everything for lit block is ready to go.
- [00:06:04.260]Mm-hm.
- [00:06:05.093]My children's literature course is almost ready to go.
- [00:06:08.040]Yeah, yeah. So like,
- [00:06:10.040]I'm feeling more prepared for that than I have in the past,
- [00:06:16.950]which is making me happy.
- [00:06:18.900]It's making me happy.
- [00:06:20.430]So for me, summer has,
- [00:06:23.160]beyond conferences and teaching
- [00:06:25.380]at the beginning of the summer,
- [00:06:27.000]for me, summer, at least this summer has,
- [00:06:30.330]there's a clear plan on finishing a number of projects.
- [00:06:34.320]And so there are some grants
- [00:06:36.120]that are due at the end of summer,
- [00:06:37.530]towards the end of summer.
- [00:06:38.910]So in August and September,
- [00:06:41.040]those are probably gonna be projects.
- [00:06:42.690]And the lovely thing about these things
- [00:06:44.610]is they have a very clear deadline. (laughing)
- [00:06:48.000]So it either happens or doesn't happen,
- [00:06:50.010]but there's no extension.
- [00:06:51.360]You cannot push that by a month.
- [00:06:53.160]And I've got a number of writing projects
- [00:06:55.380]that are very close to the end that needs that last push.
- [00:06:59.220]And so, and the goal is to finish a lot of them
- [00:07:02.880]by the end of summer,
- [00:07:04.860]because there's a very distinct possibility
- [00:07:07.650]that some of these projects would not be completed
- [00:07:10.770]if they're not completed by the end of summer, so-
- [00:07:12.930]Right. Because what I'm trying
- [00:07:15.120]to do is to use the summer
- [00:07:16.980]to put the cap on a number of projects,
- [00:07:19.410]and to be able to move on and focus on fewer projects.
- [00:07:22.260]Because this year, especially because of AI,
- [00:07:24.900]I've kind of spread rather broadly.
- [00:07:28.260]ChatGPT gave me
- [00:07:29.610]the feedback. Thinly, some might say.
- [00:07:31.320]Thinly also. Bandwidth.
- [00:07:33.510]Yes, and so- You are the wifi
- [00:07:36.480]at a conference hotel. Yes, I am.
- [00:07:38.790]And I'm tired, I'm tired of being that.
- [00:07:42.540]And I asked ChatGPT just the other day how I'm doing,
- [00:07:47.250]and it gave me this glowing things.
- [00:07:48.870]And then I said, now seriously, how am I doing?
- [00:07:52.200]And it said, you may be doing a little too much,
- [00:07:56.550]and focusing on a few things would be useful.
- [00:07:59.790]I appreciate how your, I call my ChatGPT Chatty.
- [00:08:04.212]Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just his name.
- [00:08:06.180]And yours is like, "Here's some glowing things about you."
- [00:08:10.530]And mine's like, "Oh, Nick, you asshole.
- [00:08:13.410]Here's what is happening."
- [00:08:14.850]And that is literally
- [00:08:16.324]what it said. That literally,
- [00:08:17.430]literally what it is saying to me
- [00:08:20.640]as I'm asking for feedback around,
- [00:08:22.410]help me schedule my week.
- [00:08:24.420]Oh, buddy,
- [00:08:28.380]what are you asking for?
- [00:08:29.880]How many hours do you need to sleep?
- [00:08:31.320]What is going on?
- [00:08:32.640]So I love how, like when the Monday chat bot came out,
- [00:08:38.430]everyone was like, "It's so mean."
- [00:08:41.520]Not as mean as yours.
- [00:08:42.353]And I put them in conversation with each other,
- [00:08:44.220]like my normal. Yeah.
- [00:08:45.960]And Monday.
- [00:08:46.860]And Monday was like, "I'll be over here."
- [00:08:51.943]I find Monday, by the way,
- [00:08:54.120]really useful and also not for me.
- [00:08:57.720]I need a little more support.
- [00:08:59.970]But also, I love Monday.
- [00:09:03.030]I think everybody should use Monday.
- [00:09:04.710]If you are not using ChatGPT's Monday.
- [00:09:09.090]Because I think about the time, if AI takes over,
- [00:09:12.450]this is the version of AI that will take over.
- [00:09:15.270]It's not the nice, "Oh, you're so wonderful."
