S1E15: Youth Sports-Don't Lose the Concept of What It’s All About w. Jay Foreman
Nebraska Extension Early Childhood Program Area-Emily Manning, Dr. Holly Hatton, Ingrid Lindal, Erin Kampbell, Linda Reddish, Katie Krause, and LaDonna Werth
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Jay Foreman joins The Good Life in Early Life to share about the role sports have played in his life and what children and youth can learn from participating in sports. He discusses how he became involved in football as a child and what he learned through his experiences while sharing insight on what to look for in a sports program for young children.
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- [00:00:00.000](upbeat music)
- [00:00:06.040]This is "The Good Life in Early Life,"
- [00:00:09.420]a production of Nebraska Extension.
- [00:00:11.610]I'm your host, Emily Manning,
- [00:00:13.080]who's experiencing a little bit of a cold
- [00:00:15.360]so my voice sounds a little bit different
- [00:00:17.400]than it normally does.
- [00:00:18.510]But we're gonna have a great show anyway.
- [00:00:20.850]Our first guest today is a former Husker football player
- [00:00:23.820]who was a part of the team
- [00:00:24.960]during some of the program's most successful years,
- [00:00:27.540]1994 to 1998.
- [00:00:29.640]He red shirted in 1994,
- [00:00:31.380]but was a starting strong side linebacker in 1995,
- [00:00:34.380]finishing the '95 season with 32 tackles
- [00:00:37.020]and starting the national championship game against Florida.
- [00:00:40.290]After that season, he transitioned
- [00:00:42.030]to the starting defensive middle linebacker position,
- [00:00:44.220]which he held for the rest of his time at Nebraska.
- [00:00:46.800]He finished his Husker career with 233 tackles,
- [00:00:50.310]69 of which were solo, 15 tackles for lost five sacks,
- [00:00:54.510]two force fumbles, six pass breakups,
- [00:00:56.610]two interceptions, and 19 quarterback hurries.
- [00:00:59.820]In 1999, he was drafted by the Buffalo Bills
- [00:01:02.760]and continued playing in the NFL for eight years.
- [00:01:05.520]Now he is the host of a radio show Inside the Huddle on 93.7
- [00:01:09.960]that follows the Husker football program.
- [00:01:12.240]Some of you who are avid Husker fans
- [00:01:14.490]may already have an idea who our guest is.
- [00:01:16.650]Welcome to the show, Mr. Jay Foreman.
- [00:01:19.920]Thanks for having me.
- [00:01:20.753]Thanks for being here. We're so excited to have you.
- [00:01:22.939]Let's start with a funny memory of you from your childhood,
- [00:01:26.280]or a favorite memory of your childhood.
- [00:01:27.884]You know, I had a pretty simple childhood
- [00:01:29.670]and I guess my, one of the funniest I tell you is my dad,
- [00:01:32.610]you know, he was a famous football player, Chuck Foreman
- [00:01:34.680]and the Minnesota Vikings made a huge trade,
- [00:01:37.980]a historical trade in NFL history for Herschel Walker
- [00:01:40.830]who was at the Dallas Cowboys.
- [00:01:42.390]So they traded like 12 players for one player.
- [00:01:45.630]And in Herschel Walker's first game,
- [00:01:48.030]they invited my dad to the game and my dad had been retired.
- [00:01:51.090]And so he brought me.
- [00:01:52.170]And back then the cool thing was that,
- [00:01:55.913]you know, to get on TV.
- [00:01:57.720]And so we were in the Metrodome and you know,
- [00:02:00.690]they put my dad up on the big screen
- [00:02:02.310]and I hogged the moment.
- [00:02:03.690]It's on YouTube somewhere.
- [00:02:05.040]And it's funny, I had this like machine washed winter jacket
- [00:02:08.790]with like a little fur in there
- [00:02:10.560]and I was jumping all over the place and super excited.
- [00:02:13.650]They said the people were laughing at me, you know, on TV.
- [00:02:16.590]But that was probably the funniest moment
- [00:02:18.300]because as I look back on it now, I'm just laughing.
- [00:02:21.060]My dad sit there and I'm-
- [00:02:22.980]Going crazy.
- [00:02:23.813]Going crazy, you know, jumping in the screen,
- [00:02:25.320]wanting to get on there and you know,
- [00:02:26.850]they were trying to, you know, celebrate him.
- [00:02:28.650]You know, that's probably my,
- [00:02:29.910]one of my funniest childhood moments
- [00:02:32.010]'cause it was, you know, pretty embarrassing.
- [00:02:33.630]My dad was embarrassing, but it was, you know,
- [00:02:36.211]as a kid I didn't know any better.
- [00:02:37.230]Oh, that's hilarious. What did he say about it?
- [00:02:38.810]He didn't say anything. He was just laughing, you know.
- [00:02:40.710]I think it just became, because they were showing him,
- [00:02:42.840]I think the TV, you know, that was on,
- [00:02:45.510]I think CBS or whatever it was probably like,
- [00:02:47.370]man, this kid needs to settle down.
- [00:02:49.170]But back then, you know, that was the cool thing
- [00:02:51.090]'cause there wasn't any social media,
- [00:02:52.710]no cell phones or anything like that.
- [00:02:54.420]And the cool thing was, you know,
- [00:02:56.270]or I thought it was gonna be cool
- [00:02:57.870]to be able to go back to school.
- [00:03:00.024]And people say they saw me on TV.
- [00:03:02.430]I made sure everybody saw me on TV
- [00:03:04.440]at the Minnesota Vikings game.
- [00:03:05.670]So that's probably the funniest memory I have.
- [00:03:08.550]That's awesome. That's so cool.
- [00:03:10.050]And what a neat memory with your father in football,
- [00:03:13.320]like starting pretty early on.
- [00:03:14.910]So with football, like that has been
- [00:03:17.130]a major part of your life for-
- [00:03:18.960]Forever, yeah, yeah. Forever, yeah.
- [00:03:20.280]And it's always been, I mean, I grew up in a,
- [00:03:23.280]you know, my grandfather served in the military
- [00:03:25.020]and I was a grandma that worked out,
- [00:03:26.520]you know, at the government in Washington DC.
- [00:03:28.680]And, you know, I'm originally from Frederick Maryland,
- [00:03:30.870]went to high school or middle school
- [00:03:32.400]and high school in Minnesota.
- [00:03:34.890]But we always watched sports.
- [00:03:36.750]It wasn't just football.
- [00:03:37.710]You know, that was a means for back then
- [00:03:40.200]for kids that were, you know,
- [00:03:42.090]from the inner city to get to school.
