Not That Kind of Doctor - Season 3 Kickoff: Summer Chaos & Fall Semester Goals
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In this episode of Not That Kind of Doctor, Nick and Guy catch up after a chaotic summer and gear up for the new semester. Nick shares his adventures with a torn tendon, missing luggage, and the challenges of ChatGPT in his summer class, while Guy reflects on surviving Las Vegas heat and hitting writing goals. They also discuss their fall plans, including Nick’s new oral exams and Guy’s research in arts integration and AI.
Key Takeaways:
Surviving Summer Plans Gone Awry: Nick and Guy share their summer chaos—from tendon injuries to missing luggage.
ChatGPT Drama: How AI complicated Nick’s children’s literature course.
Fall Semester Goals: From oral exams to grad student mentoring, they’re setting new academic priorities.
Cinnamon Roll Explosion: Their metaphor for the sudden summer chaos that academics know all too well.
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- [00:00:00.308](upbeat music)
- [00:00:10.530]Believe it or not.
- [00:00:12.390]We're here.
- [00:00:13.620]We're here.
- [00:00:14.972]Are we here? Season three.
- [00:00:16.920]Yes.
- [00:00:18.300]Yes.
- [00:00:19.133]So thanks for being in one of the longest relationships
- [00:00:21.210]I've ever had.
- [00:00:23.160]I greatly appreciate you, 'cause
- [00:00:26.850]I can be a lot.
- [00:00:28.175](Guy laughing)
- [00:00:30.150]It's good to be back.
- [00:00:31.410]It's good to be back on campus.
- [00:00:33.120]I mean, it's good to be back, kind of.
- [00:00:38.370]Like, I wish...
- [00:00:40.260]Yeah.
- [00:00:43.530]I wish there was another week or two.
- [00:00:48.030]Just because,
- [00:00:51.000]sometimes your summer plans don't go
- [00:00:52.830]the way you want them to.
- [00:00:54.270]And that was my summer. So true.
- [00:00:55.683]Ooh. So, I wish
- [00:00:56.940]I would've had just one or two more weeks
- [00:00:58.680]where I could have just,
- [00:01:01.290]settled down, got some of the stuff
- [00:01:03.450]that I didn't get done done.
- [00:01:04.980]But it's fine. We're back.
- [00:01:06.630]It's the reality.
- [00:01:08.790]Gotta deal with it.
- [00:01:09.623]The part that I love is that there are students back.
- [00:01:13.830]So, Yes.
- [00:01:14.663]I don't feel so lonely when I walk down the corridor.
- [00:01:18.900]The place is humming, there's the sense of activity.
- [00:01:22.050]This is why we exist.
- [00:01:23.580]I mean, we do research, we do service.
- [00:01:25.380]But, students is why we're here.
- [00:01:27.420]The majority of my time is students, right?
- [00:01:29.590]Like, is teaching.
- [00:01:31.770]Welcome to season three of "Not That Kinda Doctor."
- [00:01:34.890]I'm Nick Husbye, I'm an associate professor here at UNL.
- [00:01:38.250]And I'm Guy Trainin,
- [00:01:39.390]a professor here at Teaching Learning and Teacher Education
- [00:01:42.840]at UNL.
- [00:01:43.950]Oh, gotta show me up,
- [00:01:45.210]don't ya? Yes, yes, I do.
- [00:01:47.280]Also, I'm just impressed with how easy that came back.
- [00:01:50.220]Like, oh, I have to do an introduction, right.
- [00:01:53.220]Certain things, certain things just don't go away.
- [00:01:55.770]So, we're here to talk about
- [00:01:58.440]how you spent your summer vacation.
- [00:02:00.690]Just a quick, quick little catch up.
- [00:02:03.270]So, going back to our summer episode,
- [00:02:07.350]vacation is not the word I would use for myself.
- [00:02:12.247]I have taught quite extensively.
- [00:02:15.390]I had two very intensive weeks of teaching.
- [00:02:19.950]So there's the ramp up into teaching, there's teaching,
- [00:02:22.590]and after that there was a lot of research happening.
- [00:02:25.740]So, a lot of writing,
- [00:02:29.160]which was great
- [00:02:29.993]because there are concentrated blocks of time
- [00:02:32.670]where you can sit and write, which is considerably better.
- [00:02:35.460]And there are a number of manuscripts
- [00:02:37.500]that I'm working on with others.
- [00:02:39.180]So it was a good time to also find,
- [00:02:41.520]it's easier in the summer to find joint times if we want to.
- [00:02:44.970]And if everybody is focused on that
- [00:02:47.790]and we can get a lot more done
- [00:02:49.530]because we remember what we did last time
- [00:02:51.330]and you're not always going back and remembering.
- [00:02:54.360]So, a few manuscripts got done.
- [00:02:57.150]I went to two conferences,
- [00:02:59.820]which was delightful, but also stressful.
- [00:03:03.750]Summer conferences in Las Vegas,
- [00:03:06.030]probably not the best choice Ooh, ooh!
- [00:03:08.760]because you felt like you were literally incinerated
- [00:03:12.060]every time you stepped out of.
- [00:03:14.040]It's like a wall of heat.
- [00:03:15.180]Yes. You just, you hit
- [00:03:16.170]this wall of heat. Yes.
- [00:03:19.566]And, so, that was an experience, to say the least.
- [00:03:22.500]I don't remember being, since I came here,
- [00:03:25.380]so, when I moved to Nebraska from California,
- [00:03:28.470]we drove through Vegas
- [00:03:30.030]because we were in Southern California.
- [00:03:31.890]And I think that's the last time I ever was
- [00:03:34.530]in Vegas in the summer.
- [00:03:36.360]That's 22 years ago.
- [00:03:37.800]So, you know, it has not gotten any better.
- [00:03:40.230]No. I think a little worse.
- [00:03:42.360]It's only gonna get worse
- [00:03:43.650]according to any news programming that you watch
- [00:03:47.310]or read. Although,
- [00:03:48.143]I don't know if we can
- [00:03:48.976]really tell the difference between 110, and 115 or 120.
- [00:03:53.796]I don't know. I don't wanna find out.
- [00:03:54.720]That's not a question
- [00:03:55.553]that I'm particularly interested in answering.
- [00:03:57.720]Yes. So, so I did those things.
- [00:04:02.523]And then I wrote a grant
- [00:04:03.990]that eventually had to be scrapped.
- [00:04:06.570]So that was a lovely experience.
- [00:04:09.064]Okay.
- [00:04:12.420]And then I spent time with my granddaughter.
- [00:04:14.662]I have a new granddaughter,
- [00:04:16.200]and whenever the opportunity came,
- [00:04:18.840]we spent time together and that was lovely.
- [00:04:22.860]Delightful.
- [00:04:23.693]Yes.
- [00:04:24.526]Mazel.
- [00:04:25.393]It is. Thank you.
- [00:04:26.226]Huh.