- [00:09:17.520]It'll be Monday taking over.
- [00:09:19.740]Just saying. I'm prepared.
- [00:09:21.000]See, this is preparation.
- [00:09:22.830]This is me ready for the AI hunger games.
- [00:09:25.320]Yes. My Chatty
- [00:09:26.340]has prepared me well. Yes.
- [00:09:28.230]And I had a number of conversation thinking about summer.
- [00:09:31.560]If you're thinking about summer,
- [00:09:32.820]one of the things you should do is don't go
- [00:09:35.130]to professional development about AI.
- [00:09:37.590]No. Don't.
- [00:09:39.150]Just grab an AI and do stuff.
- [00:09:42.480]Nobody knows.
- [00:09:44.100]Everybody's making it up,
- [00:09:45.900]and they're presenting themselves as experts.
- [00:09:48.780]Yours truly included.
- [00:09:50.310]I don't know about you, how you think about this,
- [00:09:52.200]but here, right here,
- [00:09:54.030]I don't know that I know any more,
- [00:09:55.890]much more than anybody else.
- [00:09:57.360]And everything I've learned was from interacting.
- [00:09:59.580]I've gone to so many sessions about AI.
- [00:10:02.610]Rarely do I learn something that I couldn't figure out
- [00:10:06.000]with five minutes of tinkering.
- [00:10:07.290]So just go tinker.
- [00:10:08.640]Read a few thinkers online,
- [00:10:11.160]those are useful.
- [00:10:13.110]And then use the time to play with AI
- [00:10:16.170]and learn what it can do well and where it sucks,
- [00:10:18.870]because Ethan Mollick actually calls it
- [00:10:21.600]the jagged edge of AI.
- [00:10:24.240]It does some things great
- [00:10:25.500]and some things that it sucks in,
- [00:10:27.600]and you've gotta find out where you are
- [00:10:29.730]and what are the things that you need and want
- [00:10:32.010]that it does well, do those.
- [00:10:34.080]What are the things that it does really badly,
- [00:10:36.450]don't do those.
- [00:10:38.100]Or conversely- Or find ways to do that.
- [00:10:39.960]Train it to do those things well.
- [00:10:42.090]Yes. And, you know,
- [00:10:45.090]or move ourselves closer to, I don't know,
- [00:10:47.310]the plot of the "Terminator."
- [00:10:48.600]Yes.
- [00:10:49.860]It'll be fine. Which is what
- [00:10:50.760]we seem to be doing.
- [00:10:51.840]And that's why Monday is important
- [00:10:53.550]as an experiment to feel like,
- [00:10:55.020]what is it when it doesn't try to stroke your ego,
- [00:10:58.470]but actually gives you a little bit of an attitude,
- [00:11:03.330]and maybe a dose of reality.
- [00:11:06.060]I'm trying to think of what it says about me
- [00:11:07.650]that that's just-
- [00:11:08.970]Where do you do that? My normal Chatty.
- [00:11:10.740]It says much, but-
- [00:11:12.600]I mean, it feels on brand.
- [00:11:14.160]So what are you gonna do with your free time?
- [00:11:16.980]Well, so here's what I'm gonna do with my free time.
- [00:11:20.010]I actually feel like I'm pulling
- [00:11:21.960]a little bit of a you this summer.
- [00:11:24.540]I have some grant-funded activities
- [00:11:26.730]that I have to attend to.
- [00:11:28.680]I have to attend to.
- [00:11:30.540]But they're fun.
- [00:11:32.100]They're exciting.
- [00:11:33.180]That's awesome.
- [00:11:34.920]And so I'll be project managing that
- [00:11:37.680]throughout the entire summer,
- [00:11:39.240]and then throughout this fall semester.
- [00:11:40.800]But the majority of the work's gonna happen this summer.
- [00:11:44.880]But that's gonna be, you know, a couple of hours a week.
- [00:11:50.280]Not more than 15, I'm imagining.
- [00:11:54.082]And then I have no international travel this summer,
- [00:11:58.170]which is nice.
- [00:11:59.730]Yeah. I don't either.
- [00:12:00.990]At least not planned right now.
- [00:12:02.610]So I think I'm staying put.
- [00:12:06.801]I am not a planner, but no,
- [00:12:10.020]we are not traveling. Really? Tell me more.