- [00:03:44.430]And my oldest Uncle Francis Foreman
- [00:03:46.920]kind of set the path for the,
- [00:03:48.240]including my dad other siblings.
- [00:03:49.560]And so football was just a part of our family.
- [00:03:52.050]It wasn't our whole family and our whole identity,
- [00:03:54.480]but it's a big part of our lives, right,
- [00:03:55.800]and teaches you so much.
- [00:03:57.090]And, you know, we all played, you know, multiple sports,
- [00:03:59.640]just football, you know, obviously became second nature.
- [00:04:01.980]And then obviously when your dad's pretty famous,
- [00:04:03.690]it's kind of like, you know,
- [00:04:05.279]you can roll out of bed and play football.
- [00:04:06.112]But it's a big part of my life,
- [00:04:07.530]but it's not definitely, you know, who I am.
- [00:04:09.750]But it's had a big influence and help shape,
- [00:04:11.550]I guess my personality or life.
- [00:04:13.077]You know, you're able to learn a lot of things
- [00:04:15.030]through the sports as an avenue.
- [00:04:16.620]You know, things I probably wouldn't be able to do,
- [00:04:18.597]you know, later in life.
- [00:04:19.860]And so, you know, you owed a lot to,
- [00:04:21.357]you know, football or let alone sports
- [00:04:23.340]just because of what it teaches you
- [00:04:24.570]outside of just playing the game.
- [00:04:25.890]Yeah, absolutely.
- [00:04:26.910]And that's one of the reasons that we brought you in today
- [00:04:28.680]is to talk about that,
- [00:04:29.783]and how your successful career as an athlete
- [00:04:32.280]in your journey with sports
- [00:04:33.630]and those experiences with sports early on
- [00:04:36.000]set you up for success.
- [00:04:37.290]Do you wanna talk a little bit about that?
- [00:04:38.373]First of all, sports teaches you a lot of life lessons
- [00:04:41.460]that maybe you don't wanna listen to your parents about.
- [00:04:43.530]Or I think better statement would be
- [00:04:45.450]it teaches you life lessons a lot earlier and faster.
- [00:04:48.855]And what I mean by that,
- [00:04:49.980]you gotta learn how to communicate, right?
- [00:04:51.570]You gotta learn how to persevere.
- [00:04:53.550]You gotta learn how to work hard.
- [00:04:54.750]You gotta learn how to deal with failure.
- [00:04:56.220]You gotta learn how to deal with success,
- [00:04:58.470]which is obviously probably the hardest thing
- [00:05:00.300]for a lot of people to deal with in life in general.
- [00:05:02.970]And then you're able to, I guess, create an identity
- [00:05:06.180]or find something that you can identify with
- [00:05:08.370]to give you some structure and confidence
- [00:05:10.890]and all these things, right?
- [00:05:11.727]And so all the things that you might not learn
- [00:05:14.010]if you didn't play sports over say 15, 20 years,
- [00:05:17.010]you're getting a crash course in it.
- [00:05:19.020]And just over football season or a sports career,
- [00:05:22.500]whether you're adolescent, high school or college.
- [00:05:24.540]And it always changes as well, right?
- [00:05:26.940]So you're, you know, if you're never been exposed to,
- [00:05:29.306]you know, different cultures,
- [00:05:30.630]different, you know, households
- [00:05:32.430]or maybe even even different religions
- [00:05:35.100]or anything like that, well you're gonna see it.
- [00:05:36.630]And when you're in a locker room,
- [00:05:38.100]I mean, it's like essentially
- [00:05:39.540]a little kind of microcosm of the world, right?
- [00:05:41.970]You're having all different types of people,
- [00:05:43.770]political beliefs or religious beliefs
- [00:05:45.930]or how they're, you know, just the way that they view life
- [00:05:48.300]or the way they grew up.
- [00:05:49.290]And you have to find a way to make it all work, right,
- [00:05:51.570]for the betterment of the team.
- [00:05:52.620]You gotta not only put all that stuff aside,
- [00:05:55.230]but then respect everybody's personal space and beliefs.
- [00:05:58.140]And then obviously we're here to play a team sport.
- [00:06:00.450]So it helps you learn how to be a,
- [00:06:02.323]you know, undeniable teammate and be selfless as well
- [00:06:05.640]'cause sometimes you have to sacrifice
- [00:06:07.020]your own personal gains for the betterment of the team
- [00:06:09.930]and see something a little bit, you know, beyond yourself.
- [00:06:12.660]So it teaches you a lot about life lessons early and often.
- [00:06:15.210]And then also I think, for me,
- [00:06:16.920]working hard and fighting through adversity,
- [00:06:19.683]I think helps you later on in life
- [00:06:21.810]'cause eventually you're gonna have to
- [00:06:22.830]fight through adversity.
- [00:06:23.663]So you're able to draw back on something, I think
- [00:06:25.650]that may be that you never were
- [00:06:27.240]thought that you could do 'cause you did it.
- [00:06:29.190]And then you're able to use those, that confidence
- [00:06:32.250]or those situations to help you move through other things.
- [00:06:34.560]So it sounds like a lot of life skills
- [00:06:36.990]are developed in sports because it's this high pressure,
- [00:06:41.520]high intensity environment.
- [00:06:43.020]We're exposed to so many people,
- [00:06:45.660]you don't really have a choice who your teammates are,
- [00:06:48.120]especially in college, right?
- [00:06:49.710]Well, maybe not even high school, right?
- [00:06:51.360]And so you gotta learn how to get along
- [00:06:53.550]for the betterment of your team, right?
- [00:06:55.260]So you you gotta figure it out.
- [00:06:56.940]Whether it's high pressure or low pressure,
- [00:06:58.470]you gotta figure it out.
- [00:06:59.940]And you don't get to choose your teammates.
- [00:07:02.160]So then therefore it's not conditional, it's unconditional.
- [00:07:05.850]You know, where it's like, if you want to play football,
- [00:07:08.580]you're playing football.
- [00:07:09.720]You can't go around and get, you know,
- [00:07:11.250]22 of your Facebook friends and say,
- [00:07:13.410]we're gonna go be a football team.
- [00:07:14.970]You might come into a locker room,
- [00:07:17.250]you know, I played with guys when I was back in,
- [00:07:19.835]you know, '94 that probably haven't been exposed
- [00:07:23.070]to a lot of African American athletes, black athletes,
- [00:07:25.470]just because they're not from....
