Tech EDGE: CS4NE with Special Guests, Zaid Kakish and Tom Knudsen from Nullify at UNO

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Kimberly and Guy chat with University of Nebraska-Omaha students Zaid Kakish and Tom Knudsen about their organization, Nullify, and the field of cybersecurity. Computer Science for Nebraska (CS4NE) University of Nebraska-Lincoln (UNL) Technology (Tech) Education In Digital and Global Environments (EDGE) Innovation in Teacher Education College of Education and Human Sciences | Department of Teaching, Learning and Teacher Education

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[00:00:06.090]Hi, I'm Guy Trainin
[00:00:07.770]from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.
[00:00:10.770]And I'm Kimberly Ingraham-Beck from Gretna Public Schools.
[00:00:13.999]And this is CS4NE.
[00:00:16.710]And today we're talking to a couple
[00:00:19.680]of students from Nullify.
[00:00:21.630]Tell us a little bit about Nullify.
[00:00:23.790]Yeah, so Nullify is a student-run
[00:00:26.880]like group at UNO and they focus on cybersecurity.
[00:00:31.350]So, they focus on helping spread information
[00:00:34.650]about cybersecurity, but also,
[00:00:37.890]not just at the collegiate level,
[00:00:39.270]but they also hold an event every year
[00:00:41.910]for high school students called Capture the Flag,
[00:00:44.970]where it's a competition where students
[00:00:48.630]solve problems and get a key
[00:00:51.240]or a passphrase, which is called the flag.
[00:00:54.750]And so it's super fun
[00:00:57.210]And they often talk about it as CTF.
[00:00:59.970]So, if you hear CTF, this is what they mean.
[00:01:02.700]And I'm really excited
[00:01:04.500]because I love the fact that students
[00:01:06.720]who are actually becoming professionals in cybersecurity,
[00:01:10.740]one of those areas that I know almost nothing about.
[00:01:13.410]So, everything is a learning experience for me at least.
[00:01:15.900]And I think for many teachers, if you just started
[00:01:18.210]with computer science and you're just teaching programming
[00:01:21.510]and algorithms and those kind of things,
[00:01:24.210]cybersecurity sounds really far away,
[00:01:26.940]but it is an emerging field.
[00:01:28.500]It is exciting
[00:01:29.550]and I'm excited to hear what they have to say.
[00:01:32.340]Tell us a little bit about yourself
[00:01:34.950]and your experience in cybersecurity.
[00:01:37.770]So, hi, my name is Zaid Kakish.
[00:01:39.420]I'm a current senior at the University of Nebraska, Omaha,
[00:01:42.630]pursuing a dual degree
[00:01:43.650]in computer science and cybersecurity.
[00:01:46.650]A little bit about my experience in cybersecurity.
[00:01:48.930]I'm currently working as an intern
[00:01:51.120]in the software engineering and a little bit
[00:01:52.590]of cybersecurity at MITRE.
[00:01:54.840]I started off my career
[00:01:56.310]as an intern at American National Bank, worked a lot
[00:01:58.530]with cybersecurity and auditing
[00:02:00.270]and then moved here to MITRE now where I am doing
[00:02:03.780]and I'm really happy about the work I am doing.
[00:02:06.150]Hello, I'm Tom Knudsen, I'm also a senior.
[00:02:08.910]I major in cybersecurity and I'll be graduating this May.
[00:02:14.380]I've been experiencing cybersecurity
[00:02:17.550]basically ever since high school.
[00:02:20.370]My high school had a CyberPatriots club,
[00:02:24.150]it was through the Air Force where we messed
[00:02:28.230]with different operating systems
[00:02:31.200]and tried to figure out some different
[00:02:34.500]like challenges through them.
[00:02:36.510]Then in high school I joined Nullify
[00:02:38.940]and then participated in the club.
[00:02:41.760]And then through work experience,
[00:02:44.400]this past summer, I worked at NCITE,
[00:02:46.200]the National Counterterrorism Innovation, Technology
[00:02:48.570]and Education Center over here on campus.
[00:02:52.710]I worked in the Student Security Operations Center
[00:02:54.870]using Splunk and Cortex XDR
[00:02:58.200]to do threat hunts on the environment
[00:03:01.110]and create dashboards.
[00:03:02.430]Very cool. That's great.