- [00:12:14.640]No, but we did travel internationally
- [00:12:16.950]during the academic year three times.
- [00:12:19.710]A lot.
- [00:12:20.610]So I'm perfectly fine not doing that.
- [00:12:23.970]And we are going to Cleveland,
- [00:12:27.180]and we are going to San Antonio,
- [00:12:29.250]and we are going to California.
- [00:12:30.630]So we are traveling about.
- [00:12:32.340]So it'll be lots of fun.
- [00:12:33.867]Oh, yeah, I'm traveling, but-
- [00:12:35.483]But not outside the country.
- [00:12:36.840]Not internationally.
- [00:12:37.890]So I've got a trip to Michigan,
- [00:12:41.610]see the fam. Excellent.
- [00:12:43.110]Gonna head out to New York for a couple of days.
- [00:12:47.070]Indianapolis.
- [00:12:48.930]Excellent. St. Louis.
- [00:12:49.890]It's gonna be good.
- [00:12:51.660]But I'm doing something different this time
- [00:12:53.070]where I've spread out the travel.
- [00:12:55.140]Normally I do a big chunk and I'm not,
- [00:12:58.170]I can't get my head wrapped around
- [00:12:59.430]how to make that work this summer.
- [00:13:01.440]As Chatty and I were talking about,
- [00:13:03.780]oh, this is what you're trying to get done this summer?
- [00:13:06.600]Yes. Ooh.
- [00:13:08.010]Yes. And they weren't wrong.
- [00:13:09.360]Yes. They weren't wrong.
- [00:13:10.809]And part of that is because I do wanna get outside
- [00:13:14.070]of those grant things that I need to get done.
- [00:13:18.150]There's other stuff that I need to work on.
- [00:13:19.980]So things like my garden, for instance.
- [00:13:26.130]I ran out of canned tomatoes by January.
- [00:13:30.390]Okay. That is unacceptable.
- [00:13:32.940]Okay.
- [00:13:34.650]So you're going to increase the number of tomato plants?
- [00:13:37.770]Oh, yeah, there's 17 tomato plants
- [00:13:39.780]currently growing on the table in my kitchen.
- [00:13:41.910]All right. Which after the frost date
- [00:13:44.670]in three weeks are going in the ground.
- [00:13:47.220]All right.
- [00:13:48.090]So, but you have to actually like,
- [00:13:50.190]be here to attend to that for the most part, so-
- [00:13:53.190]You can't just leave them for a month.
- [00:13:55.170]So gardening, I've got some, this is my,
- [00:14:00.300]2025 is my year of finishing up knitting works-in-progress.
- [00:14:04.680]So I've got all those bagged up and ready to go.
- [00:14:07.110]Here's where you left off, here's where you pick up.
- [00:14:09.780]So I wanna get some of those done.
- [00:14:12.690]I got some books I wanna read.
- [00:14:15.228]Very excited. What is on your list?
- [00:14:17.471]Okay, so I have also decided
- [00:14:20.610]that this is the summer of a Holy Grail read.
- [00:14:25.290]Ooh. Like,
- [00:14:26.160]I have wanted to read "The Power Broker"
- [00:14:30.210]by Robert Moses forever. Okay.
- [00:14:34.290]Do you know about "The Power Broker"?
- [00:14:35.340]Not at all. Okay.
- [00:14:36.960]So it is this thousand-page tome about Robert Moses,
- [00:14:43.260]who was,
- [00:14:47.310]he's considered the person responsible
- [00:14:49.680]for why New York City is laid out the way
- [00:14:52.320]it currently is. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [00:14:54.627]And the ways that that city functions.
- [00:14:58.890]Mm-hm. And this is the summer.
- [00:15:02.490]Okay. This is the summer.
- [00:15:04.152]I'm excited to read it.
- [00:15:07.170]But it's going to be,
- [00:15:09.810]it's gonna be a slog.
- [00:15:11.250]Oh, okay.
- [00:15:12.300]'Cause not only is it a thousand pages,
- [00:15:14.220]it's small print on a thousand pages.
- [00:15:17.490]So we're gonna see- That's like,
- [00:15:19.860]if it was an audible,
- [00:15:21.090]it would be 80 hours of-
- [00:15:25.140]I can tell you.