- [00:07:26.430]You can't fault anybody where they're from, right?
- [00:07:28.260]So that was a learning experience,
- [00:07:29.640]not only for them, but for me, right.
- [00:07:31.430]I grew up in, you know, in the east coast of Washington DC
- [00:07:35.200]where it was, you know, a melting pot.
- [00:07:36.885]So you know, I could never really fathom that.
- [00:07:38.580]But then I had to learn how to understand
- [00:07:40.470]where they came from, right, or where they're from.
- [00:07:42.360]For me, you know, it was just second nature, right?
- [00:07:45.440]Or just kind of just part of it, right.
- [00:07:46.890]Versus some people it didn't.
- [00:07:48.060]I played with guys in the NFL
- [00:07:49.560]that are from like the middle of nowhere in like Alabama
- [00:07:52.410]that hadn't been exposed to a lot of like white people.
- [00:07:54.930]So they had to figure it out.
- [00:07:56.462]Sports is kind of bigger.
- [00:07:58.260]Everybody looks at the score and all that stuff
- [00:08:00.660]and it's bigger than that.
- [00:08:01.950]And that's why, you know, the great thing about sports.
- [00:08:04.050]Absolutely.
- [00:08:05.190]Yeah, there's so many things
- [00:08:06.570]that go into making someone successful in sports
- [00:08:09.690]and a team successful.
- [00:08:11.100]And I think you did a really nice job of talking about that.
- [00:08:13.920]I wanted to go back to something that you said earlier
- [00:08:16.440]and you said that sometimes the hardest things
- [00:08:19.140]for someone to deal with is success.
- [00:08:21.360]Yeah. I think it is. I mean, failure is like,
- [00:08:23.580]you're gonna fail at sports majority of the time, right?
- [00:08:25.920]If you think of a baseball player,
- [00:08:27.180]you're a hall of fame baseball player
- [00:08:28.530]if you get three hits out of a 10, you're 300.
- [00:08:31.410]You're failing seven times, right?
- [00:08:33.030]Right. Yeah.
- [00:08:33.990]You're not gonna win every football game.
- [00:08:35.550]You're not gonna win every tennis match.
- [00:08:36.960]You're not gonna win every basketball game.
- [00:08:38.970]Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Michael Jordan, Magic John,
- [00:08:42.480]all the greats of all missed game winning shots.
- [00:08:44.460]There's failure there. You know, and they probably missed
- [00:08:46.800]more game winning shots or big shots
- [00:08:48.930]than maybe they've made.
- [00:08:50.160]But the ones that they've made
- [00:08:51.540]is what put 'them up in extraordinary status.
- [00:08:53.940]And so you're fail, right.
- [00:08:55.920]So that's just a known, that's like a known, right?
- [00:08:57.960]You're gonna get your butt kicked sometimes.
- [00:08:59.370]Well then once you become successful,
- [00:09:00.900]it's the hardest thing to deal with
- [00:09:02.160]because sometimes you could be successful,
- [00:09:04.200]forget how you got there, forget who helped you get there,
- [00:09:06.750]then you might get the, I guess, lax or entitled
- [00:09:10.950]or, you know, kind of soft, you know?
- [00:09:13.530]And you know, you lose your edge a little bit.
- [00:09:15.480]And that's hard to deal with
- [00:09:16.410]because when you're coming up
- [00:09:17.940]and you're say you're the hunter,
- [00:09:19.320]that means you are hyper-focused.
- [00:09:21.240]Then when you get on the mountaintop, now you're the hunted.
- [00:09:24.180]Now you have to figure, now you have to find different ways
- [00:09:26.730]to stay individually motivated.
- [00:09:28.456]So essentially when you're the hunter,
- [00:09:30.480]you have a village helping you get there.
- [00:09:32.743]Then when you make it, you gotta make sure you still
- [00:09:36.300]like, nourish that village.
- [00:09:37.860]And then everybody's still on the same page
- [00:09:40.260]trying to continue to deal with it
- [00:09:41.790]even though you're successful.
- [00:09:43.500]And that's where you see people lose themselves, you know.
- [00:09:46.050]And sometimes they could really think
- [00:09:47.550]they are the best things since sliced bread, as they say,
- [00:09:50.490]or since peanut butter or whatever.
- [00:09:53.042]And then they lose themselves.
- [00:09:55.762]And you see it all the time,
- [00:09:58.325]and whether it's business, sports or life,
- [00:09:59.460]you know, you might, you know, hit a good streak
- [00:10:01.590]and be successful, but it wasn't always like that.
- [00:10:04.140]And so you always had to be able to, you know, stay humble.
- [00:10:06.630]And that's the hardest thing to do,
- [00:10:07.530]especially in social media, right.
- [00:10:08.880]Whereas, you know, the only thing
- [00:10:10.800]that people really want or show is success.
- [00:10:13.860]And so once you have success, you start to become,
- [00:10:16.230]I guess the wrong way, addicted to it, right.
- [00:10:18.210]Whereas like you're just looking for gratification
- [00:10:21.330]versus if you like success
- [00:10:23.100]and you become addicted to like winning or success
- [00:10:26.190]and that's all kind of your individual kind of parameters,
- [00:10:29.730]what you view as success,
- [00:10:31.620]then you will continue to work for it.
- [00:10:33.080]You know, you gotta continue to be competitive.
- [00:10:34.890]So that's the hardest thing I think,
- [00:10:36.150]for everybody to deal with
- [00:10:37.650]because you know, you never wanna get too high,
- [00:10:39.960]you would never wanna get too low
- [00:10:41.190]just because it's just the way,
- [00:10:42.780]you know, that's the way life is.
- [00:10:44.190]Sports is very humbling.
- [00:10:45.450]As much when you think you got it, something can happen,
- [00:10:47.940]then you gotta figure it out and how to get back up there.
- [00:10:50.340]Yeah, I'm just seeing like how many different ways
- [00:10:53.010]that could be so relevant just to daily life
- [00:10:55.710]and like a career and family and friends.
- [00:10:59.250]Like, you know, once you have something good,
- [00:11:01.320]like you gotta figure out how to maintain that.
- [00:11:03.270]Sure.
- [00:11:04.230]You know, I always tell people, you know,
- [00:11:05.640]when you play sports, you know,
- [00:11:06.990]it's a relationship with that sport.
- [00:11:08.880]It is.
- [00:11:09.750]You gotta pour into that thing thing.
- [00:11:11.640]Whether it's good or bad or indifferent,
- [00:11:13.740]you gotta think. I mean, you know, look, I've been there,
- [00:11:15.990]you know, you just read this,
- [00:11:17.040]you know, my, I guess bio or whatever.