- [00:04:27.120]It sounds like
- [00:04:30.330]your summer went kinda to plan.
- [00:04:35.130]Yes, although my plans are always looser than yours.
- [00:04:40.248]Ooh, that's shade.
- [00:04:42.210]No, no shade.
- [00:04:43.560]I just kind of a little bit go with the flow
- [00:04:46.860]and so, there was more room to maneuver
- [00:04:51.420]and see who wants to participate.
- [00:04:53.280]I did have two doctoral students working with me all summer,
- [00:04:57.300]so that helps as well.
- [00:04:59.250]And that creates commitments
- [00:05:00.960]and a series of approachable goals.
- [00:05:03.390]But we actually met writing goals,
- [00:05:05.400]I think for the first time in our life.
- [00:05:06.960]we actually had a date and we
- [00:05:09.120]submitted by the date, Nice.
- [00:05:10.652]and that was a lot of work.
- [00:05:13.620]And we got there.
- [00:05:15.150]So, very happy. That's awesome.
- [00:05:16.530]Yes.
- [00:05:17.363]'Cause yeah, I did have a fairly substantial plan
- [00:05:20.730]for my summer, but alas dear viewer, he met none of them.
- [00:05:27.000]So yeah, this summer was a little bit
- [00:05:30.634]of a wash for me.
- [00:05:32.280]Not necessarily a wash, things got done.
- [00:05:34.740]But I started the summer with, I tore my tendon.
- [00:05:39.720]Which
- [00:05:41.520]was
- [00:05:43.140]weird.
- [00:05:45.180]According to urgent care, I was walking while old.
- [00:05:48.480]Which was also three days before my birthday.
- [00:05:52.440]Yeah. That's a sign.
- [00:05:53.820]So I was like, oh, does that really?
- [00:05:56.460]What? Oh.
- [00:05:57.360]That just, it hurt.
- [00:05:58.560]It hurt In multiple ways.
- [00:05:59.393]both mentally and physically,
- [00:06:02.010]but, thankfully it was a tendon tear that tore
- [00:06:04.770]like you part curtains, not like a
- [00:06:08.233](Nick grunting)
- [00:06:09.066]tear.
- [00:06:09.899]So I didn't need surgery, that was great.
- [00:06:11.280]But it was a lot of,
- [00:06:14.910]boots are not fun.
- [00:06:17.280]Boots are not great.
- [00:06:19.470]They're not entertaining.
- [00:06:21.390]At all.
- [00:06:22.650]But they do fit in luggage, which can get lost.
- [00:06:25.860]Oh, my God.
- [00:06:27.750]While you're traveling.
- [00:06:28.583]Because you decided to travel while hurt.
- [00:06:30.540]I traveled while booted.
- [00:06:33.510]And then on day three was like,
- [00:06:35.718](Nick groaning)
- [00:06:36.551]I'm not about this life.
- [00:06:37.680]And just trained myself to walk without the boot,
- [00:06:40.830]which was fine.
- [00:06:41.663]Doctor said I could do that.
- [00:06:46.837]They were like, "You can do that for half an hour."
- [00:06:49.650]Oh.
- [00:06:50.483]And I was 16 miles later.
- [00:06:54.990]But it healed fairly well.
- [00:06:56.716]I have a knot, I've got some tendon tape.
- [00:06:59.730]So my trip to Europe was great.
- [00:07:02.040]Had to deal with
- [00:07:02.975]the tendon at first. That's great.
- [00:07:03.808]Trip to Europe was great.
- [00:07:04.830]Came back and then life stuff happened.
- [00:07:10.410]Sometimes it's not even work related,
- [00:07:12.270]it's just out of left field
- [00:07:15.120]and you have to deal with some stuff,
- [00:07:16.440]and stuff gets shifted around, and your bandwidth just,
- [00:07:24.690]it's minimized.
- [00:07:26.700]I've canned some tomatoes, I've made some jam,
- [00:07:30.000]I've done a little bit of writing.
- [00:07:31.830]Oh, all the important things.
- [00:07:33.240]I read some books.
- [00:07:35.700]I taught, I taught a class,
- [00:07:37.620]ChatGPT made that class really hard.
- [00:07:42.930]Why?
- [00:07:43.800]Because if you're going to,
- [00:07:46.500]as a student, submit a reflection essay
- [00:07:50.040]and your reflection essay is coming from ChatGPT
- [00:07:52.230]and you've done no work
- [00:07:54.540]Everything, yeah.
- [00:07:55.620]to ensure that the essay is actually applicable
- [00:07:58.530]to the thing that you're supposed to be reflecting upon,
- [00:08:00.870]that just makes more work for me.
- [00:08:04.350]So that notion of, "Oh, I'm gonna do ChatGPT
- [00:08:06.930]and whatever product it gives me is gonna be fine."
- [00:08:10.530]So it felt like I taught less about children's literature
- [00:08:13.980]and more about,
- [00:08:15.133]AI.
- [00:08:15.966]this is how you use ChatGPT to do this.
- [00:08:17.760]This is fine if you wanna use this as a first draft,
- [00:08:21.630]but it's a first draft.
- [00:08:23.760]You have to go back and fill in the detail
- [00:08:25.739]'cause the ChatGPT doesn't know that.
- [00:08:28.230]And so therefore, it looks you didn't read the book,
- [00:08:31.980]you didn't do anything.
- [00:08:34.980]My favorite AI comment was somebody
- [00:08:37.590]who was talking about AI,
- [00:08:42.389]and I don't remember who it is, so I'm sorry
- [00:08:44.700]for not referencing, maybe if I find it,
- [00:08:47.670]we'll put it in the show notes.
- [00:08:49.230]But, she talked about the fact that
- [00:08:51.630]she needed to give a talk
- [00:08:54.679]in a church, or a synagogue or something.
- [00:08:57.930]And she wanted to do something inspirational.
- [00:09:00.390]So what she did is she went to ChatGPT
- [00:09:02.940]and she asked, she gave specifics,
- [00:09:05.370]and then she wrote exactly not that.
- [00:09:08.670]So she said, "If this is what ChatGPT gets me,
- [00:09:11.520]then anybody has access to that."
- [00:09:13.117]"And that has been repeated so many times,
- [00:09:15.600]I want to have a different angle about this
- [00:09:18.030]that isn't ChatGPT inspired."
- [00:09:20.310]So it's like finding ChatGPT and saying, "Not this."
- [00:09:24.840]As a way to use ChatGPT.
- [00:09:26.580]Great.
- [00:09:27.780]So that was the teaching piece that was a little kooky.
- [00:09:32.460]I've already thought through
- [00:09:33.300]how I'm gonna revise it for the next summer.
- [00:09:35.280]So, I mean, summer, later today I've got,
- [00:09:40.260]I have to sit down and plan out what I'm doing
- [00:09:43.650]with this current semester.