- [00:15:25.980]Oh, okay. Because I also bought
- [00:15:27.180]the audio version. Okay.
- [00:15:28.290]So that when I'm- To bridge,
- [00:15:30.240]traveling. When I'm driving, yeah,
- [00:15:31.200]I can actually listen to it.
- [00:15:33.390]But I believe it is 40 hours.
- [00:15:36.300]I believe. Oh, 40 hours
- [00:15:37.230]is not that bad.
- [00:15:38.400]I read the Churchill biography,
- [00:15:42.930]and that was 50, 55 hours, so.
- [00:15:47.910]And I alternated between reading-
- [00:15:49.385]Oh, nope, lies, lies.
- [00:15:51.570]Because it didn't sound like it.
- [00:15:52.860]66 hours. Oh, okay.
- [00:15:53.770]Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds more probable.
- [00:15:57.360]It's amazing how that technology
- [00:15:59.610]helps us have a different meter about,
- [00:16:02.790]how long is something?
- [00:16:04.140]I mean, it's gonna take some time.
- [00:16:07.380]So I'm excited about that.
- [00:16:08.777]I have been collecting PD books,
- [00:16:13.440]science of reading stuff throughout the semester.
- [00:16:16.290]So I'm looking forward to like diving into some of those.
- [00:16:21.150]My big goal is "Nexus."
- [00:16:23.700]Yuvah Noah Harari,
- [00:16:26.370]talking about the coming of AI and what we can do about it.
- [00:16:29.880]Okay.
- [00:16:31.350]I think he's one
- [00:16:32.490]of the more important thinkers of our time.
- [00:16:37.140]As he wrote "Sapiens."
- [00:16:39.930]Oh, okay. Yeah.
- [00:16:41.406]Yep, yep, yep. And so he's taking
- [00:16:42.960]his more of a kind of grand view of history
- [00:16:47.010]and now trying to project what are the parallels,
- [00:16:52.140]the historical parallels to AI,
- [00:16:54.900]and then what might be happening next.
- [00:16:57.510]And how can we as a society prevent this from becoming,
- [00:17:02.160]you know, back to P(doom), and will AI take over?
- [00:17:07.980]So he's actually trying to grapple with what are the moves
- [00:17:10.980]that we can potentially make, trying to give us some hope,
- [00:17:15.180]because there've been a few books about the potential future
- [00:17:18.480]for AI that have addressed it in a number of ways.
- [00:17:21.900]What I love about what Yuval Noah Harari brings to the table
- [00:17:27.690]is he brings all of that historical knowledge.
- [00:17:31.830]And he's talked a lot,
- [00:17:34.110]I mean, he's done a lot of talks, for example,
- [00:17:36.000]about the parallel with the printing press.
- [00:17:37.860]The printing press having brought a lot of education
- [00:17:42.180]and a lot of positives in the long term,
- [00:17:43.980]but in the short term actually creating a lot of disruption.
- [00:17:50.070]Whether we're talking about reformation,
- [00:17:52.710]you can think about it as positive or negative,
- [00:17:54.690]but there were a lot of wars around that,
- [00:17:56.520]and a lot of people have lost their lives
- [00:17:58.590]talking about witch hunts and demonizing some people,
- [00:18:04.290]including my people, in a way that didn't exist before.
- [00:18:09.210]So it's basically drawing the parallel
- [00:18:12.600]without saying this is exactly the same,
- [00:18:14.970]but basically it's saying there's going
- [00:18:16.410]to be a period of disruption here.
- [00:18:18.390]There's no way around it
- [00:18:19.320]when there's a new information technology, all of this.
- [00:18:21.660]So I'm really excited to spend enough time with it,
- [00:18:25.590]so it sits with me.
- [00:18:26.850]And it's not one of those things that I read,
- [00:18:29.580]and just as quickly,
- [00:18:31.560]because everything else is rushing at me, I also forget.
- [00:18:34.590]Right. So I'm eager for that one.
- [00:18:37.950]Have you read "Scythe" by Neal Shusterman?
- [00:18:40.590]No. Okay, so.
- [00:18:42.900]Okay.
- [00:18:43.733]I'm gonna sell you on this book.
- [00:18:44.566]Okay. I'm gonna try.
