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Technology - Ph.D. discussions with Nicholas Husbye and Guy Trainin. www.youtube.com/@tltenotthatkindofdoctor and https://mediahub.unl.edu/channels/42980

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[00:00:00.233](bright upbeat music)
[00:00:10.873]I just listened to a podcast about human sacrifice.
[00:00:15.180]Anyway.
[00:00:16.890]What am I supposed to do with that information?
[00:00:19.620]What I'm saying is
[00:00:21.270]that it took us a long time to figure out
[00:00:26.760]how the civilization thing works
[00:00:29.850]and how it makes people's lives better.
[00:00:33.150]I'm not sure if we figured that out, though.
[00:00:36.990]Anyway.
[00:00:38.790]Yes.
[00:00:39.960]I feel like I'm gonna need a link to this podcast.
[00:00:42.060]Yes. Because.
[00:00:42.893]So this is a podcast
[00:00:44.430]that right now is focused on early, prehistory, really.
[00:00:50.580]In early, early history across, right now, China,
[00:00:54.450]but across the world.
[00:00:56.100]And you can see from records that,
[00:00:59.580]especially in the last 20 years,
[00:01:01.110]people have looked at that life when civilization emerges,
[00:01:05.730]life actually gets worse.
[00:01:07.560]Not better for most people.
[00:01:09.780]For the people on top, it's fantastic, or it's better.
[00:01:13.290]But for the vast majority of people,
[00:01:16.020]it's actually worse than it used to be before.
[00:01:18.450]From a health perspective, from all kinds of perspectives,
[00:01:23.430]it is not as good and often much, much worse.
[00:01:28.680]Diet is worse, life expectancy is worse.
[00:01:33.507]It's an interesting thing
[00:01:35.280]because I think we've been,
[00:01:38.250]we have this vision of progress
[00:01:40.620]and civilization as improving the outcomes for everybody.
[00:01:44.970]That whole idea about lifts all boats.
[00:01:48.810]And turns out not so much, not even remotely.
[00:01:53.619]Really? So,
[00:01:54.452]so, it really points out
[00:01:56.160]that maybe the last 150 to 200 years were the anomaly
[00:02:01.110]to the way history worked and not,
[00:02:04.590]anyway.
[00:02:05.423]Okay, well, to segue. (Guy laughs)
[00:02:07.410]To segue into what you wanna talk about.
[00:02:08.668]To segue, right, like,
[00:02:11.100]so civilization doesn't necessarily improve life.
[00:02:15.930]However, we're gonna talk about technology,
[00:02:18.660]which is one of the tools that we utilize
[00:02:20.970]to make our lives more efficient,
[00:02:23.250]make our lives more streamlined,
[00:02:24.660]make our lives, like, happier,
[00:02:26.880]maybe, possibly? Happier.
[00:02:28.260]I don't know.
[00:02:29.640]This podcast might have.
[00:02:30.570]Well, and I think there's a difference.
[00:02:33.000]So if we want to draw back to that picture,
[00:02:36.300]there's a difference between the big picture,
[00:02:38.730]which may be that things are not as fantastic
[00:02:42.270]and the individual lives
[00:02:43.980]that within the structures that exist,
[00:02:47.340]there are certain things about civilization,
[00:02:49.950]in this case, technology,
[00:02:51.030]that can improve your immediate life.
[00:02:53.550]Does it improve everybody's life or life of humanity?
[00:02:56.730]That is a different question.
[00:02:58.680]And that question is more challenging,
[00:03:02.040]but it's definitely true.
[00:03:03.320]Do you know what's challenging?
[00:03:04.560]Yeah?
[00:03:05.393]Is making a link between starting with human sacrifice
[00:03:10.020]and research technologies.
[00:03:12.300]Yes. And yet I managed to do it.
[00:03:15.390]Props.
[00:03:16.380]Go me.
[00:03:17.730]Super excited.
[00:03:18.960]So today on "Not That Kind of a Doctor,"
[00:03:20.700]that is exactly what we're talking about.
[00:03:22.350]We're gonna talk about some of the technologies that we use-
[00:03:25.410]And we will not be talking about human sacrifice,
[00:03:27.840]just to clarify.