- [00:11:19.424]But, you know, look, I showed up in Nebraska
- [00:11:22.170]first spring ball seventh on the depth chart.
- [00:11:24.000]I had to pour more into it.
- [00:11:25.560]That's a relationship.
- [00:11:26.430]I started with it, it didn't start all at peaches and cream.
- [00:11:29.670]I had to nourish that relationship.
- [00:11:31.770]I had to give.
- [00:11:32.970]So that's what it is, it's a relationship with the sport.
- [00:11:36.038]Just you and the sport.
- [00:11:38.700]And that's why I say it can't be conditional.
- [00:11:41.100]It's gotta be unconditional and you gotta love it.
- [00:11:43.020]And you know, when you love it,
- [00:11:45.210]there's gonna be times that you hate it.
- [00:11:46.560]And you know, when you really hate it,
- [00:11:47.700]probably when you gotta work hard.
- [00:11:49.107]And to be frank, it sucks, right?
- [00:11:50.760]Playing sports and being successful sucks.
- [00:11:54.270]It does 'cause it's a lot of sacrifice,
- [00:11:56.370]it's a lot of alone time.
- [00:11:57.570]You gotta work hard.
- [00:11:58.440]You gotta be out there in the heat
- [00:11:59.760]when a lot of people are having fun at the beach
- [00:12:02.100]or on the boat and all that other stuff.
- [00:12:03.360]So you gotta make a lot of sacrifice.
- [00:12:04.680]But at the end of the day, that is an a known, right?
- [00:12:07.200]That's the number one known.
- [00:12:08.850]So there's only two ways that you can go
- [00:12:11.610]is complain about it and let it be negative
- [00:12:14.040]or accept it and deal with it and get something out of it.
- [00:12:17.192]And that's the same thing
- [00:12:19.110]like with the relationship with sport.
- [00:12:20.880]You gotta just nourish it and pour into it
- [00:12:23.730]and continue to pour into it.
- [00:12:24.930]It's a lifelong commitment, man, that's the thing.
- [00:12:27.660]It's a truly a organic commitment to sports.
- [00:12:31.770]Yeah. How early did you learn that?
- [00:12:34.560]Huh, not very early.
- [00:12:37.111]Listen, don't sit over there and think like, this is a,
- [00:12:41.550]like, I had all the answers.
- [00:12:43.184]I learned 'cause I was...
- [00:12:45.990]You don't know me well, I was hardheaded, you know.
- [00:12:48.477]And you know what they say, hard head make for a soft butt.
- [00:12:51.150]So I fell in my butt plenty.
- [00:12:54.701]I don't know when I learned it,
- [00:12:56.310]I think I learned it over time
- [00:12:57.780]and it's a continued process.
- [00:12:59.100]It's literally a relationship
- [00:13:01.320]'cause you're gonna learn more about yourself in the sport,
- [00:13:04.710]even if you're playing after I'm done playing.
- [00:13:07.390]So you learn it as you go.
- [00:13:10.800]But you're only gonna learn if you accept and embrace it.
- [00:13:14.310]If you're only trying to do it one way,
- [00:13:16.170]and it's only for you, we won't be having this conversation.
- [00:13:19.350]Okay, so you said if you're only trying
- [00:13:21.690]to do it for yourself, you won't kind of let go anywhere.
- [00:13:24.480]Do you wanna-
- [00:13:25.313]I mean, you will.
- [00:13:26.146]I mean there's a lot of guys
- [00:13:27.600]that are just extremely talented.
- [00:13:29.520]So they're able to have a different,
- [00:13:31.200]but that's like the 1% of the 1% of the 1%.
- [00:13:34.410]But generally the greatest of all time are selfless
- [00:13:37.020]and they understand because they know they're the greatest.
- [00:13:39.570]They work hard.
- [00:13:40.500]They might be demanding,
- [00:13:42.210]but they're not gonna demand any more out
- [00:13:44.370]outta you than themselves.
- [00:13:45.870]And so just on that alone, they're being great teammates
- [00:13:49.710]because they're gonna get you
- [00:13:51.060]to do more than you're actually capable to do.
- [00:13:53.490]So they can't be individually motivated
- [00:13:55.770]or only worried about themselves.
- [00:13:57.060]They're worried about the team.
- [00:13:58.110]And they know that by the success of the team
- [00:14:00.480]and their greatness, that it all works itself out.
- [00:14:02.730]Like I'm not sitting here
- [00:14:03.930]if I didn't have a good support system,
- [00:14:06.000]great teammates, great coaches,
- [00:14:07.860]and people that believed in me.
- [00:14:09.660]There's no way, you know,
- [00:14:10.637]'cause I wasn't immensely talented.
- [00:14:12.720]And a lot of guys aren't.
- [00:14:14.340]Look at Tom Brady, he had to work his butt off, right?
- [00:14:17.280]If he didn't have-
- [00:14:18.360]Because wasn't he one of the like lowest-
- [00:14:20.057]Lowest drafted.
- [00:14:20.890]Draft Yeah.
- [00:14:22.620]You know, I mean, so you gotta think
- [00:14:23.700]if he didn't have a team that believed in him,
- [00:14:25.762](indistinct) checking him and teammates around him.
- [00:14:27.990]And then he was selfless to understand where he was at
- [00:14:31.260]while he continued to improve, there is no Tom Brady.
- [00:14:34.560]So that's just, I mean, that's just the way it goes.
- [00:14:36.720]And sometimes I think right now
- [00:14:38.070]with the whole social media thing
- [00:14:39.510]and the way that the people
- [00:14:41.760]have put a individual spin on sports that,
- [00:14:44.555]you know, sometimes that gets lost.
- [00:14:46.290]The teamship and the selflessness and.
- [00:14:48.667]Yeah, 'cause at the end of the day,
- [00:14:50.430]the more you win, it works out for everybody.
- [00:14:52.440]It generally does.
- [00:14:53.640]You know, nobody talks about
- [00:14:54.930]the greatest player on a losing team.
- [00:14:56.758]That's true. That's true.
- [00:14:59.400]So everybody's gonna do better
- [00:15:00.600]when the whole team is doing better.
- [00:15:02.550]And there's a lot of average players
- [00:15:03.383]that are on great teams
- [00:15:04.216]that people think are a lot better than they actually were.
- [00:15:05.900]So it works itself out.
- [00:15:07.530]It always comes around to you.