- [00:09:46.080]And so, I'm gonna kinda do a laundry list of,
- [00:09:48.360]here's what didn't get done, here's what you did do.
- [00:09:51.870]So it wasn't a complete wash,
- [00:09:53.130]but it definitely did not go as planned.
- [00:09:55.260]There were just too many things that I could not plan for.
- [00:09:59.080]Yeah, and those are bound to happen,
- [00:10:01.740]and summer is a good time for them to happen.
- [00:10:03.840]I mean, summer is an okay.
- [00:10:04.890]I would rather they not happen at all.
- [00:10:06.990]Yeah.
- [00:10:10.170]Part of what that forced me to realize
- [00:10:12.510]is during the school year,
- [00:10:15.450]during the academic year, I think part of what happens is,
- [00:10:19.110]we were talking about bottlenecks
- [00:10:20.250]before we started shooting.
- [00:10:21.930]And, I think sometimes
- [00:10:26.190]the intensity of what we have to do during the academic year
- [00:10:31.170]puts off other stuff.
- [00:10:32.970]And so, in the summer it's like...
- [00:10:35.970]Kind of train wreck into it.
- [00:10:38.160]Also, to call back to a conversation we had before camera,
- [00:10:40.560]which makes no sense.
- [00:10:41.393]So I'm gonna try to explain this as best as I can.
- [00:10:42.990]Dan, chime in if I'm gonna miss this,
- [00:10:46.500]'cause I'm gonna bring it back to a metaphor.
- [00:10:49.290]But it's kind of like, during the academic year,
- [00:10:53.190]you are that roll of Pillsbury Cinnamon Buns
- [00:10:59.310]that you have to twist and then they explode.
- [00:11:02.310]So summer is when you explode?
- [00:11:03.537]And so, summer is like,
- [00:11:05.310]sometimes when Yeah.
- [00:11:06.143]you're like, "Oh, I have time to do things."
- [00:11:08.340]That's the twist and it just explodes everywhere.
- [00:11:12.450]And it just creates problems.
- [00:11:16.320]You're under pressure all academic year.
- [00:11:19.140]And then, once you have kind of the time in the space
- [00:11:21.660]to do some other stuff, the twist happens and it goes, boo.
- [00:11:25.770]Yes.
- [00:11:26.790]And it fills all the space.
- [00:11:28.410]And it fills all the space.
- [00:11:29.640]And it's also like, those cinnamon buns are never as pretty
- [00:11:34.050]as they say they should be.
- [00:11:36.810]Which is disappointing, but, you know, whatever.
- [00:11:40.496]So one of my actual goals for this academic year
- [00:11:43.470]is to be thinking about where are the spaces
- [00:11:47.550]where I can relieve some of those pressures?
- [00:11:50.370]Whether it's physical pressure, 'cause my tendon tear
- [00:11:54.750]was because I wasn't taking care of myself
- [00:11:58.470]as well physically as I should have been.
- [00:12:02.040]So how do I do that a little bit better?
- [00:12:04.560]Et cetera, et cetera.
- [00:12:06.510]That's got me into some of the goals
- [00:12:08.490]that I'm setting for myself
- [00:12:10.620]for this upcoming semester.
- [00:12:12.090]And part of what I'm doing this semester
- [00:12:14.010]is working with graduate students who are teaching.
- [00:12:18.900]And there's about five of them.
- [00:12:21.090]And one of the things that I preempted
- [00:12:24.150]is when you're planning this semester,
- [00:12:27.150]how can we plan that you have time to think, time to be,
- [00:12:32.970]and because you are graduate students,
- [00:12:34.620]you're not just teaching a class or two,
- [00:12:36.600]you're also supposed to make progress.
- [00:12:39.210]How do you make sure that this teaching is part of your time
- [00:12:42.570]and does not swallow all of your time?
- [00:12:45.540]And all the decisions around them
- [00:12:48.270]and give them license to rethink what they're doing
- [00:12:52.530]instead of taking somebody else's syllabus
- [00:12:56.010]and then adding five things.
- [00:12:57.660]And I'm like, this is
- [00:12:58.947]not gonna work out. Never gonna work.
- [00:13:00.543]This barely works for whoever that person is.
- [00:13:05.441](Guy laughing)
- [00:13:07.020]Or somebody else, one of our other colleagues.
- [00:13:10.800]But you can take somebody else's syllabus and add to it
- [00:13:14.220]because they don't have room in their syllabus.
- [00:13:17.940]They do a fantastic job.
- [00:13:19.350]So if you are doing 100%
- [00:13:21.180]and you add another 20% to it.
- [00:13:23.044]What are you saying about my syllabus here, Guy?
- [00:13:24.750]What am I saying?
- [00:13:25.590]Your syllabus is full.
- [00:13:27.390]That is, you do not have a clear minute in your syllabus,
- [00:13:31.830]which is fine.
- [00:13:32.663]You want to use, Oh, yeah.
- [00:13:33.496]you want to teach.
- [00:13:35.586]I would like to revise that.
- [00:13:36.750]I make good use of
- [00:13:39.480]Every minute.
- [00:13:40.313]every minute that I am given Yeah.
- [00:13:41.820]as an educator. Yes.
- [00:13:43.050]Because, one, students are paying for that.
- [00:13:45.407]Yes.
- [00:13:46.240]Students are taking on enormous amounts of debt
- [00:13:47.073]to be teachers.
- [00:13:47.906]And so, it's my responsibility to make sure
- [00:13:49.860]that I'm giving them a quality product.
- [00:13:51.840]For sure.
- [00:13:52.800]But, I've also been doing this for a very long time.
- [00:13:57.720]Exactly.
- [00:14:00.870]I know where the efficiencies are.
- [00:14:02.760]Absolutely.
- [00:14:03.593]And also, taking that,
- [00:14:05.670]and you couldn't add another 20% to that
- [00:14:08.640]with three new assignments or four new assignments.
- [00:14:11.580]It would be too much.
- [00:14:12.413]No, and actually, I took away,
- [00:14:15.600]I'm teaching lit block again this summer
- [00:14:18.240]or this this fall.
- [00:14:19.920]And one of the things that I did was I reduced assignments
- [00:14:24.270]and actually moved toward, in the age of ChatGPT,
- [00:14:30.360]I don't want to have to do what I did
- [00:14:32.280]with children's literature
- [00:14:33.240]and reverse engineer these things.
- [00:14:36.644]And so, I've gone to oral exams.
- [00:14:42.697]Okay. Yes.
- [00:14:44.370]Which is going to be really interesting.
- [00:14:45.690]It's the first time I'm playing around with it,
- [00:14:50.160]and we'll see how that works.
- [00:14:53.820]But, yeah, it's that notion of,
- [00:14:56.730]we don't have infinite time to teach
- [00:15:01.380]and all of the discourse around teaching is,
- [00:15:03.607]"Oh, you do whatever you can to help."