[00:03:28.673]But maybe thinking about it potentially.
[00:03:31.710]I don't know.
[00:03:32.933]Preferably not.
[00:03:34.590]I'm Guy Trainin, I'm a professor here at UNL.
[00:03:37.110]I'm Nick Husbye, I'm an associate professor
[00:03:39.180]of elementary literacy education K-6 here at UNL.
[00:03:42.720]And we're gonna talk about different kinds of technologies
[00:03:45.600]that can actually help you when you are in my emphasis.
[00:03:48.810]So this idea is,
[00:03:50.250]Nick and I were talking about
[00:03:51.330]what are we gonna talk about today?
[00:03:52.890]I came up with the idea of talking about software
[00:03:56.040]that can make your life better as a researcher,
[00:03:59.670]even as an instructor.
[00:04:01.290]And I come to it from a realization I actually had,
[00:04:04.920]and that is the time in my life
[00:04:07.290]that I learned the most about software
[00:04:08.940]that still carries me to this day
[00:04:10.680]was when I was a graduate student
[00:04:11.997]and a young assistant professor.
[00:04:14.340]That's where I learned, and I kind of set a foundation.
[00:04:17.220]And ever since then,
[00:04:18.780]I've been using more or less, with some changes,
[00:04:23.130]the same or a similar set of tools.
[00:04:25.290]So they've become foundational to the way I work.
[00:04:27.900]And I think partially it's because
[00:04:30.930]that is a good time to start.
[00:04:32.850]And that is the time where you have,
[00:04:34.620]it feels like you don't have any time,
[00:04:36.210]but it's actually the time that you have the most time
[00:04:41.940]to dedicate to setting things up.
[00:04:44.580]And because you're just starting out,
[00:04:47.730]you have less to set up.
[00:04:49.170]So I have right now, 20 something years of data
[00:04:52.530]and things I've collected and all of that.
[00:04:54.690]It's really hard to backfill that
[00:04:57.450]into the first thing we're gonna talk about,
[00:04:59.970]which is the reference management software.
[00:05:02.670]RMS, I've learned. RMS.
[00:05:04.890]Yes.
[00:05:05.723]And so if you have a long career
[00:05:09.000]and you've always kind of managed to search thing
[00:05:11.790]and find them and drop them at the last minute into a paper
[00:05:14.970]or collect them as you go,
[00:05:17.280]then it's hard to take all of that that I've written about
[00:05:21.660]and all the references I have and backfill it into a system.
[00:05:24.990]But if you're starting out,
[00:05:26.250]or if you're in the first few years of starting out,
[00:05:29.040]it seems like a much more achievable project
[00:05:32.190]that becomes just the way you work.
[00:05:34.680]And my understanding is you do not use an RMS.
[00:05:37.320]No, I do not.
[00:05:38.460]I have tried multiple times,
[00:05:41.580]but I always feel like this is too late for me.
[00:05:45.420]And so- Okay.
[00:05:46.860]So I wanna talk through a couple of things
[00:05:48.450]that I think might be- Yes, absolutely.
[00:05:49.283]might be helpful.
[00:05:51.480]So one, let's talk about the different kinds of RMSs
[00:05:54.660]that are out there.
[00:05:56.550]RMS, reference management system.
[00:05:59.130]When you're thinking about building
[00:06:02.010]a sustainable writing practice in academia,
[00:06:06.600]like, there's the reality
[00:06:09.450]that you don't have these uninterrupted blocks
[00:06:13.440]of time any longer.
[00:06:15.240]You don't have, you know,
[00:06:17.460]these huge spaces within which to do that work.
[00:06:22.050]So really, you need to be able to be
[00:06:24.270]as efficient as possible with the half-hour blocks
[00:06:27.570]or the 15-minute blocks as you possibly can.
[00:06:29.940]And RMS is our one way to do that.
[00:06:34.230]And essentially, a reference management software
[00:06:37.950]is going to allow you to, as you read articles,
[00:06:44.370]log all of the bibliographic information
[00:06:46.980]around those articles.