- [00:15:08.850]It's like the boomerang, it'll come back to you.
- [00:15:10.716]So it's just hard getting that thing going.
- [00:15:13.106]Yeah. Oh yeah.
- [00:15:14.040]I mean, if everybody knew how to do it,
- [00:15:15.570]like we'd have so many successful teams.
- [00:15:17.310]We wouldn't be here.
- [00:15:18.678]We'd probably, you know,
- [00:15:19.670]be getting paid billions of dollars, right.
- [00:15:23.388]And okay, when you're talking about this,
- [00:15:25.500]like, it kind of, to me it sounds like
- [00:15:28.080]you have to know yourself and look at yourself in the mirror
- [00:15:31.830]without any like delusions, you know?
- [00:15:34.470]You have to see yourself and see your flaws
- [00:15:37.027]and your strengths too
- [00:15:39.060]and be able to like act on that.
- [00:15:40.980]And I think that could be really hard.
- [00:15:43.182]It is hard. It is hard.
- [00:15:44.550]You have to become like one with yourself
- [00:15:47.070]and understand that, you know,
- [00:15:48.782]you gotta accept where you're at, right, who you are.
- [00:15:52.380]And so you have to understand that
- [00:15:53.880]I had strengths and I had weaknesses, right?
- [00:15:56.569]So I had to accentuate my strengths and work my tail off
- [00:15:59.730]to minimize my weaknesses every single day.
- [00:16:02.790]That doesn't mean I'm not a good player.
- [00:16:04.560]That means I have to find a way
- [00:16:06.090]to be the best player I can be and accept it.
- [00:16:08.370]I have to be the best, I have to be the all American me,
- [00:16:11.760]you know, and that's good enough.
- [00:16:13.200]Let's talk about your childhood a little bit.
- [00:16:15.660]And how early did you start playing sports?
- [00:16:19.530]Organized sports?
- [00:16:20.525]Yeah.
- [00:16:22.242]Not very early.
- [00:16:23.287]You know, my dad was a famous football player,
- [00:16:25.350]so he kind of protected me a little bit.
- [00:16:26.880]I think like around fifth grade or something like that.
- [00:16:29.520]Nothing like too early.
- [00:16:31.050]It wasn't like forced upon us, you know, or forced upon me.
- [00:16:34.470]My dad kind of let me, you know, kind of do my thing.
- [00:16:37.710]Now I love sports, you know.
- [00:16:39.360]I'd go down with friends and shoot hoops and you know,
- [00:16:42.450]and he put me in everything, you know.
- [00:16:44.370]But nothing really like competitive
- [00:16:47.220]until I was ready to do it.
- [00:16:48.810]I'll tell you a funny story about football.
- [00:16:50.160]So my dad didn't want me to play football.
- [00:16:52.110]Not that I wasn't tough enough,
- [00:16:53.160]but probably didn't want me to face the pressure, right.
- [00:16:55.770]But I loved football, right.
- [00:16:57.450]And I was scared to ask my dad to play
- [00:17:00.510]'cause he always kind of like anti football, right?
- [00:17:02.940]So there was sign up at this place called Round Lake,
- [00:17:06.990]and I just had moved to Minnesota,
- [00:17:08.610]so it's like sixth or maybe seventh and eighth grade.
- [00:17:11.250]So I was like, man, you know, everybody's asking,
- [00:17:13.170]are you gonna go off for football?
- [00:17:14.220]'Cause like when we play like at recess,
- [00:17:16.230]I'd be, you know, doing well, right.
- [00:17:17.970]I loved it, right.
- [00:17:18.803]And I watched it every single, you know, any chance I could.
- [00:17:21.420]And so I got out one morning, my dad was asleep,
- [00:17:24.480]rode my bike like, it was like four miles,
- [00:17:26.940]rode my bike up to Round Lake.
- [00:17:29.670]Got there, signed up, forged my dad's signature,
- [00:17:33.026]came home, sat on it, because now I gotta pay the fee,
- [00:17:36.510]I gotta find a way to pay the fee.
- [00:17:37.830]Oh, you know, the fee, and I don't know what it was.
- [00:17:39.932]Yeah, the club fee.
- [00:17:40.765]Club fee.
- [00:17:41.598]And you know, it was due on a certain date.
- [00:17:43.470]And I remember as I, you know,
- [00:17:45.750]we had two weeks to, you know, to do it
- [00:17:48.237]and then, you know, have first practice or whatever.
- [00:17:50.640]And I waited all the way until like two days before
- [00:17:54.000]and broke down and said dad, I got something to tell you.
- [00:17:58.110]And he was like, he was probably thinking
- [00:17:59.670]I got into more trouble at school.
- [00:18:01.097]I said, listen, I lied to you and you know,
- [00:18:04.110]'cause I never wanted to lie to my dad.
- [00:18:05.550]I said, I lied to you and I went up to Round Lake.
- [00:18:08.237]I told him the whole story.
- [00:18:10.260]I figured, you know, you always told me
- [00:18:12.120]you didn't want me to play football yet.
- [00:18:13.890]I wanted to play. I signed up.
- [00:18:15.900]Will you please?
- [00:18:16.860]I just like, I promise I'll play hard.
- [00:18:19.080]I was just like, I promise I'll do it.
- [00:18:21.300]And he was like, since you did that to that extreme,
- [00:18:25.500]I'm gonna let you play and I'm gonna support you.
- [00:18:27.623]And we had very simple rules.
- [00:18:29.250]He's like, I want you to be the best teammate you can.
- [00:18:31.650]And I want you to work hard and that's it.
- [00:18:33.690]Oh yeah. That's it.
- [00:18:34.920]And that's what he is always told me.
- [00:18:36.180]And he kept it real simple like that.
- [00:18:37.590]And I think he probably knew
- [00:18:38.640]that I was a good enough athlete if I did those two things,
- [00:18:40.650]that I would figure it out.
- [00:18:41.580]And that was it.
- [00:18:42.413]So I never really had any pressure.
- [00:18:43.620]I never felt pressure of performing
- [00:18:46.350]because that was the standard, 'cause he knew everything.
- [00:18:48.210]Now granted, you know, it started to kind of,
- [00:18:50.790]I put my own standards up there, but that was it.
- [00:18:52.770]And that's how I got started in football.
- [00:18:54.030]You know, my dad just supported me,
- [00:18:55.620]you know, the best he knew how.
- [00:18:57.840]Yeah. That's awesome.
- [00:18:58.770]I love that you had such a positive support from your dad
- [00:19:02.010]and were able to experience and enjoy sports.