- [00:15:05.550]No, I will be a learner centered instructor,
- [00:15:09.120]but I need my students to be learning centered students.
- [00:15:12.386]Yes.
- [00:15:13.219]Right.
- [00:15:14.052]So, there has to be that combination
- [00:15:15.060]'cause neither of us has unlimited resources.
- [00:15:18.180]Absolutely.
- [00:15:20.610]That mirrors the discussions I've had.
- [00:15:22.440]It's like, you cannot take full responsibility
- [00:15:25.620]as the instructor for everything that happens.
- [00:15:27.690]Students must take responsibility.
- [00:15:29.550]And that has to be part of the plan
- [00:15:31.530]and made explicit to them.
- [00:15:33.180]Here are the expectations.
- [00:15:34.770]This is the amount of time, you've taught me this.
- [00:15:37.920]Talk explicitly.
- [00:15:39.090]This is the amount of out of class time
- [00:15:41.250]this is going to take.
- [00:15:43.350]You have to think about your life.
- [00:15:44.820]You have to think about your priorities
- [00:15:46.590]and you've gotta make sure there's enough time
- [00:15:48.480]if your goal is to become a teacher.
- [00:15:51.690]This is what it's gonna take.
- [00:15:53.280]And so, yes, there's a lot of planning.
- [00:15:55.170]I think, we'll get back to ideas around planning throughout.
- [00:15:59.670]Because we always discuss how do you plan,
- [00:16:03.420]and how do you reach your goals,
- [00:16:05.340]and how do you give yourself grace
- [00:16:06.810]to not meet your goals if life comes in the middle?
- [00:16:10.590]And, I love that idea of the slow release,
- [00:16:13.920]making sure there's enough,
- [00:16:17.579]in the grant that we have, we talk about having enough air
- [00:16:20.850]so things can develop and things have time.
- [00:16:24.240]And it's not always pressure.
- [00:16:26.160]Because it's really easy to put ourselves
- [00:16:28.020]under constant pressure.
- [00:16:29.310]It's part of our culture, it's the hustle, it's all of that.
- [00:16:32.040]We gotta make sure there's enough room for us to be
- [00:16:35.490]and not just to wait breathlessly for summer
- [00:16:38.100]because that's really not productive.
- [00:16:41.310]No, that's not productive at all,
- [00:16:44.880]'cause once you hit summer, it does feel like
- [00:16:47.730]your structure or,
- [00:16:52.020]all that pressure just kind of explodes.
- [00:16:55.680]Or let's go and then you've kind of fell apart.
- [00:16:57.750]And that's what I'm trying to avoid.
- [00:17:00.310]That's I'm trying to avoid. And I like that. All right.
- [00:17:02.280]So, that kinda loops into,
- [00:17:05.520]what did you read this summer?
- [00:17:07.800]Well.
- [00:17:08.633]That made you happy, that you've been thinking about.
- [00:17:10.120]That made me happy.
- [00:17:10.953]Or it didn't make you happy.
- [00:17:11.786]Maybe you have a book
- [00:17:12.690]or two that didn't make you happy.
- [00:17:14.507]I have a few books that I dumped in the middle
- [00:17:16.950]because it was just not interesting enough.
- [00:17:19.500]I did read Kara Swisher's "Burn Book," which I enjoyed.
- [00:17:23.490]It was very short, which I appreciated.
- [00:17:27.720]I like her voice when she writes
- [00:17:31.020]and kind of the view, the more realistic view of tech,
- [00:17:36.420]not hope, not anti, not for, just, this is what it is.
- [00:17:42.798]And so, I enjoyed that very much.
- [00:17:44.520]I went back to reading Annie Duke's "Thinking In Beds."
- [00:17:49.170]It's a book I go back to every few years,
- [00:17:54.450]every two, three years I go back to it.
- [00:17:57.000]I think it's a delightful book.
- [00:18:00.450]Psychology doctoral student turned poker player,
- [00:18:03.660]turned author, and then she went back to finish her PhD,
- [00:18:07.500]which was interesting.
- [00:18:10.140]Now, I think she wrote the second book.
- [00:18:13.200]I didn't get to it.
- [00:18:14.220]But, I do like that book because it talks about risk,
- [00:18:17.520]taking risk.
- [00:18:20.130]Nate Silver just came out with his book.
- [00:18:22.020]I was just gonna say, that feels very Nate Silver-isk.
- [00:18:24.330]Yes, but, she's a better writer than Nate.
- [00:18:27.180]No shade on Nate.
- [00:18:28.680]I really Nate Silver. Don't come for us, Nate.
- [00:18:30.750]But,
- [00:18:32.700]he tends to ponder too much
- [00:18:39.498]and go to extremes in some ways that I don't appreciate.
- [00:18:44.759]And he's just too long, "Thinking In Beds" was shorter.
- [00:18:47.580]I mean, there's a point where, okay, we get your point.
- [00:18:50.970]Let's move on.
- [00:18:52.170]Do we need all of these extra chapters?
- [00:18:54.390]And so, I loved, for example, "The Signal And The Noise,"
- [00:18:57.390]but, could have had far five more less chapters
- [00:19:00.360]and I would've been fine.
- [00:19:02.100]The point would've been made.
- [00:19:03.540]So I read those two,
- [00:19:04.530]and then "Nicked," which was a delightful mystery
- [00:19:09.690]on stealing
- [00:19:13.077]the corpse of St. Nick's,
- [00:19:17.160]based on a true story.
- [00:19:18.870]Oh, who?
- [00:19:19.703]It's delightful.
- [00:19:20.850]That's actually on my TV read pile.
- [00:19:22.440]Yes.
- [00:19:23.273]So, that's worth, it's a short, quick, delightful read.
- [00:19:27.210]And then, "China Rich Girl,"
- [00:19:29.730]which is the continuation for "Crazy Rich Asians."
- [00:19:33.030]I have not dealt with any of that.
- [00:19:34.814]I find it how fascinating it is to be fascinated
- [00:19:40.824]by rich people and they're crazy endeavors.
- [00:19:44.670]So I found that delightful.
- [00:19:46.854](Nick chuckling)
- [00:19:49.500]Okay. Well.
- [00:19:50.333]And I'm gonna read the next one,
- [00:19:51.840]but I'm starting to think about how many of these
- [00:19:54.150]do I read before I'm kind of, "Okay, I get it."
- [00:19:57.270]But right now I'm having fun, so I'm 100% in, I'm all in.
- [00:20:01.050]Well it's kinda like,
- [00:20:03.840]I think the closest book I've gotten to a like a
- [00:20:05.632]"Rich Crazy Asians" was "Pineapple Street."
- [00:20:10.380]Jennifer, what is her name?
- [00:20:12.270]Her last name. It'll come to me.
- [00:20:13.740]Yeah.
- [00:20:15.240]But it was an interesting take on the,
- [00:20:18.450]I find that I am not in love with,
- [00:20:20.917]"Okay, you're over-resourced, let's make up a problem."