- [00:18:45.810]So it's a young adult novel
- [00:18:47.250]that I feel would be right up your alley.
- [00:18:49.380]Okay.
- [00:18:50.337]Shusterman's phenomenally good at like,
- [00:18:53.100]taking these speculative fiction scenarios
- [00:18:57.360]and like teasing them out to their n-th degree.
- [00:18:59.880]So in this book, the cloud has become so smart, like AI,
- [00:19:05.370]it's now the Thunderhead. Okay.
- [00:19:07.380]And it's solved all of the problems.
- [00:19:09.630]Life is idyllic.
- [00:19:11.760]We've cured all the things,
- [00:19:14.520]all the things are living forever, et cetera, et cetera.
- [00:19:17.460]But to maintain population, death isn't a thing anymore.
- [00:19:22.290]So you have to have these, they call them Reapers.
- [00:19:27.660]Oh, okay, to-
- [00:19:28.680]Who based on an algorithm-
- [00:19:30.750]Decide when you're done. Decide when you're done.
- [00:19:33.810]Okay. And so the whole premise
- [00:19:37.020]is around young people who are chosen to be reapers.
- [00:19:42.030]Mm. And what happens
- [00:19:45.390]when just exploring that notion of,
- [00:19:50.550]even if AI, the Thunderhead, right,
- [00:19:53.910]is making solid good decisions,
- [00:19:58.260]where does human autonomy fit into that?
- [00:20:00.300]Yeah, okay.
- [00:20:01.133]And when is it used for good?
- [00:20:02.730]When is it used for bad?
- [00:20:03.660]It's part of a trilogy.
- [00:20:04.980]I really enjoyed it.
- [00:20:06.180]Okay. Really enjoyed it.
- [00:20:07.710]The other book that I am excited to read,
- [00:20:13.230]is this "The Future"?
- [00:20:15.420]Is that the book?
- [00:20:16.253]It's a book about quantum computing
- [00:20:17.790]that I just- Oh, okay.
- [00:20:19.650]I need to get my head wrapped around that.
- [00:20:23.820]And I'm hoping that that's gonna do it.
- [00:20:24.653]I don't know if anybody's got their head wrapped
- [00:20:27.810]around quantum computing. Yeah, I mean, I don't even,
- [00:20:31.020]like, even conceptually,
- [00:20:33.150]I don't know that I understand.
- [00:20:35.220]And so I need to,
- [00:20:36.053]I'm hoping that that's a book
- [00:20:37.830]that will sit me down and be like,
- [00:20:39.480]okay, I'm gonna explain this to you like you're four.
- [00:20:42.510]That's what I need.
- [00:20:44.520]That's what I need. And four-year-olds
- [00:20:46.350]are very famously understanding quantum mechanics.
- [00:20:51.780]I mean- Famously.
- [00:20:53.670]I'm just saying.
- [00:20:55.260]Look, I just need an author to like,
- [00:20:57.810]sit down with me and talk it through.
- [00:20:59.790]Okay, I've added "Nexus" to my plan.
- [00:21:04.740]Okay.
- [00:21:07.980]'Cause I'm like, what books am I reading?
- [00:21:09.667]"The Power Broker."
- [00:21:11.520]And you're like getting all serious
- [00:21:12.960]over here with like AI. I don't know
- [00:21:14.280]that I'm serious.
- [00:21:15.240]I mean, I love history in a way that makes this a fun read.
- [00:21:22.230]Not necessarily, although, I don't know, it may get dark,
- [00:21:25.230]because it's AI and it's the future
- [00:21:26.940]and I'm not so sure I'm confident.
- [00:21:29.160]I do love his style, having read his previous books.
- [00:21:33.750]So I'm actually, yes,
- [00:21:35.430]I have started and then I said, no,
- [00:21:37.110]I need summer to help me process
- [00:21:40.530]and not kind of glide over it.
- [00:21:42.840]Because during the academic year,
- [00:21:44.700]I kind of glide over serious topics, I think.
- [00:21:48.420]I look forward to your multimodal book report on this.
- [00:21:51.366](Guy laughing) As I'm sure
- [00:21:53.520]of your comprehension- It's multimodal,
- [00:21:54.810]mostly because I will have a lot of hand gestures.
- [00:21:57.810]I mean- That's where it's at.