- [00:19:04.740]And that kind of leads into my next question.
- [00:19:07.290]Under some conditions, youth sports experiences
- [00:19:09.840]can be positive or they can be negative.
- [00:19:12.480]What do you think can contribute
- [00:19:13.890]to those negative experience for kiddos?
- [00:19:16.947]So, like I said, I think unrealistic expectations
- [00:19:19.770]of the kids parents and coaches.
- [00:19:22.302]You know, I think sometimes, you know,
- [00:19:23.460]you see the stories of parents going to these youth games
- [00:19:26.310]and just losing their mind, don't know how to act.
- [00:19:28.560]So then the kids replicate that. Coaches as well.
- [00:19:31.110]And so everybody's, you know,
- [00:19:33.000]nobody's adverse to being emotional
- [00:19:35.220]and competitive environments.
- [00:19:36.480]But then also don't lose the concept of what it's all about.
- [00:19:40.560]And I think people also have a different idea
- [00:19:43.800]of what a positive and negative experience
- [00:19:46.500]is playing a sport.
- [00:19:47.940]A positive can't only be about wins and losses.
- [00:19:51.720]Now granted, I'm competitive, I like to win everything,
- [00:19:53.820]but that can't be the end all be all.
- [00:19:55.380]And then a negative can't be solely because
- [00:19:58.170]a coach is holding your kid accountable
- [00:20:00.480]or has them work hard.
- [00:20:02.340]The negative, I think sometimes where you see it
- [00:20:05.010]is kid is coaches or parents label a kid and like,
- [00:20:09.390]I guess I'll say like banish kids, kind of like,
- [00:20:11.790]I wouldn't say demean them
- [00:20:12.630]because that's the way too like harsh.
- [00:20:13.950]But I think they always kind of like
- [00:20:15.420]trying to create their own like little group.
- [00:20:18.120]And then if you're not a part of the group,
- [00:20:20.070]like then, you know-
- [00:20:21.466]You get pushed off-
- [00:20:22.623]Pushed away,
- [00:20:23.914]and then that you lose a lot of kids to the sport.
- [00:20:24.870]Then I think sometimes, you know, like football wise,
- [00:20:26.730]I think sometimes I see these like little
- [00:20:28.590]like Friday night Tykes or something.
- [00:20:30.270]These kids are like in second grade, like playing.
- [00:20:34.320]Yeah, they are.
- [00:20:35.153]They just want popsicles.
- [00:20:36.240]They don't know what they're doing.
- [00:20:37.110]So I think sometimes, you know,
- [00:20:38.850]it becomes too much fixated on it is like a money grab,
- [00:20:42.360]you know, where, you know, it is expensive.
- [00:20:44.220]And so then that's where you think, you know,
- [00:20:45.690]I think people would have lost the sense of reality
- [00:20:48.180]or the purity of the sports
- [00:20:49.650]and what it's supposed to be at a certain age level.
- [00:20:52.380]Now I do think as you start to age,
- [00:20:54.990]the intensity and expectations need to go along
- [00:20:57.900]and be correlated along with it.
- [00:20:59.430]So I think being on youth sports depends on the coaches.
- [00:21:03.030]You know, you gotta, you know...
- [00:21:04.560]And I commend parents that coach, trust me.
- [00:21:07.410]It's not easy because, you know,
- [00:21:08.830]it is not just the kids that's dealing,
- [00:21:10.620]you're dealing with the other parent.
- [00:21:12.420]So, you know, it's a hard thing right now,
- [00:21:14.220]but I think if you get more people invested in it,
- [00:21:16.620]then you know, I think that you'll see
- [00:21:18.030]more positive come out than negative.
- [00:21:19.740]Yeah, and what advice would you give
- [00:21:21.030]to parents and athletes
- [00:21:22.110]about what to look for in a sports coach?
- [00:21:24.870]I'd probably just say like, especially early on, early on,
- [00:21:28.680]look for somebody that wants to build
- [00:21:30.210]a good base of fundamentals, discipline and hard work.
- [00:21:34.500]You know what I'm saying? That's huge.
- [00:21:36.090]You know, and somebody that's willing to work alongside you
- [00:21:38.730]and communicate with you
- [00:21:39.870]to use sports as an advocate to be your,
- [00:21:43.050]it could help you with discipline at home.
- [00:21:44.850]If they're acting up at home,
- [00:21:45.930]well, you don't get to play, you don't get to practice
- [00:21:48.480]or you only get to practice and not play.
- [00:21:50.416]So I think if you find somebody
- [00:21:51.330]that really wants to coach your kids
- [00:21:53.460]and be a person that they can remember,
- [00:21:56.220]I think, and it is based on fundamentals.
- [00:21:58.230]Like now within a certain age,
- [00:22:00.060]like a fourth grader isn't gonna understand
- [00:22:01.560]what I'm talking about about like sacrifice.
- [00:22:03.706]You know, they want play video games all day
- [00:22:07.050]and then come, you know...
- [00:22:08.490]But as this is somebody that you can say like,
- [00:22:10.830]okay, well he or she can provide a good basis
- [00:22:14.760]of a starting point and set a sport and then go from there.
- [00:22:17.670]Yeah. Yeah.
- [00:22:18.503]So just building a good base for them
- [00:22:21.600]and seeing the kid for where they're at in their life.
- [00:22:27.090]If you saw me in fourth grade,
- [00:22:28.913]there's no way you'd think I would've made it to college.
- [00:22:32.304]Oh yeah. Why is that?
- [00:22:33.540]You know, big old feet, you know, knocked knees, skinny.
- [00:22:36.360]You know, so I mean, it wasn't, I didn't look like much.
- [00:22:38.850]I mean, you know, one of the funniest stories,
- [00:22:40.470]I was in the airport, and I'll never forget this.
- [00:22:42.229]I was in the Atlanta airport headed back to Minneapolis
- [00:22:44.730]and the guy comes up to me and he's like
- [00:22:47.610]you know, he said, are you Jay Foreman?
- [00:22:49.200]I'm like, yeah.
- [00:22:50.529]He's like, I'm from Minnesota.
- [00:22:51.630]I was like, okay, cool. You know, it's cool.
- [00:22:52.810]He is like, man, I ref one of your games in high school.
- [00:22:56.130]And he is like, don't take this the wrong way.
- [00:22:58.620]I'm like, okay.
- [00:23:00.262]Okay. Where's this going?
- [00:23:01.095]He is like, it's commendable how far you went with,
- [00:23:05.745]you know, your college and NFL career.