- [00:20:27.576]Ah,
- [00:20:30.690]it doesn't pull me.
- [00:20:31.860]But "Pineapple Street" was interesting
- [00:20:34.980]in its take on that.
- [00:20:36.942]It was a different space.
- [00:20:40.110]But,
- [00:20:41.910]I feel I read maybe more.
- [00:20:45.600]Have you read "The Anxious Generation?"
- [00:20:48.000]No, I'm not interested in those things.
- [00:20:50.010]I always find the argument's ridiculous
- [00:20:52.830]and probably should be best summarized
- [00:20:54.930]by two to three pages.
- [00:20:57.120]And so, I'm like, do I need to read the full story on that
- [00:20:59.790]or can I read the back jacket and move on with my life?
- [00:21:02.940]I mean, I don't know that you can with this one.
- [00:21:04.770]Jonathan Haight, yes, there's some things
- [00:21:07.530]that are not necessarily backed up.
- [00:21:10.980]Some of the argumentation is a little bit
- [00:21:14.040]Weaker than other bits.
- [00:21:15.450]Yes.
- [00:21:16.283]But, I found it
- [00:21:20.370]fascinating in how he constructs this argument
- [00:21:26.070]about what technology has done
- [00:21:30.060]to our ability to kind of tolerate anxiety.
- [00:21:37.380]And how caregiver's interactions with technology,
- [00:21:42.240]keeping in mind that technology is cheaper than childcare.
- [00:21:47.325]You can get an iPad for a fixed amount
- [00:21:50.670]and give it to your kid and you can get stuff done.
- [00:21:54.360]And parenting is hard, I totally get that.
- [00:22:00.930]In our current context, how you may have to do that,
- [00:22:05.250]but, what are kinda the costs of that, right?
- [00:22:08.310]What happens when we live in this embodied world,
- [00:22:12.360]one of his arguments is that we live in this embodied world,
- [00:22:15.870]but, kids, because they live in these virtual worlds
- [00:22:20.670]so early and so often, and for such long periods of time,
- [00:22:24.960]don't know what to do in those embodied worlds.
- [00:22:27.660]Yes.
- [00:22:28.493]Necessarily.
- [00:22:29.464]And it's this idea of convenience
- [00:22:33.510]and how caregivers do so much to shield kids
- [00:22:40.170]from anything that could be considered dangerous,
- [00:22:44.490]quote unquote.
- [00:22:45.450]And how that definition of danger gets mitigated
- [00:22:48.330]with technology and around how anxiety
- [00:22:51.810]is not necessarily a bad thing in particular measure.
- [00:22:58.886]When is it kind of appropriate
- [00:23:02.580]to feel anxiety versus when are you just feeling anxiety
- [00:23:05.970]for anxiety's sake because you can't roll with a punch?
- [00:23:11.220]Because in a virtual world
- [00:23:12.510]most things play out in an algorithmic space.
- [00:23:16.140]And so, that makes sense.
- [00:23:17.220]So, it was an interesting read.
- [00:23:21.090]And it was a lot about caregivers,
- [00:23:22.950]and particularly children.
- [00:23:24.150]But it was also interesting from like a
- [00:23:28.830]for me perspective, living in the moment that I did,
- [00:23:39.240]I didn't grow up in social media.
- [00:23:42.150]It wasn't everywhere.
- [00:23:44.250]I was a beta user of Twitter.
- [00:23:46.800]I was one of the first 100 people.
- [00:23:49.470]I don't use it anymore for multiple reasons.
- [00:23:55.470]It's interesting what's happened
- [00:23:56.850]as the social media has has just kind of exploded.
- [00:24:01.860]And I think about it.
- [00:24:03.360]So, one is, I do want to mention
- [00:24:06.150]the most both annoying and delightful podcast
- [00:24:10.440]that I'll listen to,
- [00:24:11.640]that I started listening to this summer,
- [00:24:13.740]which connects to that.
- [00:24:14.917]"If Books Could Kill?"
- [00:24:15.757]"If Books Could Kill."
- [00:24:16.590]Yeah, I do like "If Books Could Kill."
- [00:24:18.240]Although, they sometimes go to far in their critique
- [00:24:23.220]and one of their complaints is that these authors
- [00:24:26.670]do not check their work sometimes,
- [00:24:29.010]however, they don't check their work either.
- [00:24:31.170]So, it's just like...
- [00:24:32.103]It's a vicious cycle.
- [00:24:33.330]It's a vicious cycle where you are saying things
- [00:24:35.550]that actually aren't true in critique of books
- [00:24:39.060]that also make mistakes.
- [00:24:45.856]I have two thoughts that always get me riled up
- [00:24:49.380]against some of these.
- [00:24:50.280]I hate generational arguments.
- [00:24:52.620]I just, this thing about
- [00:24:54.570]generational alpha versus this, versus that.
- [00:24:57.750]And this stems from the fact that we all struggle,
- [00:25:02.100]for example, with social media.
- [00:25:04.170]Is it really that much worse for teens?
- [00:25:06.930]Maybe.
- [00:25:07.763]But I think for people in their 20's,
- [00:25:09.750]I don't think it's any better.
- [00:25:12.000]Right?
- [00:25:12.833]And so, I am interested in that aspect of that as well.
- [00:25:19.050]So, I'm finding the generational argument
- [00:25:22.560]the weakest piece there.
- [00:25:24.690]I do find that technology has some danger to it
- [00:25:28.290]and there's certain things we know about it that,
- [00:25:32.400]I would definitely agree.
- [00:25:33.480]I don't think it necessarily needs exactly that book.
- [00:25:36.660]The second piece is that
- [00:25:40.110]I'm really interested in what's happening in other places.
- [00:25:44.220]And talking, I have a Nigerian collaborator, Jeff,
- [00:25:49.620]who's delightful.
- [00:25:51.660]And, the context, there's a lot of technology in Nigeria.
- [00:25:56.580]And a lot of scams that emerge from Nigeria.
- [00:25:59.130]And he's very interested with some of sociologists
- [00:26:02.160]at his university, in looking at how that interacts,
- [00:26:06.360]how that changes relationship.
- [00:26:07.920]So, and what I'm saying is, Nigeria is an example,
- [00:26:10.620]and there are lots of other things happening there.
- [00:26:12.690]But, it's a very different environment
- [00:26:14.970]and many other things are happening there.
- [00:26:18.690]So I am interested in those international comparisons
- [00:26:21.630]and what we can learn there.
- [00:26:23.130]And that's something that I'm just finding
- [00:26:25.740]being stuck in our own context, in our own,
- [00:26:29.280]this is true of continental United States
- [00:26:31.740]and in not even all of it.
- [00:26:34.770]So two points,
- [00:26:35.700]now that we're turning this
- [00:26:36.533]into a technology and anxiety thing.
- [00:26:38.550](Guy laughing)
- [00:26:41.010]One, I think that the generational argument
- [00:26:45.750]is more about packaging and how that works.