[00:06:49.050]And typically, when we think about an RMS,
[00:06:51.810]we think about the construction of the bibliography,
[00:06:55.650]the construction of intact citations as you write,
[00:07:02.070]which is super helpful, right?
[00:07:03.690]When we're thinking about an efficiency standpoint,
[00:07:06.480]that's one less thing that we then have to do.
[00:07:09.540]And a really good RMS is going to allow you
[00:07:14.220]to reference in a variety of different styles,
[00:07:17.910]whether it's APA, or MLA, or Chicago, what have you.
[00:07:21.870]So it's a nice piece of software to have
[00:07:27.630]and to invest in as a,
[00:07:30.930]it's kind of like, it is a little bit like a pet.
[00:07:33.210]Like you have to feed it, you have to keep it,
[00:07:35.550]you have to keep it up,
[00:07:36.690]and just continually utilize it, right?
[00:07:42.840]It's one thing to have it, it's another thing to utilize it.
[00:07:47.460]It's like the Weight Watchers app.
[00:07:50.111]You have to use the Weight Watchers app in order to,
[00:07:53.430]you know? Yeah.
[00:07:54.870]Lose the weight if that's what your weight goal is, right?
[00:07:56.496]Watch your weight.
[00:07:57.329]So, like, if my goal
[00:07:58.560]is to be more efficient in my writing process,
[00:08:01.410]I need to utilize my RMS.
[00:08:03.600]So one of the first things that I look for
[00:08:05.520]is really the features
[00:08:08.220]of that reference management software,
[00:08:12.060]and kind of the pinnacle of reference management is EndNote.
[00:08:17.857]EndNote's been around forever. Forever.
[00:08:20.490]It's probably one of the,
[00:08:22.140]if not the first RMS that was out there.
[00:08:26.490]And the nice thing about that,
[00:08:31.170]the other thing to be thinking about
[00:08:32.250]is the cost of this software, right?
[00:08:35.070]So EndNote, you can buy just as a flat standalone.
[00:08:40.110]Like, I'm kind of over subscriptions, can't tell a lie.
[00:08:44.190]That's part of the reason I got rid of my last RMS.
[00:08:47.340]Like I've moved from RMS to RMS to RMS
[00:08:52.380]as features have evolved, right?
[00:08:55.410]What works well with the Google Docs,
[00:08:56.940]that's the environment within which I work.
[00:08:58.620]Think about the environment within which you work.
[00:09:00.870]Typically, if you're a Word person, EndNote's great.
[00:09:05.524]If you're a Google Doc person now, EndNote is also great,
[00:09:08.340]but it wasn't always great, right?
[00:09:10.890]So be aware of what the features are
[00:09:13.650]and what the limitations are.
[00:09:16.290]And beyond that bibliographic element,
[00:09:21.300]the other thing that I find that I look for
[00:09:24.780]is integration with, particularly my iPad, my tablet.
[00:09:31.620]That's where I read, that's where I annotate,
[00:09:34.170]articles that I've collected.
[00:09:37.020]I typically index all my subscriptions on browsing
[00:09:40.170]and then import articles that are of interest,
[00:09:43.590]read them, annotate them, upload them into my EndNote.
[00:09:48.060]And that has created a much more streamlined process for me
[00:09:54.720]as I try to shift reading to feed my writing
[00:10:00.420]within the same system.
[00:10:02.820]So if you are someone who, like yourself,
[00:10:06.330]is like, "Oh, it's too late to get started."
[00:10:09.090]Like, part of the friction there is,
[00:10:12.367]"Oh my gosh, I can't use this
[00:10:13.710]unless all of my back stuff is in there."
[00:10:16.650]And I wanna push you- Okay, I'll be pushed.
[00:10:20.010]to what happens if you just- Start it now.
[00:10:24.960]start it with the stuff you're actually using
[00:10:28.020]and the writing that you're doing, right?
[00:10:30.300]Just the articles, the book chapters,
[00:10:34.170]the websites that you are using for that piece right there,
[00:10:38.970]'cause that's really all you need,
[00:10:40.980]like, in order to get through
[00:10:44.130]and make that piece of technology useful
[00:10:46.860]for the writing that you're doing,
[00:10:47.970]that's really all you need.