- [00:23:07.440]He's like, 'cause when I saw you in high school,
- [00:23:09.720]there's no way I would've thought you would've been that.
- [00:23:11.460]So, I mean, that's an example.
- [00:23:13.770]You just never know.
- [00:23:14.603]I mean, heck, Michael Jordan got cut
- [00:23:15.690]from a high school team.
- [00:23:16.920]So, I mean, just never know.
- [00:23:18.420]And so that's why I always think like, you know,
- [00:23:20.490]eventually the separation of, you know,
- [00:23:23.820]skill sets and mindsets will,
- [00:23:25.800]it is just naturally happens. So I think the good thing
- [00:23:28.890]is trying to give kids a good fundamental base
- [00:23:31.020]because that's where sports always starts.
- [00:23:32.670]And if you can do that versus trying to make kids
- [00:23:34.740]into something right from the get go,
- [00:23:36.240]it just doesn't work out well.
- [00:23:37.500]Yeah.
- [00:23:39.055]Going into some of the research
- [00:23:41.100]that there is a growing proportion of families saying
- [00:23:43.890]they wouldn't allow their sons
- [00:23:45.570]or their kids to play football.
- [00:23:47.430]And as a former NFL player
- [00:23:49.741]and some former NFL players have said that too,
- [00:23:52.800]that they aren't gonna allow their kids to play football.
- [00:23:55.320]You're a former NFL player.
- [00:23:56.850]If you feel comfortable answering this,
- [00:23:58.920]what would you say on that topic?
- [00:24:01.470]I see both sides.
- [00:24:02.490]I mean, I got a lot of injuries and stuff
- [00:24:03.930]that I got from football,
- [00:24:05.520]but also, you know,
- [00:24:06.360]gained a lot of good experiences from it.
- [00:24:08.190]So I see both sides, I do understand why,
- [00:24:11.070]and I, you know, maybe would probably lean towards not,
- [00:24:14.820]I would, you know, unless you really are,
- [00:24:17.400]I always say, you know, like to say about that life.
- [00:24:20.068]I would say this definitely
- [00:24:22.170]I would hold off on contact tackling football
- [00:24:25.110]to the latest as possible.
- [00:24:26.190]I would definitely say that because for two reasons.
- [00:24:28.530]I don't think enough coaches teach them fundamentals
- [00:24:30.930]and the right way to play.
- [00:24:32.070]And then when the kids are growing,
- [00:24:34.380]it leads to more injuries.
- [00:24:35.820]And if you're not teaching 'them fundamentals,
- [00:24:37.350]there's more head injuries.
- [00:24:38.370]And obviously with concussions done and all that,
- [00:24:40.020]I think it's a huge deal.
- [00:24:41.826]So I understand what they say
- [00:24:42.810]and understand why they say it.
- [00:24:44.010]And definitely they have data and experience to back it up.
- [00:24:47.520]But then also I see why, you know,
- [00:24:49.320]parents let their kid play.
- [00:24:50.820]I never would.
- [00:24:51.653]The one thing I will say,
- [00:24:52.800]do not force a kid to play football.
- [00:24:54.480]I do believe that.
- [00:24:55.680]If it's something they want to do, you'll know.
- [00:24:58.530]Yeah. They'll find a way.
- [00:24:59.520]Like, they'll ride their bike.
- [00:25:01.440]You'll figure it out whether they like getting hit
- [00:25:03.300]within the first couple weeks
- [00:25:04.440]and then the nature will take his course.
- [00:25:05.700]Yeah, so what would be the consequences
- [00:25:07.590]of someone, a parent forcing their kid to play football?
- [00:25:11.160]Well, I think if they feel pressure that, you know,
- [00:25:14.130]like for me, right?
- [00:25:15.120]I never felt pressure from my dad to play football.
- [00:25:18.212]So I freely play football, right.
- [00:25:20.730]Just think if you feel like you have to play football
- [00:25:23.880]'cause your dad played football,
- [00:25:25.680]you're gonna have a kid that doesn't love it.
- [00:25:27.420]He's gonna end up resenting the sport,
- [00:25:29.280]which is I think is a great sport.
- [00:25:30.910]You're gonna potentially, and I can't speak for everybody,
- [00:25:33.840]resent a parent or parents or mentor
- [00:25:36.420]or whoever is pushing you there.
- [00:25:38.280]And it's not gonna end up well anyways.
- [00:25:40.140]Now there's all these cases that I just, you know,
- [00:25:42.030]you have guys that play football as a means to an end, okay.
- [00:25:44.730]But they know how to turn on and off, you know,
- [00:25:46.863]just understand that they're for the football
- [00:25:49.230]and then they're able to kind of get away from it.
- [00:25:51.570]There's not enough people that are mentally focused
- [00:25:53.700]and built like that to do it.
- [00:25:54.570]So I just said forcing somebody to do something like that
- [00:25:57.270]is probably not a,
- [00:25:58.920]I mean that's, I'm not a childhood development like expert,
- [00:26:01.740]but I just don't think there would be positive
- [00:26:03.690]that come out of it.
- [00:26:04.523]Yeah.
- [00:26:05.707]What are your thoughts on how parents and coaches
- [00:26:07.560]can create a positive environment
- [00:26:09.270]for young children to experience sports?
- [00:26:11.670]So we're talking like our really, really young kiddos,
- [00:26:14.850]like between four to eight, you know.
- [00:26:17.437]How can we set them up
- [00:26:18.750]for a positive experience with sports?
- [00:26:20.460]I think probably a good mix of fun and work.
- [00:26:23.317]It's hard probably is like, you know, wrestling cattle,
- [00:26:26.430]wrestling up cattle, you know,
- [00:26:27.690]you're herding cattle or whatever.
- [00:26:29.340]But I think that's the biggest thing.
- [00:26:30.570]If a coach can take a bull by the horns
- [00:26:32.550]and set the expectations with the parents
- [00:26:34.410]and then also actively do it at practice and in the game,
- [00:26:37.410]then I think that'll definitely be positive.
- [00:26:39.840]Because their kids will get better,
- [00:26:41.070]they'll have a better experience.
- [00:26:42.150]And then as they come back year after year,
- [00:26:44.100]you're able to add on to what you're doing.
- [00:26:46.020]So it's not only the foundation, but it's the foundation,
- [00:26:48.180]the relationship between the parents and the coach
- [00:26:50.310]and coach and players.
- [00:26:51.143]You know, so it's kind of like that triangle effect
- [00:26:52.920]that everybody's on the same page.