- [00:26:48.180]It's easier
- [00:26:49.890]Yes.
- [00:26:50.723]to think about evolution of technology
- [00:26:54.510]and impacts on people in terms of generation.
- [00:26:58.920]Does that necessarily mean, it's a unit of analysis, right?
- [00:27:02.490]Rather than an argument about any particular generation.
- [00:27:05.910]And I think back to the research around Facebook
- [00:27:09.900]and its impact on, particularly,
- [00:27:13.830]middle grade teenage girls, where it was very, very clear
- [00:27:18.630]that it was not beneficial.
- [00:27:20.640]That it actually did harm and that was solid, right?
- [00:27:25.320]Yes.
- [00:27:28.977]I think when it's Gen Z versus Gen X,
- [00:27:32.520]versus Gen Alpha, I don't care,
- [00:27:35.666]that stuff doesn't make any sense to me.
- [00:27:39.330]But as I'm thinking about the evolution
- [00:27:44.940]of what parenting looks like, what caregiving looks like,
- [00:27:48.750]and what becomes acceptable and what doesn't,
- [00:27:52.410]I think that's where that packaging
- [00:27:54.573]becomes somewhat helpful.
- [00:27:59.640]And then, I lost my second point.
- [00:28:01.920]What was my second point?
- [00:28:03.540]Shoot.
- [00:28:04.890]Should've written it down.
- [00:28:06.420]Third day of the first first week of teaching.
- [00:28:08.400]My brain is already melting. All that, yes.
- [00:28:13.470]But, it was, it's been really, really interesting
- [00:28:16.530]to help think through just my own use of technology
- [00:28:22.260]and how Yes, for sure.
- [00:28:25.170]thinking about it as tool not stressor
- [00:28:27.810]has been really, really important.
- [00:28:29.280]The second book that I read this summer, to go back to it,
- [00:28:32.310]was Carl or Cal not Carl, Cal Newport's "Slow Productivity,"
- [00:28:38.580]which was also delightful.
- [00:28:42.960]Some parts of it.
- [00:28:44.190]I mean, Cal Newport, "Deep Work."
- [00:28:46.260]You know?
- [00:28:47.356]Yeah. Yeah.
- [00:28:48.537]And needed to write the next book.
- [00:28:50.430]He needed to write the next book.
- [00:28:53.891]And the contract, yes.
- [00:28:54.724]There were really some interesting things around,
- [00:28:59.190]I didn't like it as much as I liked "Happier Hour."
- [00:29:01.830]Okay.
- [00:29:02.663]But, I really thought his focus in on,
- [00:29:09.360]I loved how he talked about limitations.
- [00:29:13.860]I loved how he talked about,
- [00:29:15.900]look, you don't have unlimited time,
- [00:29:18.780]you don't have unlimited resources.
- [00:29:21.270]So when I'm talking about slow productivity,
- [00:29:23.880]I am talking about, there's a quote, there's a quote,
- [00:29:26.460]He's got a quote.
- [00:29:27.293]I got quotes.
- [00:29:28.126]"Give yourself enough time to produce something great,
- [00:29:29.910]but not unlimited time."
- [00:29:31.597]"Focus on creating something good enough
- [00:29:34.020]to catch the attention of those whose taste you care about,
- [00:29:37.380]but relieve yourself of the need to forge a masterpiece."
- [00:29:40.867]"Progress is what matters, not perfection."
- [00:29:45.060]Which,
- [00:29:46.680]Okay.
- [00:29:47.520]I love when
- [00:29:50.670]folks talk about and recognize the fact that
- [00:29:55.560]you only have 24 hours in a day.
- [00:29:57.270]You only have seven days in a week.
- [00:29:59.250]You only have so much energy to give any particular thing.
- [00:30:03.120]Augustine Burroughs has the line, it's out of,
- [00:30:06.960]is it "Magical Thinking" or the one that came after it?
- [00:30:09.210]But, perfection is a satin lined casket
- [00:30:12.631]of productivity, of progress.
- [00:30:16.080]And so, it didn't feel I took a ton of actionable stuff
- [00:30:23.370]out of "Slow Productivity,"
- [00:30:26.400]but it really helped me think through
- [00:30:29.130]some of the philosophies around
- [00:30:31.380]how I'm thinking about my time,
- [00:30:33.390]how I'm thinking about my energy.
- [00:30:34.710]And this is where that conversation around
- [00:30:36.570]the pressure release has come out of.
- [00:30:40.290]So I really enjoyed him.
- [00:30:42.210]And then fiction wise,
- [00:30:44.490]That's the important stuff.
- [00:30:45.420]Fiction wise. "The important stuff."
- [00:30:50.160]I kind of have fallen in love with Hans Fallada,
- [00:30:55.650]who is a German writer.
- [00:30:57.060]Okay.
- [00:30:57.893]Coming out of late '30s through the '40s.
- [00:31:02.190]So World War II era.
- [00:31:04.260]And I discovered him talking to a bookseller in Berlin
- [00:31:09.480]and he is writing about Germany as Hitler's coming to power
- [00:31:18.703]and the spaces for, and what the history of what
- [00:31:24.300]led to Hitler's rise to power.
- [00:31:27.240]And then, what is happening in Germany as Hitler's in power.
- [00:31:34.320]I found it to be some really powerful ways.
- [00:31:36.600]So the first book that I read from him
- [00:31:39.570]was "Alone In Berlin."
- [00:31:41.550]And it's told in a couple of different parallel stories.
- [00:31:46.050]This couple in Berlin,
- [00:31:49.530]their son has just died at the front lines.
- [00:31:53.220]And, keep in mind this, is like 1930s, early '40s.
- [00:31:59.190]The dad decides to leave postcards across the city
- [00:32:03.180]with anti Hitler sentiments on it.
- [00:32:06.476]And then, what it ends up turning into
- [00:32:08.280]is this cat and mouse game between the,
- [00:32:12.191](cell phone beeping)
- [00:32:14.789](Nick laughing)
- [00:32:21.570]between the Secret Service and this couple.
- [00:32:26.400]And it was just fascinating
- [00:32:27.900]both from a historical standpoint,
- [00:32:31.260]but also just the writing was good.
- [00:32:32.610]Yeah.
- [00:32:33.615]I really enjoyed
- [00:32:34.448]the writing. It's gotta be
- [00:32:35.281]well written, yeah.
- [00:32:36.114]You know, so it was 500 pages, but it felt it was two.
- [00:32:40.140]Yeah.
- [00:32:41.010]Right?
- [00:32:41.843]So, it was just one of those,
- [00:32:42.676]it was probably my best fiction read for
- [00:32:46.350]For the summer.
- [00:32:47.183]this particular summer.
- [00:32:48.090]So, two books that were helpful
- [00:32:50.250]in terms of thinking through some stuff.