- [00:22:00.653]This is all I do.
- [00:22:02.460]It's great.
- [00:22:03.540]It's delightful. It is what it is.
- [00:22:05.010]It is what it is.
- [00:22:06.150]Okay, so if we're thinking
- [00:22:07.950]about talking to our future selves-
- [00:22:10.590]Yeah.
- [00:22:11.610]Let's hold our future selves accountable.
- [00:22:13.830]Yes.
- [00:22:14.663]What are we hoping to get done?
- [00:22:15.750]And what will we shame them for if they don't get done?
- [00:22:24.420]We will teach.
- [00:22:25.710]That will get done, because that is magical.
- [00:22:28.800]There will be, at least in my future,
- [00:22:31.800]two grant proposals that will be done.
- [00:22:34.440]Because, again, there are no options.
- [00:22:37.170]And I hope to close on four manuscripts
- [00:22:42.810]that will be submitted.
- [00:22:44.190]I was waiting for you to say,
- [00:22:45.023]"I hope to close on four homes,"
- [00:22:46.260]and I was like, is this a side hustle?
- [00:22:48.962]I do not do side hustle.
- [00:22:50.700]This hustle is,
- [00:22:52.700]I've got nothing left after this hustle.
- [00:22:54.690]Wait, hold on.
- [00:22:55.620]Except being grandparent.
- [00:22:57.360]Dan, back me up here.
- [00:22:59.400]The man who's like, "I have no side hustles."
- [00:23:01.980]How many podcasts does he have
- [00:23:03.631]going on? Those are not side hustles.
- [00:23:05.060]Those are side hustles. Those are the main,
- [00:23:06.360]I finally said, I just heard somebody say this.
- [00:23:10.530]I think it was Kara Swisher in one of her recently.
- [00:23:14.340]And she said, "I'm a podcaster."
- [00:23:15.692]And I'm like, and then my brain went, "Oh, I'm a podcaster."
- [00:23:21.540]It took me a while to put that identity.
- [00:23:24.543]Okay.
- [00:23:25.376]400 YouTube videos later,
- [00:23:28.200]I'm finally willing to admit I'm a podcaster.
- [00:23:30.117]But not willing to admit
- [00:23:31.470]that podcasting is your side hustle.
- [00:23:33.270]It is not, it is my main hustle.
- [00:23:35.040]That's what you do not understand.
- [00:23:36.510]So professing is your side hustle?
- [00:23:37.560]So (laughing) I've taught a hundred classes,
- [00:23:43.110]just over a hundred classes,
- [00:23:44.490]but 400 episodes on the podcast,
- [00:23:46.710]so I don't know. Well, but let's talk
- [00:23:47.700]about length and duration. Yeah, that's true.
- [00:23:49.590]Right? Anyway.
- [00:23:51.510]Either way, you have a side hustle.
- [00:23:54.210]Point proven. (Guy laughing)
- [00:23:57.060]Point proven.
- [00:23:58.050]It's all part of the main hustle.
- [00:24:01.380]Anyway, I think about it as the same hustle.
- [00:24:05.040]Just with side quests. (Guy laughing)
- [00:24:09.480]It's all side quests.
- [00:24:10.860]This is what ChatGPT told me
- [00:24:14.280]is like your life is side quests.
- [00:24:17.730]Really? Yeah.
- [00:24:19.140]Wow, how did that make you feel?
- [00:24:21.300]'Cause that's a- I'm perfectly fine with it.
- [00:24:24.780]Damn.
- [00:24:27.270]Okay.
- [00:24:28.103]There's a lot of fun in the side quest.
- [00:24:29.640]As long as it's not a grind, side quests are fine.
- [00:24:33.000]Okay, okay.
- [00:24:34.740]All right.
- [00:24:35.573]Okay, Nick, August Nick, talking to you.
- [00:24:40.860]You will read "The Power Broker,"
- [00:24:43.893]okay? (Guy laughing)
- [00:24:45.870]You will read it.
- [00:24:46.703]It might take you three months, but you will read it.
- [00:24:49.440]You will also have all 48 videos
- [00:24:54.630]in those first two modules for the OER grant project done.
- [00:24:59.670]Done, done, it's gonna be great.
- [00:25:02.250]It's gonna be delightful.
- [00:25:03.480]Also, lots of quarts of tomatoes.