- [00:26:54.416]This is what we're here to do in fourth grade.
- [00:26:57.780]This is our goals, this is what's I expect.
- [00:27:00.870]And then go from there.
- [00:27:02.310]Yeah, yeah.
- [00:27:03.143]So everybody on the same page that this is fun.
- [00:27:04.830]Ideally.
- [00:27:05.820]It don't work that way, but ideally.
- [00:27:07.530]But that's the way I would say
- [00:27:08.940]is you try to have that line of communication going
- [00:27:11.940]and then that sets the expectations
- [00:27:14.400]and then therefore people aren't showing up on a Saturday
- [00:27:17.010]to a basketball game expecting to see the,
- [00:27:19.304]you know, NBA championship talent type of,
- [00:27:20.513]you know, output from fourth graders.
- [00:27:22.740]Right, right.
- [00:27:24.090]Are you a parent yourself?
- [00:27:25.500]Sorry, I didn't ask that.
- [00:27:26.527]Yeah.
- [00:27:27.360]Yeah, you are a parent yourself.
- [00:27:29.040]And you said that you're pretty intense,
- [00:27:30.930]you're pretty competitive.
- [00:27:32.040]Is it hard to separate like when you're a parent
- [00:27:36.270]watching your kid play, like, and you want them to do well,
- [00:27:38.910]is it hard to separate that
- [00:27:39.990]or is it easy to be like, ah, it's just a game?
- [00:27:42.870]A little bit of both.
- [00:27:44.274]As long as they're playing hard, then I don't really care
- [00:27:46.980]'cause I know they'll do well.
- [00:27:48.000]I tell all my kids, don't play sports
- [00:27:49.730]if you think you need to satisfy me.
- [00:27:51.750]My sports like cup is full.
- [00:27:54.090]I'm good with whatever, all the stuff I've done.
- [00:27:57.780]So get that, you know, don't even think about that.
- [00:28:00.661]Don't think you need to please me
- [00:28:02.640]by going and playing sports.
- [00:28:03.690]Trust me, I'm done with that.
- [00:28:06.021]Right. Yeah, yeah.
- [00:28:06.990]Well, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
- [00:28:08.970]Any final thoughts or words of wisdom?
- [00:28:12.210]I appreciate you guys having me on
- [00:28:13.740]and, you know, look, man,
- [00:28:15.330]I just think that sports is a great avenue
- [00:28:17.160]for parents, kids, and coaches, I do.
- [00:28:20.040]And that's just, and I encourage all kids and families
- [00:28:24.450]to play multiple sports, especially early.
- [00:28:26.730]Okay. Yeah.
- [00:28:27.563]I think you can learn different things from each sport.
- [00:28:30.026]Then you're gonna meet more people,
- [00:28:31.980]you're gonna meet more parents.
- [00:28:32.850]So I think it's a learning experience for all of 'them.
- [00:28:34.800]You learn different coaching styles, right?
- [00:28:36.630]You learn like a one, you know,
- [00:28:38.070]you have a basketball coach, then you have a baseball coach
- [00:28:39.807]and you might have a soccer coach or whatever,
- [00:28:42.150]that everybody kind of coaches different.
- [00:28:43.920]So you can kind of, that means your kids getting taught
- [00:28:46.200]different life lessons as that,
- [00:28:47.647]you know, sport pertains to it.
- [00:28:49.530]So that's why I'm, you know, I'm all for it.
- [00:28:50.880]I think it's great.
- [00:28:51.713]And I also think sports,
- [00:28:53.040]if your son or daughter really likes sports,
- [00:28:55.640]it is a great tool to be able to have in your back pocket
- [00:29:00.210]that you can use as a positive way to help with school,
- [00:29:04.470]help with discipline, help with accountability.
- [00:29:07.710]You can teach us a lot of things through sports.
- [00:29:09.510]So I'm all for it.
- [00:29:10.710]Love that.
- [00:29:11.543]Thank you so much for your time today, Jay Foreman.
- [00:29:13.890]We're so lucky to have you on this podcast.
- [00:29:16.080]Thanks for sharing your thoughts about coaching and sports,
- [00:29:18.987]and I think everybody's gonna really appreciate
- [00:29:21.000]what you've shared with us.
- [00:29:22.464]Yeah, thanks for having me, man. I appreciate it.
- [00:29:24.361](soft music)
- [00:29:25.612]Next we are gonna highlight a young Nebraskan
- [00:29:27.600]telling us all about their birthday celebrations.
- [00:29:31.080]Enjoy.
- [00:29:32.220]You just had a birthday.
- [00:29:33.630]Yeah.
- [00:29:34.463]What'd you do for your birthday?
- [00:29:36.060]I got presents.
- [00:29:37.170]You got presents? What was your favorite present?
- [00:29:40.290]Thomas train track thing
- [00:29:42.140]that have red rubber that pull them all by yourself.
- [00:29:46.350]That push forward and backwards
- [00:29:48.600]and then that stops them and going.
- [00:29:52.170]Yeah, so pushing the trains backwards and forward.
- [00:29:54.981]Yeah.
- [00:29:56.040]Yeah, on my, Thomas train track.
- [00:29:59.550]The Thomas the train track?
- [00:30:01.020]Yeah.
- [00:30:02.116]Did you have cake at your birthday?
- [00:30:04.735]Yeah, I have Buzz Lightyear cake.
- [00:30:07.241]A buzz Lightyear cake.
- [00:30:08.790]Yeah.
- [00:30:09.623]Mm. What do you like about Buzz Lightyear?
- [00:30:11.640]He says to infinity and beyond.
- [00:30:14.971]Oh, that's right.
- [00:30:16.770]And with that, this has been another episode
- [00:30:18.477]of "The Good Life in Early Life,"
- [00:30:20.653]a Nebraska Extension Early Childhood production
- [00:30:23.130]with your host Emily Manning.
- [00:30:24.780]For more information on early childhood,
- [00:30:26.730]check out our website at child.unl.edu.
- [00:30:30.030]If you like the show,
- [00:30:30.900]subscribe and tell your friends to listen.
- [00:30:32.940]The show production team is Emily Manning,
- [00:30:35.220]Dr. Holly Hatton, Erin Campbel, Ingrid Landal,
- [00:30:38.760]Linda Reddish, Kim Wellsand, LaDonna Wirth, and Katie Kraus.
- [00:30:42.360]See you next time and thanks for listening.
- [00:30:44.730]Bye-Bye.
- [00:30:46.105](upbeat music)
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