[00:10:50.040]And the whole,
[00:10:52.327]"Oh, but I need everything in there," is a distraction.
[00:10:54.960]Yeah, it is a distraction.
[00:10:56.190]And it can be a time waster.
[00:10:58.020]So one of the things that I'm interested
[00:10:59.880]when I look at the software package like that
[00:11:02.160]is how easy it is to transition
[00:11:04.440]from this software to another.
[00:11:06.150]Because one is, EndNote has been with us for a long time,
[00:11:08.880]but we're not sure it's gonna be here forever.
[00:11:10.680]What happens if one day it ends
[00:11:12.510]and you still need to take all your information
[00:11:15.360]and go somewhere else?
[00:11:16.193]It also allows you, if you decide this is not good enough,
[00:11:19.770]to pack it up and go.
[00:11:21.300]And I think most RMSs are pretty good
[00:11:23.460]about being able to export.
[00:11:25.980]Yeah, having, I was in a situation,
[00:11:28.080]I was using an RMS called Papers.
[00:11:32.190]It played really well with Macs.
[00:11:33.570]This was at a time
[00:11:34.440]where not all the RMSs played well with Mac.
[00:11:37.680]Mac was becoming more and more of a power player
[00:11:41.160]in terms of machines,
[00:11:42.930]and it got bought out, and overnight this update happened,
[00:11:47.430]and I didn't recognize what my RMS was anymore,
[00:11:50.730]so I switched over to a different RMS Paperpile,
[00:11:54.390]and I've moved, I've jumped from,
[00:11:58.830]I'm kind of the opposite where I've jumped from RMS to RMS,
[00:12:02.772]to RMS, to RMS to RMS.
[00:12:04.530]And for the most part, it functions well.
[00:12:11.490]Like, I think in this last I'd recently,
[00:12:14.580]I recently went into EndNote this summer,
[00:12:17.190]and as I am importing 20 plus years of citations,
[00:12:24.840]I had maybe like 5% that were like, "This is incomplete."
[00:12:30.990]Okay, I'll deal with those when I have to.
[00:12:33.360]I'm not gonna worry about them right now, right?
[00:12:35.040]So, like, I find it productive
[00:12:40.170]to keep in mind what the technology,
[00:12:42.300]the purpose of the technology
[00:12:43.380]is not for me to collect all these things.
[00:12:44.850]These are not Stanley cups, right?
[00:12:48.150]But it is to help me write more efficiently.
[00:12:51.450]Are the articles,
[00:12:52.860]are the book chapters that I need right now in there,
[00:12:56.280]and are they accurate?
[00:12:57.450]Great. Moving on.
[00:12:59.820]I will deal with those, that 5% when it becomes important.
[00:13:04.020]Do I even need that 5%?
[00:13:05.392]If it becomes important.
[00:13:06.598]If it becomes important, right?
[00:13:07.710]Yeah. Yeah.
[00:13:09.240]So I think there's,
[00:13:10.980]it's a use the tool, don't let the tool use you.
[00:13:14.670]Yeah, and that's a really important thing
[00:13:16.440]about any of these pieces of software.
[00:13:18.420]There's always going to be a painful learning curve
[00:13:21.870]and usability curve that's going to happen early on.
[00:13:26.130]And that's fine.
[00:13:27.480]But if that pain continues indefinitely,
[00:13:30.120]you're just doing the wrong thing,
[00:13:31.890]and you need to choose something that is a better fit.
[00:13:36.960]And it's also, I've learned, for some people,
[00:13:39.660]it's a way to really procrastinate
[00:13:45.510]while seemingly productive.
[00:13:48.060]And that is, you can overspend time on a piece of software
[00:13:51.930]and avoid the real work that needs to be done
[00:13:54.150]because you are going back 20 years
[00:13:56.430]and trying to fix all of this.
[00:13:57.390]Productive procrastination, right?
[00:13:58.863]Yes. Yes.
[00:13:59.696]If my kitchen is sparkling clean,
[00:14:01.140]I have been engaging in productive procrastination,
[00:14:03.330]that is a sign.