[00:03:04.470]So, could you tell us a little bit about Nullify?
[00:03:07.650]Yeah. So, Nullify is our cybersecurity club at UNL.
[00:03:11.250]We give talks twice a week.
[00:03:12.840]We do an introduction once they talk
[00:03:14.850]where we introduce students to new tools in cybersecurity.
[00:03:18.060]Just kind of get them dipping their toes into the field,
[00:03:21.120]messing around with different tools
[00:03:22.440]so they can learn more on the extracurricular site.
[00:03:26.880]On Fridays we do our advanced talk
[00:03:28.740]where we cover more advanced tools.
[00:03:30.990]We talk about recent trends in the fields.
[00:03:33.510]For example, we did an RFID talk one time
[00:03:35.790]about radio frequency, how you could clone RFID.
[00:03:38.700]It was really fun to see,
[00:03:39.780]a lot of students were really interested.
[00:03:41.700]Just last week we had a Man-in-the-Middle attack demo.
[00:03:44.460]I led that talk, it was really fun,
[00:03:46.230]it showed how you can eavesdrop
[00:03:48.570]onto different networks and listen in
[00:03:50.700]about the packets are being sent as such.
[00:03:53.730]Other than that, we do a lot
[00:03:54.563]of Capture the Flag competitions.
[00:03:56.010]So, we participate against other colleges,
[00:03:58.170]other universities, just other institutions across the US,
[00:04:01.620]and we participate in these Capture the Flag challenges,
[00:04:04.620]which essentially test our hacking skills.
[00:04:07.260]There are different categories, forensics,
[00:04:09.360]password cracking, open-source intelligence,
[00:04:12.600]all you can think of about cybersecurity.
[00:04:14.160]And we participate in those challenges.
[00:04:15.540]We compete and we win prizes. We sometimes go to finals.
[00:04:20.250]It's a really fun challenge
[00:04:21.240]and we really do those a lot at Nullify.
[00:04:23.820]All right. So, what are the primary goals of Nullify?
[00:04:27.660]So, our goal is to introduce students to cybersecurity,
[00:04:31.650]if they are new, if they're already experienced,
[00:04:34.080]we're looking to build their skillset
[00:04:35.880]and help them improve in all aspects of cybersecurity.
[00:04:38.850]We also want students to connect with network professionals
[00:04:41.370]across the cybersecurity industry field.
[00:04:44.430]We host a lot of guest talks with students
[00:04:46.980]to help them connect more.
[00:04:48.690]So for example,
[00:04:49.560]we had the chief information security officer
[00:04:51.840]at First National Technology Services
[00:04:54.480]come in and give a talk.
[00:04:56.100]We had Gallup come in and give a talk.
[00:04:58.140]And then we have a few other people
[00:05:00.780]from the cybersecurity industry that are coming
[00:05:02.400]to give talks this upcoming semester.
[00:05:04.290]So, we have a cybersecurity manager from Protiviti
[00:05:07.050]coming in to talk to students
[00:05:08.790]and introduce them about different aspects of cybersecurity,
[00:05:11.460]how AI also plays into cybersecurity,
[00:05:13.470]which is a really advancing field, and more.
[00:05:16.530]So, we aim to really build that network
[00:05:19.530]with students and cybersecurity professionals.
[00:05:21.840]And then lastly, we want students
[00:05:22.860]to have fun in cybersecurity.
[00:05:24.240]That's why we introduced the CTFs.
[00:05:26.610]We want them to compete and have fun
[00:05:28.560]and really learn cybersecurity
[00:05:30.090]in that practical environment.
[00:05:31.740]I would also like to add, we have had,
[00:05:33.480]like coming to give talks,
[00:05:34.313]we also had the local FBI office come and give a talk.
[00:05:37.530]One of the,
[00:05:39.466]I think it was the computer scientist on their team,
[00:05:42.240]he is a Nullify alumnus, so we've been able
[00:05:44.400]to keep in contact with him
[00:05:45.600]and bring him in to help give talks
[00:05:47.460]and like talk about federal workforce.
[00:05:49.920]That's super cool.
[00:05:52.020]So, speaking of your Capture the Flag event
[00:05:54.360]that you're hosting, what kind of challenges
[00:05:56.670]can high school students expect to encounter?
[00:05:58.950]Yeah, so our Capture the Flag event
[00:06:00.390]will host six different categories.