- [00:32:52.800]And one book that I just, I thought was painful at times,
- [00:32:57.120]but, it's just super enjoyable.
- [00:33:00.030]I liked it a lot.
- [00:33:01.770]So. Okay. That's great.
- [00:33:04.500]So, what are you excited about for this semester?
- [00:33:10.200]So I'm excited about,
- [00:33:11.670]I'm continuing some work around learning,
- [00:33:16.230]particularly for adult learners.
- [00:33:19.860]One of the things that I did manage
- [00:33:21.210]to get done this summer was I did a lot of work around
- [00:33:25.830]executive function for particularly young adults.
- [00:33:32.640]Thinking a bit about anxiety,
- [00:33:36.810]obviously, "Anxious Generation," dah dah, dah, dah, duh.
- [00:33:39.480]But, also thinking about,
- [00:33:42.900]what does it mean when
- [00:33:46.770]you decentralize this idea
- [00:33:48.750]of being a good learner from your identity construct?
- [00:33:51.810]And learning is something you do versus something you are?
- [00:33:55.770]And rethinking my course
- [00:33:59.220]to push forward that idea of, when you learn,
- [00:34:04.260]you make mistakes.
- [00:34:05.220]When you learn, you don't always know it all.
- [00:34:08.910]When you learn, there are these spaces where,
- [00:34:12.217]"Oh, shoot, I don't know that."
- [00:34:14.827]"And how do I now know that better?"
- [00:34:18.270]And then, thinking through ways that I, as an instructor
- [00:34:22.380]can support them in building up
- [00:34:25.890]these kind of executive function pieces
- [00:34:29.160]around how do you delegate your time?
- [00:34:31.380]How do you align your time with your goals
- [00:34:34.590]and where is that appropriate
- [00:34:35.910]and when can you slough off?
- [00:34:40.110]The difference between, what is self care
- [00:34:44.550]and what is
- [00:34:48.180]self, kind of,
- [00:34:53.970]when are you just doing something 'cause it feels good?
- [00:34:56.430]Self-indulgence.
- [00:34:57.263]That's the word I was looking for.
- [00:34:59.520]I'm still off of coffee.
- [00:35:01.230]I only still get one cup a day
- [00:35:04.140]and it's driving me crazy.
- [00:35:06.210]And I don't think as well.
- [00:35:08.040]Yes. I've noticed this.
- [00:35:09.960]Yes. Argh, Invisalign,
- [00:35:11.430]you're killing me.
- [00:35:14.130]So, I'm excited to see how that works.
- [00:35:16.380]I've made some really specific moves in my teaching
- [00:35:23.130]and I'm curious about
- [00:35:24.750]how they're going to work out for students.
- [00:35:30.360]'Cause again, that's what we're here for.
- [00:35:32.280]I want them to move into their next reading centered class
- [00:35:36.240]really well prepared to teach that student.
- [00:35:39.480]I want them to be in their practicum
- [00:35:40.830]and be able to notice what is happening there.
- [00:35:42.990]So, I'm really excited to see how that plays out,
- [00:35:48.120]to see how that works particularly this semester.
- [00:35:52.830]Excellent.
- [00:35:53.663]So yeah, it should be good.
- [00:35:56.940]Or it won't be, I'm playing around with it.
- [00:36:00.480]Students could be like, "Why did you do that?"
- [00:36:02.197]"Like, why, why,
- [00:36:03.570]why does every article have a video introduction
- [00:36:06.570]of what you want us to pay attention to,
- [00:36:08.040]that doesn't make any sense?"
- [00:36:10.560]They seem to like them, Dan. I think they appreciate it.
- [00:36:13.075](Nick laughing)
- [00:36:15.330]What are you excited about?
- [00:36:16.590]I'm excited about a few things.
- [00:36:18.690]One is that the work I've been doing over the last few years
- [00:36:22.500]around arts integration, using journaling,
- [00:36:25.710]and a few other things, is really starting to show.
- [00:36:28.410]So we're getting some students results
- [00:36:31.080]and we're getting to publication on a number of pieces.
- [00:36:33.630]We just submitted one, we've got three more
- [00:36:36.210]that are in process.
- [00:36:37.920]So, this is really exciting to be able to share that.
- [00:36:40.890]We've been sharing at conferences, and that's been great.
- [00:36:43.710]But, this is leaving that mark
- [00:36:47.070]that would stay there
- [00:36:49.530]for a while, instead of, I've talked to 30 people
- [00:36:52.500]who were really excited about it
- [00:36:53.970]and maybe they'll remember when they get home?
- [00:36:57.810]To being able to reach wider a audience.
- [00:37:00.210]The second thing is, this is the fall of AI for me.
- [00:37:03.780]I've got three
- [00:37:06.060]separate presentations. Wait.
- [00:37:08.940]There's two ways to read that.
- [00:37:10.110]The fall of AI
- [00:37:12.000]versus No.
- [00:37:12.833]The fall of AI.
- [00:37:14.850]Like, the September through December of AI,
- [00:37:18.870]I'm doing a lot of work on AI. Intonation matters.
- [00:37:21.002]fluency matters Yeah.
- [00:37:23.820]And so, and maybe the fall of AI.
- [00:37:26.490]But, we're all grappling with it.
- [00:37:31.338]I'm keynoting in Singapore about AI
- [00:37:34.410]in education. Ooh, you just
- [00:37:35.520]dropped that so casually.
- [00:37:36.690]Yes. "I'm keynoting
- [00:37:37.530]in Singapore." Yes.
- [00:37:39.950]"No, I don't have anything big."
- [00:37:40.783]I'm talking about the paper we have
- [00:37:42.480]about AI in teacher education in Finland.
- [00:37:46.740]And I'm going to a few other conferences around AI.
- [00:37:51.720]So I'm really excited about that.
- [00:37:53.730]A few publications are coming out about AI.
- [00:37:55.770]One came out yesterday.
- [00:37:57.270]Nice. Congrats.
- [00:37:58.980]That's delightful.
- [00:38:01.170]There's a series of collaborations.
- [00:38:02.670]And the thing I'm excited about,
- [00:38:04.140]is we're not just talking about AI,
- [00:38:06.450]but we're also working with AI scientists
- [00:38:10.440]to develop our own models to do some work inside education.
- [00:38:14.970]Not borrowing from a ChatGPT.
- [00:38:17.130]So not just an API, using the existing models,
- [00:38:20.070]but actually trying to create specific models
- [00:38:22.710]that will work separately.
- [00:38:25.560]So first of all, they don't get owned by whoever
- [00:38:28.320]is looking to make trillions of dollars,
- [00:38:31.260]but instead will be owned by the public.
- [00:38:35.070]And the second piece is,
- [00:38:36.240]to have them design specifically for education.
- [00:38:38.700]So without all the bruhaha of,
- [00:38:42.097]"We've got to swallow all the information out there
- [00:38:45.300]to create a model that will make us money."