[00:14:05.160]Yes.
[00:14:06.150]That is a sign.
[00:14:07.140]Yeah. Right?
[00:14:08.160]So yeah.
[00:14:09.926]Don't do that.
[00:14:10.759]But also recognize that as you're using that tool,
[00:14:16.890]and I've become more and more aware of this
[00:14:18.690]as I moved from one system to the next,
[00:14:21.960]is when you're starting to utilize a new tool,
[00:14:26.940]it's going to take time.
[00:14:28.410]Yeah. For sure.
[00:14:29.550]It's going to feel like,
[00:14:31.897]"Oh, this is not saving me any time."
[00:14:35.499]I've found myself as I'm moving into EndNote,
[00:14:38.553]and, I mean, it's what?
[00:14:42.510]I've been using it now for six months.
[00:14:45.292]Oh, that's all? Six months-ish.
[00:14:46.860]Okay.
[00:14:47.730]And it is,
[00:14:51.000]I remember when I first started it, going,
[00:14:54.397]"Oh my gosh, this takes so much time."
[00:14:57.090]Well, of course it does.
[00:14:57.923]I'm learning a whole new system.
[00:14:59.190]Like I need to be able to suck at this
[00:15:01.800]for a little bit before it becomes efficient.
[00:15:04.800]And now it's so much more efficient, right?
[00:15:07.830]Like, I've gotten the EndNote click thing figured out,
[00:15:11.850]and I've got it speaking to my,
[00:15:14.940]I've got it speaking to my Google Drive.
[00:15:18.657]And dah, dah, dah, dah.
[00:15:19.490]Like, all of that is figured out.
[00:15:21.270]But I would say the first three months
[00:15:23.070]was a lot of reminding myself of this is new, this is okay.
[00:15:29.190]And this is probably why I haven't engaged.
[00:15:31.650]Because the truth is that the citation,
[00:15:34.380]really, the emphasis on citations happen
[00:15:36.450]at the end of writing.
[00:15:38.250]And so you can ignore it for the longest time
[00:15:41.430]and just put empty parenthesis
[00:15:43.380]or, you know, something that reminds you of,
[00:15:46.530]and then at the end, you suddenly have a pile of work
[00:15:49.350]that you could have completely avoided
[00:15:50.880]by having a good piece of software
[00:15:53.880]that would just make that transition so much easier.
[00:15:56.640]And then you don't get the comments about, you know,
[00:15:59.460]you're formatting on your references.
[00:16:02.610]And it's just fairly painful to go through
[00:16:05.880]and attend to all of those details.
[00:16:08.490]So that's where it comes super,
[00:16:11.460]I would argue super helpful at the end point.
[00:16:14.670]And that's easy to avoid at the beginning, so.
[00:16:17.817]And I think about that as we transition from that,
[00:16:21.900]if that's okay, to talk about data analysis.
[00:16:24.900]So in data analysis,
[00:16:26.670]there are great pieces of software, quote,
[00:16:28.297]"for quantitative analysis,"
[00:16:29.880]that have been there for a long time.
[00:16:31.530]And again, I think that learning them
[00:16:33.540]while you're taking the classes
[00:16:34.920]that do that work is fantastic
[00:16:37.140]because then people help and guide you
[00:16:39.030]and give you a lot of references,
[00:16:40.800]probably a few books that help you work through them.
[00:16:43.800]So that's useful.
[00:16:44.880]And that has been done a lot.
[00:16:46.230]On the qualitative side,
[00:16:47.700]there are quite a few interesting pieces
[00:16:49.770]of software out there.
[00:16:52.650]But I know a lot of people who don't work with any software.
[00:16:56.190]And I think it's the same problem as with the RMS.
[00:17:00.150]And that is, if you have a piece of software,
[00:17:03.380]it really becomes easier to go back
[00:17:07.440]and reinforce and add to, and be more agile with it.
[00:17:12.090]And if you don't, can you do the analysis? Absolutely.
[00:17:15.480]People do that all the time.