[00:06:02.460]We are looking to do forensics, password cracking,
[00:06:05.520]log analysis, cryptography, OSINT,
[00:06:08.610]a little bit of miscellaneous as well.
[00:06:11.190]So, all sorts of challenges
[00:06:12.690]across the cybersecurity industry.
[00:06:15.270]A lot of challenges that we see are gonna be similar
[00:06:17.820]to things that we would compete in at the college
[00:06:20.850]and university level.
[00:06:22.020]So, we are taking inspiration from challenges that we see
[00:06:25.170]and essentially writing our own challenges
[00:06:27.690]that we wanna direct towards high schools
[00:06:30.180]and give them those challenges across all those categories.
[00:06:33.000]Just to let them, you know,
[00:06:34.170]dip their toes in all these different categories
[00:06:36.030]in cybersecurities and cybersecurity
[00:06:37.890]that they might see.
[00:06:39.840]So, we will be doing challenges, all sorts from easy to hard
[00:06:43.950]and we will be providing the resources
[00:06:45.570]for the students to practice.
[00:06:47.430]And so when they come in for the day of the event,
[00:06:50.070]they are ready to go at a moments notice.
[00:06:52.230]We will be providing the tools in the environments
[00:06:55.050]so all the tools that they will use and learn
[00:06:57.210]will be on the machines that we provide them.
[00:06:59.730]And then, as I mentioned, the challenge will be easy
[00:07:01.650]to hard and then we will have five challenges
[00:07:03.810]for each of the categories.
[00:07:05.700]Awesome.
[00:07:06.533]And when is the Nullify Capture the Flag
[00:07:10.380]for high school student events?
[00:07:12.330]So, the Capture the Flag is right now scheduled
[00:07:14.250]for Saturday, March 15th.
[00:07:16.590]We are looking to have it from 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM,
[00:07:19.710]just have the students coming into PKI
[00:07:23.010]and, you know, participate there.
[00:07:24.930]We will be providing lunch and breakfast
[00:07:27.300]and they will be spending the entire day there.
[00:07:29.640]We will also do 15 minute small talk intervals
[00:07:32.130]where officers of Nullify will give a talk
[00:07:34.980]about the different categories
[00:07:36.600]and a little bit about the tools they're gonna use.
[00:07:38.940]So for example, if we were talking
[00:07:40.470]about a password cracking category, we would have one
[00:07:43.770]of our officers talk about the tools such as Hashcat
[00:07:45.990]or John the Ripper where, you know,
[00:07:48.060]they would just do a quick demo,
[00:07:49.440]cover what they are and how they could use them
[00:07:51.780]in the challenges.
[00:07:53.370]Other than that, the students will be participating
[00:07:55.290]in those challenges.
[00:07:56.280]We are gonna have a total about 30 challenges
[00:07:59.010]so students can expect
[00:08:00.480]to get really busy on Saturday with the challenges.
[00:08:03.300]Should be really fun, really excited. Yeah.
[00:08:06.810]That sounds fantastic.
[00:08:09.060]I wanna kind of zoom out a little bit
[00:08:12.930]and ask why do you think cybersecurity is such a critical,
[00:08:17.670]I think we all know that it's critical
[00:08:19.530]because we're all trying to protect ourselves online,
[00:08:22.140]but why is it in such demand as a field?
[00:08:26.580]I think it's in big demand
[00:08:28.200]because every place, everywhere, needs security.
[00:08:31.140]Whether, or it needs security protection,
[00:08:33.360]data needs to be encrypted no matter where you are.
[00:08:35.670]Whether it's by personally identifiable information
[00:08:40.350]or just anything that's very sensitive needs to be secured
[00:08:43.860]and there needs to be a correct way of handling that
[00:08:46.590]and basically communicating with it.
[00:08:49.650]Yeah, any field just needs some sort of cybersecurity in it
[00:08:52.800]to protect it from outside threats over networks
[00:08:57.810]or just over the internet and anything like that.
[00:08:59.937]And I would like to also add one thing.
[00:09:01.620]You see a lot of data breaches that are happening.
[00:09:03.810]So, especially the medical field, you see a lot
[00:09:07.080]of people targeting ransomware towards the medical field
[00:09:09.630]to try and shut down the systems.