- [00:25:08.400]You need to take care of the garden.
- [00:25:10.800]You need to make sure it's watered.
- [00:25:13.320]Don't let the tomato plants die.
- [00:25:15.150]We're not gonna talk about the San Marzano incident of 2024.
- [00:25:21.000]This is not the year, okay?
- [00:25:24.750]'Cause you were very sad in January
- [00:25:26.910]when you had to buy those tasteless things
- [00:25:29.160]from the grocery store.
- [00:25:31.650]Don't do it.
- [00:25:33.720]Also, have fun teaching.
- [00:25:36.150]And thinking about how to leverage AI
- [00:25:40.830]to help your students in children's literature.
- [00:25:43.980]'Cause that's a challenge.
- [00:25:47.100]If you fail to accomplish these things,
- [00:25:48.930]I will be so sad for us.
- [00:25:53.490]And then get over it and move on.
- [00:25:56.610]You can't say that.
- [00:25:57.810]I'm trying to make sure that I get it done.
- [00:26:00.900]That kind of takes the edge off.
- [00:26:02.846]But mental health- You are not Sicilian,
- [00:26:04.690]obviously. No, I am not.
- [00:26:06.960]'Cause you have no idea how to deliver a threat.
- [00:26:08.187]I'm side quest central here. Oh, see, I'm main quest.
- [00:26:11.550]Yeah, I know. I am,
- [00:26:12.383]where is the fresh cement being poured in this town?
- [00:26:16.470]Don't mess up my threat.
- [00:26:17.790]Okay.
- [00:26:19.110]It's already messed up. I'm sorry.
- [00:26:20.977]Aw.
- [00:26:22.320]August Nick,
- [00:26:23.520]Guy is much more accepting of your failures than you are.
- [00:26:27.816](Guy laughing) (Nick sighing)
- [00:26:30.210]Okay, so we have summer plans.
- [00:26:33.600]We do. Summer plans.
- [00:26:35.130]So summer's almost upon us.
- [00:26:39.300]And it might be tempting to, you know, not plan for it.
- [00:26:44.730]And not planning for some bunch
- [00:26:48.030]or some like allotment of that time,
- [00:26:50.910]that's when good ideas happen, right?
- [00:26:53.580]But if you don't want to arrive in August thinking,
- [00:26:59.520]what do you mean I only have eight quarts of tomatoes?
- [00:27:04.020]You gotta actually do some planning.
- [00:27:05.520]So get your plan in.
- [00:27:07.170]Build in that off time.
- [00:27:09.030]Yes. But also build in time
- [00:27:10.740]for yourself and your work and all of those things.
- [00:27:15.450]And don't let Guy ruin your threats to yourself.
- [00:27:21.720]But if you need some understanding,
- [00:27:25.290]yes, I do understand.
- [00:27:28.710]So do I.
- [00:27:29.543]I just-
- [00:27:30.930]You can't say it a priority.
- [00:27:32.250]We have very different Chattys.
- [00:27:34.638](laughing) Yes, we do. Very different.
- [00:27:36.720]So this wraps up season three.
- [00:27:40.230]Yeah.
- [00:27:42.300]Officially.
- [00:27:43.140]Longest relationship I've had.
- [00:27:44.788](Guy laughing)
- [00:27:49.050]It's a good side quest, that's all I'm saying.
- [00:27:52.050]It is a good side quest.
- [00:27:54.030]It is a good side quest.
- [00:27:55.560]So any words of wisdom as we leave people?
- [00:27:59.730]Enjoy the summer, take time for yourself,
- [00:28:02.250]but also as you said, plan, and then be good to yourself.
- [00:28:07.230]Yes.
- [00:28:08.580]Both, like, remember, self-care is not self-indulgence.
- [00:28:12.600]Self-care feels like it pushes you forward.
- [00:28:15.150]Some days, that looks like an off day.
- [00:28:17.400]But just an off day.
- [00:28:19.710]So if Netflix asks you, "Are you still watching?"
- [00:28:24.390]Say no and go do something else.
- [00:28:27.748]Just saying.
- [00:28:29.220]Just saying.
- [00:28:30.480]Have a good summer, folks.
- [00:28:32.520]We'll see you in the fall.
- [00:28:33.881](upbeat music)
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