[00:17:16.680]And it also depends, obviously, in qualitative,
[00:17:19.800]what kind of qualitative analysis you do.
[00:17:22.650]But that ability to add to it, to layer it,
[00:17:27.270]to ask interesting questions depending on where the data is,
[00:17:31.980]becomes much, much stronger
[00:17:33.780]where you have a piece of software.
[00:17:35.280]Because if you do it manually,
[00:17:37.260]there's a point where your brain is saying,
[00:17:38.917]"That's enough," right?
[00:17:40.777]"You can't add to this
[00:17:43.050]because it's more than I can contain."
[00:17:45.090]And software just leverage that, leverages that.
[00:17:48.077]Right, software helps you manage, right?
[00:17:50.850]And make sense of in slightly different ways,
[00:17:56.010]and this is again,
[00:17:58.920]if you're a grad student
[00:18:00.090]and you're thinking about qualitative data software
[00:18:04.950]or SPSS, a quantitative software,
[00:18:08.850]any kind of software really
[00:18:10.050]is going to cost some amount of money
[00:18:12.270]if it's not provided to you by your institution.
[00:18:16.830]And so the first thing that I always try to think through
[00:18:20.730]as I'm thinking about a software for analysis is,
[00:18:23.670]what are the functions that I need?
[00:18:24.990]What are the demands of the project that I'm working with?
[00:18:28.560]And then two, what is my budget?
[00:18:31.200]And do I have, again,
[00:18:33.720]can I sustain a subscription model for a piece of software?
[00:18:37.980]I really like Deduce.
[00:18:39.000]Deduce is a qualitative software platform,
[00:18:44.970]but it's a subscription.
[00:18:46.530]So every month it's- Yeah, I know.
[00:18:48.990]like $17.
[00:18:50.713]I get that announcement on my Deduce.
[00:18:52.920]You have not paid in a while.
[00:18:54.510]Yep. Yeah.
[00:18:55.470]And so I've, not sponsored,
[00:18:58.530]the qualitative software and analysis
[00:19:03.180]that I like the most is Transana.
[00:19:07.920]I've used them since grad school, which is a very long time.
[00:19:15.180]There's two things that are important with Transana
[00:19:17.700]that I've really appreciated is one,
[00:19:22.440]it handles a wide variety of data and data format.
[00:19:27.000]So, like, I can analyze PDFs, I can analyze audio,
[00:19:30.660]I can analyze video, I can analyze text,
[00:19:33.300]it tackles it all.
[00:19:36.120]And David Woods,
[00:19:38.640]who's one of the original creators of the software,
[00:19:41.400]like, if you email him, he responds back
[00:19:45.300]within, like, 48 hours.
[00:19:47.160]Like, that's what I aspire to
[00:19:50.340]is returning email in 48 hours.
[00:19:52.440]And he somehow manages to do it
[00:19:54.540]and will literally talk you through
[00:19:56.970]or be like- Whatever you're doing, yeah.
[00:19:58.391]here's the tutorial.
[00:19:59.700]And, or take feedback.
[00:20:01.340]'Cause like PDFs was something I was begging for,
[00:20:05.250]and he was like, "Yep, no problem.
[00:20:08.036]Here it finally is.
[00:20:09.660]Like, thanks for thanks for being patient."
[00:20:12.660]And it works well, right?
[00:20:15.690]And so, thinking through not only cost,
[00:20:19.320]but like, what is going to give you
[00:20:22.050]the most bang for your buck?
[00:20:22.950]What is gonna be not just for this project
[00:20:26.310]but adaptable to other projects?
[00:20:28.080]And that's where asking around
[00:20:30.600]and looking at comments online.
[00:20:33.420]Because one thing that is hidden until you get the product
[00:20:36.330]and start interacting is the customer support.
[00:20:39.720]And customer support is critical
[00:20:41.250]because all of these pieces of software,
[00:20:43.680]there's a moment where you're like,
[00:20:45.007]"I need to help figuring this out.
[00:20:47.490]And I can probably do that, but I don't have the time."
[00:20:50.130]And somebody has figured that out.
[00:20:52.020]So understanding if there are user groups,
[00:20:55.470]that's one option.