[00:09:12.000]This goes to show how really important cybersecurity is
[00:09:14.220]'cause if you can shut down a medical environment
[00:09:16.800]for two days, that is really dangerous
[00:09:18.930]and a lot of lives can be lost.
[00:09:20.880]So, with cybersecurity being, you know, really important,
[00:09:24.150]we need to defend those systems
[00:09:25.980]and make it so that this attack never happens
[00:09:28.440]in the first place.
[00:09:29.700]So, cybersecurity can really save lives,
[00:09:31.410]if you look at it from, really, an outside field,
[00:09:34.080]especially like in the medical field, you know,
[00:09:36.510]there's the financial field as well.
[00:09:38.730]You wanna protect against breaches
[00:09:42.150]with people's credit cards and information.
[00:09:44.040]So, you don't want that fraud to happen.
[00:09:46.020]So, cybersecurity really applies, you know,
[00:09:48.306]and you see these attacks happening on a daily basis.
[00:09:49.980]So, it is really more important now than ever.
[00:09:52.950]And backing off of that as well,
[00:09:54.360]not just like medical field
[00:09:56.400]or financial field, just any critical infrastructure
[00:09:59.217]is always being targeted by data breaches.
[00:10:01.560]In the past we've seen...
[00:10:05.250]What was I saying?
[00:10:06.083]We've seen like national gas lines being targeted
[00:10:09.930]by ransomware attacks or breaches and stuff like that.
[00:10:13.530]And we've seen school systems face the same thing.
[00:10:16.260]We've had, actually, what was it?
[00:10:17.760]Last year, a school system
[00:10:19.770]that had to close down because of ransomware
[00:10:22.110]and they didn't have control over any of their data.
[00:10:25.050]Nothing worked.
[00:10:26.310]And so they actually asked the kids to stay home for a day
[00:10:29.610]or two until they got everything back online.
[00:10:32.130]So, it hits multiple systems in ways that are hard
[00:10:36.570]to predict, but we all need that kind of protection
[00:10:40.050]to minimize everything.
[00:10:42.720]All right.
[00:10:43.770]Yeah.
[00:10:44.790]So, what advice would you give to high school students
[00:10:47.310]who are maybe interested
[00:10:48.360]in pursuing a career in cybersecurity?
[00:10:51.120]I would say my biggest advice is start early.
[00:10:54.090]Do your research, explore the areas
[00:10:56.280]that you think you're interested in.
[00:10:58.680]In high school, if I would give one advice
[00:11:00.390]to myself back in high school is I would try
[00:11:02.760]and get into Capture the Flag competitions.
[00:11:05.280]These competitions really boosted my skill
[00:11:07.950]more than anything in cybersecurity.
[00:11:10.020]They will put you in that practical environment
[00:11:11.820]and get you set up.
[00:11:13.020]So, what I would recommend is look for open gyms
[00:11:15.750]that are open 24/7 for CTFs, practice some challenges,
[00:11:19.530]you know, if there are some aspects you're,
[00:11:21.510]for example, you're interested
[00:11:22.343]in cracking passwords, for example.
[00:11:24.480]Do some research on that.
[00:11:25.590]You can find a lot of cool things on that
[00:11:27.900]and then maybe you can network into other different things.
[00:11:31.200]So, if you wanna build your own home lab,
[00:11:33.060]that could pique the interest in there, for example.
[00:11:36.007]Keep your mind open and, you know, do your research.
[00:11:39.030]If you're interested in something, make sure to look it up
[00:11:41.340]and really try and look into
[00:11:43.260]those Capture the Flag competitions.
[00:11:45.623]I mean, I completely agree with you.
[00:11:47.820]I'd say always just try to learn something new.
[00:11:51.960]Or go try find different categories of cybersecurity
[00:11:55.113]that you would find interesting
[00:11:56.580]or that you could see yourself doing for a career
[00:11:59.640]and just start learning more about it.
[00:12:02.160]Some parts, like some aspects
[00:12:04.080]of cybersecurity you may not like.
[00:12:05.760]Like when it comes to me, I don't like doing
[00:12:10.860]any kinda like attack or like red-teaming things.
[00:12:13.290]I more like to do policy compliance
[00:12:16.110]and like risk compliance and stuff like that.