- [00:38:47.880]It's not gonna make us money.
- [00:38:49.140]And, we don't need that much information.
- [00:38:51.960]We can create small models that know what we're looking for
- [00:38:55.530]and are helpful inside education,
- [00:38:59.130]and also while protecting teachers, and students,
- [00:39:02.670]and families from just
- [00:39:04.710]sharing their information with the universe.
- [00:39:07.260]So, that's what I'm excited about.
- [00:39:08.850]Just moving toward the singularity, aren't we?
- [00:39:11.640]Maybe.
- [00:39:12.685](Nick sighing)
- [00:39:13.877]It's fine.
- [00:39:14.710]Maybe. It's fine.
- [00:39:15.543]It's like that cartoon with the dog
- [00:39:16.830]and everything's burning, and he just keeps going,
- [00:39:18.157]"It's fine, this is fine, this will be okay."
- [00:39:21.097]"Whatever, whatever."
- [00:39:23.730]So, season three.
- [00:39:25.530]Season three, what are we excited in season three about?
- [00:39:28.410]What are we gonna have this season?
- [00:39:29.940]So, we've got a couple of different things planned.
- [00:39:32.340]We've got some people planned to talk with.
- [00:39:35.790]We're gonna do some, of course,
- [00:39:37.650]we've got our Martha Stewart wreaths, you know,
- [00:39:40.440]call back to previous conversations.
- [00:39:45.180]So we'll be doing some more talk about academic jobs,
- [00:39:48.540]academic job markets, 'cause you know,
- [00:39:50.190]it's my favorite time of the year.
- [00:39:53.250]Talking about switching positions,
- [00:39:55.290]when you know it's time to leave.
- [00:39:57.240]So, your "Bets" book.
- [00:40:00.480]Yes.
- [00:40:01.313]She actually wrote a book on quitting.
- [00:40:02.520]Which I've read
- [00:40:03.510]Yes.
- [00:40:04.440]in anticipation for that episode.
- [00:40:07.620]So, we're gonna talk a little bit about,
- [00:40:10.020]we're gonna step outside of our comfort zone.
- [00:40:12.480]And talk about quitting.
- [00:40:13.590]Talk about quitting.
- [00:40:14.430]Talk about leaving academia, which are two different things,
- [00:40:17.400]'cause there's quitting
- [00:40:19.830]and going elsewhere
- [00:40:21.600]or doing other things. Yes, which is also okay.
- [00:40:23.250]And then there's switching institutions
- [00:40:25.740]and what does that look like, how does that feel?
- [00:40:27.930]And I have a third one, borrowing from Annie Duke,
- [00:40:30.450]is sometimes you do the small quits,
- [00:40:32.310]because in poker you have the small quits, you fold.
- [00:40:34.800]I don't know, I don't play poker.
- [00:40:35.820]Yeah. But you fold.
- [00:40:37.650]And, one of the things
- [00:40:39.028]she talks about I fold laundry.
- [00:40:40.260]is when you play poker,
- [00:40:43.800]the professional players fold about 80% of the time.
- [00:40:47.070]Just after the first couple of cards they're like,
- [00:40:49.507]"Yeah, I'm out."
- [00:40:50.340]"This is not likely to turn out well."
- [00:40:53.220]Whereas amateurs tend to go forward
- [00:40:56.820]with about 50% of the hands.
- [00:40:58.920]So that, so, we can talk about, so what I'm saying is,
- [00:41:02.100]there's small quitting.
- [00:41:03.090]That is, look at your projects and decide which project,
- [00:41:06.450]despite the fact that you've invested the last three years
- [00:41:09.210]and it's time to put them to bed.
- [00:41:10.860]So they're small quitting as well.
- [00:41:12.630]Committee quitting, eh, jobs within
- [00:41:15.690]the institution quitting. Quiet quitting.
- [00:41:17.340]Not quiet quitting, noisy quitting, like mine.
- [00:41:19.620]I was department chair, I stepped down.
- [00:41:22.320]That was a classic Annie Duke moment in,
- [00:41:26.460]playing the percentages, how likely it is to get better,
- [00:41:30.240]how likely it is to not.
- [00:41:31.710]And that's a moment where it becomes crystal clear,
- [00:41:35.340]at least to me.
- [00:41:37.200]Anyway.
- [00:41:38.033]So I mean, we've got some of our classics but,
- [00:41:41.190]new takes on them.
- [00:41:42.720]Ways that our thinking has evolved.
- [00:41:45.120]Thinking about, I'm excited to talk about generalists
- [00:41:47.730]and experts this season.
- [00:41:50.520]Also thinking about continuing to talk about technology
- [00:41:54.030]and how we can use technology to
- [00:41:58.470]not drive ourselves crazy instead of
- [00:42:02.280]using it to help us go crazy.
- [00:42:04.350]We don't want that.
- [00:42:05.670]And, we'll talk also a little bit,
- [00:42:10.290]we'll go back, going back to the callbacks
- [00:42:13.038]a little bit, Our reads.
- [00:42:16.020]a little bit to applying for grad school
- [00:42:19.050]and making your first steps in making choices
- [00:42:21.570]and all of that.
- [00:42:22.403]We'll recall some of the arguments we've made
- [00:42:25.920]and talk about a few new ones.
- [00:42:27.570]I have a few new takes based on the work
- [00:42:30.150]I've been doing, so.
- [00:42:31.020]I enjoy new takes.
- [00:42:32.610]I'm also excited about your takes on,
- [00:42:34.260]we're gonna talk about creative works at some point.
- [00:42:37.290]Like, this would be a creative work
- [00:42:41.010]and how to be a public intellectual as well as be,
- [00:42:44.880]kind of more traditional
- [00:42:48.360]research article. Exciting things happening.
- [00:42:50.100]So it's gonna be good, it's gonna be good.
- [00:42:52.290]So we are looking forward to season three with y'all.
- [00:42:58.110]And, have a good start to the semester.
- [00:43:01.260]Hopefully your summers have gone Guy's
- [00:43:04.620]and not mine,
- [00:43:05.815](Guy laughing)
- [00:43:06.648]where, it's just kind of like, "What am I doing?"
- [00:43:08.197]"What's my name?" Well, you did,
- [00:43:10.320]also spend a few weeks in Europe and I did not.
- [00:43:13.020]I spent a few days in Vegas.
- [00:43:14.970]So.
- [00:43:15.803]Mm. I mean, yeah.
- [00:43:16.636]There is the Europe trip, that was a bright spot.
- [00:43:20.580]If anyone sees my luggage,
- [00:43:21.778](upbeat music)
- [00:43:24.390]send it to me 'cause no one seems to know where it is.
- [00:43:27.450]But yeah, here's to season three.
- [00:43:30.060]Season three. We're rolling.
- [00:43:31.900]♪ Oh ♪
- [00:43:34.829]♪ Oh ♪
- [00:43:36.226]♪ Hey ♪
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