[00:12:19.470]So, find an aspect of cybersecurity
[00:12:21.180]that you could see yourself doing as a career
[00:12:24.660]and kind of try to stick with it
[00:12:25.677]and learn as much as you can about it.
[00:12:28.680]That's great.
[00:12:29.857]And so we talked about what kids can do
[00:12:32.430]or what students can do,
[00:12:33.690]how can teachers in school better support students
[00:12:36.450]who are interested in exploring cybersecurity?
[00:12:39.480]So, what's your message to teachers and principals
[00:12:42.690]and, you know, curriculum specialists?
[00:12:45.990]I would say try and introduce as much activities
[00:12:48.390]as you can with cyber to your students.
[00:12:50.400]So, if you find a CTF
[00:12:53.040]that you think they might be interested in, you know,
[00:12:55.800]absolutely let them participate in that.
[00:12:57.780]When we participate in a lot
[00:12:59.100]of those national/international CTFs, we actually see a lot
[00:13:01.770]of high schools in there.
[00:13:03.720]So you know, for teachers I would recommend, you know,
[00:13:06.690]trying to do your research into that event,
[00:13:08.460]into events like that and, you know,
[00:13:10.530]maybe sign up a team for those events.
[00:13:13.350]I would also say probably network
[00:13:15.000]with different organizations across Omaha and Nebraska.
[00:13:18.780]There's a lot of people that offer cybersecurity insight.
[00:13:21.660]So, we as Nullify, have been trying to connect
[00:13:23.790]with schools across the Omaha
[00:13:25.800]and Lincoln area to, you know,
[00:13:27.510]talk about cyber-awareness to their students.
[00:13:30.720]There's a lot of other organizations
[00:13:32.130]in Omaha that also do that.
[00:13:33.600]So, I know ISC2 is a big chapter here in Omaha
[00:13:37.200]that they do, I think every two months
[00:13:39.330]they have a cybersecurity awareness talk.
[00:13:41.430]Different presenters will come and give different topics.
[00:13:44.340]I went to their meeting last week,
[00:13:45.480]it was really fun and I learned a lot.
[00:13:47.730]So, I would say just try
[00:13:48.810]and network with those different organizations
[00:13:50.700]and, you know, introduce your students
[00:13:53.310]to those professionals and just build that network there,
[00:13:56.100]pique their interest in cybersecurity.
[00:13:58.440]It can be really fun.
[00:13:59.623]I also recommend
[00:14:00.570]just try like if you have any STEM-oriented
[00:14:02.853]like oriented clubs or like classes,
[00:14:05.280]whether it's like robotics or something similar,
[00:14:07.470]try to incorporate cybersecurity topics within those clubs
[00:14:10.920]or within like any pure science classes.
[00:14:13.380]Whether it's like getting into
[00:14:14.670]like a little bit of like password cracking
[00:14:17.010]or just like some intro-level cybersecurity topics
[00:14:20.910]that you think the kids would enjoy
[00:14:22.710]and could actually like learn.
[00:14:24.630]So, you mentioned you've been speaking
[00:14:26.460]with some classes about cybersecurity topics
[00:14:29.610]from across the Omaha and Lincoln area.
[00:14:31.620]Is that something that teachers from outside
[00:14:34.830]of those areas can also take advantage of?
[00:14:38.280]Absolutely. We can definitely make something work.
[00:14:40.110]So, we are more than happy to come in and give a talk
[00:14:43.680]to your school and your students about cybersecurity.
[00:14:46.170]What we do at our club, things we see, you know,
[00:14:49.860]we had one about two weeks ago
[00:14:52.560]and it was like an hour-long discussion.
[00:14:54.600]It was really fun.
[00:14:56.070]We chatted about cybersecurity,
[00:14:57.320]we really delved into RFID, amongst other things.
[00:15:00.810]So, it was really fun.
[00:15:02.340]But yes, absolutely, we are open to connect with you
[00:15:05.820]and talk to your students about different things
[00:15:07.400]in cybersecurity, we will have to probably,
[00:15:10.710]if it's a three-hour compute, for example,
[00:15:13.060]we'll have to plan it ahead and schedule
[00:15:15.090]so we can just make some arrangements to work with that.
[00:15:20.675]Awesome. So, how can they get in touch with you?
[00:15:23.160]So, the best way is reach me by my email.
[00:15:25.800]So, my email is zkakish,
[00:15:28.590]that's Z-K-A-K-I-S-H @unomaha.edu.
[00:15:34.410]So, this is the best way to get in touch with me.
[00:15:37.590]I always check my UNO emails, you know,
[00:15:40.530]with classes I have to check them. (laughs)
[00:15:42.660]So, I also use that for other professional things.
[00:15:45.780]So, one of them is HSCTF
[00:15:47.430]and talking to students across the different
[00:15:50.010]schools in Omaha and Lincoln.
[00:15:52.140]So, that's the best way to reach out to me.
[00:15:55.290]Alternatively, we have our website nullify.uno.
[00:16:00.864]We have a Contact Us page where you can send an email
[00:16:03.510]to our official Nullify email.
[00:16:05.910]We're still working on actually setting that up fully
[00:16:08.520]because we've had a few issues in the past
[00:16:11.640]just with setting up an Outlook email and such.
[00:16:14.280]But we get those emails,
[00:16:16.200]but the best way to contact me is through me,
[00:16:18.540]and if not, there's also that Nullify website
[00:16:22.050]and contact email.
[00:16:23.850]All right, well, thank you so much for joining us today.
[00:16:26.820]We really appreciate you taking the time.
[00:16:29.610]Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for having us on the podcast.
[00:16:31.830]It was fun.
[00:16:32.700]All right. Wow, that was great.
[00:16:34.920]I really appreciate them taking the time to talk to us.
[00:16:38.340]Super cool learning that they're not only working on
[00:16:42.810]teaching people about cybersecurity in their university,
[00:16:46.020]but they're also expanding out.
[00:16:48.000]So, if anyone wants them to come talk
[00:16:50.760]to their students about cybersecurity,
[00:16:52.500]even just to like give students a little intro
[00:16:54.990]into what cybersecurity is, definitely hit them up.
[00:16:57.750]Even if you're not anywhere close to the metro area,
[00:17:00.840]they will do virtual meetings as well.
[00:17:04.290]So, definitely hit them up.
[00:17:06.150]And what I learned,
[00:17:07.800]because, for me, most of this is new,
[00:17:09.810]what I learned is that cybersecurity
[00:17:13.860]is a field that is emerging.
[00:17:16.080]It seems like AI is not solving that.
[00:17:18.600]And there's a need to a tremendous number of professionals.
[00:17:22.500]And obviously, because every organization
[00:17:25.050]that has an online presence needs somebody
[00:17:27.450]to help them with that.
[00:17:28.410]Whether they're hiring it from the outside
[00:17:30.600]or they're hiring internally,
[00:17:32.250]there are lots of jobs in that area
[00:17:34.140]and it's an area where we can help channel kids.
[00:17:37.650]And what I love about the Capture the Flag events
[00:17:41.370]is it's making it fun.
[00:17:43.200]And they actually talked about the fact that part
[00:17:45.750]of their goal with Nullify is making sure people
[00:17:48.240]are having fun.
[00:17:49.470]Because my worry is all these people
[00:17:51.090]hear about cybersecurity and they're thinking,
[00:17:53.550]you know, "Is this what I wanna be excited about
[00:17:56.820]or do I wanna make a game?"
[00:17:58.320]And it sounds like there's actually great opportunities
[00:18:01.500]to do important work, but also to really challenge yourself.
[00:18:05.700]And that's, again, an opportunity for students.
[00:18:08.640]There's definitely career paths.
[00:18:10.590]And so I was super happy to hear
[00:18:13.110]that students at the undergraduate level are getting engaged
[00:18:17.130]in getting other people interested and connecting them
[00:18:21.750]because I think you and I, as teachers,
[00:18:24.510]can always talk about things,
[00:18:25.980]but when somebody who's much closer, who's just a couple
[00:18:28.500]of years removed from high school is talking
[00:18:31.920]and saying, "This is exciting,
[00:18:33.330]you want to do this," that's considerably more relevant.
[00:18:38.582](upbeat music)
[00:18:39.415]We listen. (laughs) Yes.
[00:18:42.660]And so, this was a great opportunity
[00:18:45.390]to talk, once again, about cybersecurity
[00:18:47.700]and we'll see you next time on CS4NE.
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Tech EDGE: CS4NE with Special Guests, Zaid Kakish and Tom Knudsen from Nullify at UNO

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