[00:20:56.400]And the other option is how long before they respond to you
[00:21:00.150]and give you support.
[00:21:00.983]I started with ATLAS.ti as a graduate student.
[00:21:03.510]It's still my preference,
[00:21:05.010]although I've used Deduce.
[00:21:06.000]I've used a number of them,
[00:21:07.590]but they've always been fairly responsive.
[00:21:10.530]And so it was,
[00:21:13.890]and they have the two options.
[00:21:15.540]So they, for example, just as an example,
[00:21:17.580]again, thinking about cost,
[00:21:18.870]they have a permanent license, just buy, download.
[00:21:22.590]You don't get a lot of updates.
[00:21:23.880]So you get an updates up to a point,
[00:21:25.680]but it'll keep working on your machine.
[00:21:28.320]They'll keep supporting it.
[00:21:29.760]You just won't have the newest best thing maybe,
[00:21:33.240]or maybe you will,
[00:21:34.650]but they also have a subscription model
[00:21:36.810]that you can start off
[00:21:38.460]and keep paying on whatever annual, semi-annual, or monthly.
[00:21:43.470]Everybody's got all of these pricing structures.
[00:21:46.020]I agree with you.
[00:21:46.980]I like paying once
[00:21:48.090]and knowing that I have a piece of software
[00:21:49.680]instead of trying to remember to renew every month
[00:21:52.710]or just when I need, and all of that.
[00:21:55.500]That creates just more friction where I need no friction.
[00:21:58.590]I just need to be able to go and do the analysis.
[00:22:02.430]And I'm also a little bit worried
[00:22:04.200]about having our data floating in the ether,
[00:22:06.750]and we trust them to create,
[00:22:10.590]to make sure that there's protections.
[00:22:12.480]But the minute it gets sent into the cloud,
[00:22:15.090]I'm a little bit worried, so you need to de-identify before.
[00:22:18.600]And there's just more layers that you have to go through
[00:22:21.960]to make sure that if anything happens,
[00:22:25.230]that your participants are predicted as you promised to.
[00:22:28.800]Right, right. And that's-
[00:22:30.540]And that's something to consider.
[00:22:31.770]So those are the things that I think about.
[00:22:33.750]But again, starting early.
[00:22:35.700]Buy it when you're a graduate student, or try it out.
[00:22:37.920]It's usually priced for graduate students
[00:22:40.080]in a different way,
[00:22:41.400]so that's easy.
[00:22:42.480]And if you get a position and you're starting somewhere,
[00:22:46.710]use your startup funds to get your basic software needs.
[00:22:49.650]And again, perpetual licenses are better
[00:22:51.600]because startup funds are once.
[00:22:53.910]You get them when you start, and then you don't have them.
[00:22:56.400]So not having to maintain licenses
[00:22:59.970]would make your life a lot easier to manage
[00:23:02.610]when you're earning less
[00:23:04.590]and you're very likely to use these pieces
[00:23:07.290]of software repeatedly.
[00:23:09.840]Right.
[00:23:10.673]And I think to,
[00:23:14.730]to come back to a larger theme,
[00:23:16.620]like, don't worry about starting early.
[00:23:18.600]Just worry about starting.
[00:23:19.740]Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
[00:23:21.270]Wherever you are.
[00:23:22.380]Like, just start,
[00:23:26.220]and use it as you need in that moment.
[00:23:30.030]Like there's no need to backfill, right?
[00:23:34.320]I also recently updated my Transana.
[00:23:37.530]The other thing that I like about, again, not sponsored,
[00:23:40.500]not a subscription,
[00:23:42.810]but they do have this process by which you get the next,
[00:23:47.130]I believe it's the next update
[00:23:48.808]for a very reduced price, Reduced fee.
[00:23:52.440]which is always nice, that that's out there.
[00:23:58.140]But like the,
[00:24:00.210]with some of the new features, again,
[00:24:02.250]that notion of like,
[00:24:03.690]it's taken me a little while to get used to them,
[00:24:05.670]and they're really handy.
[00:24:07.500]But again, I'm wrestling with that.
[00:24:09.210]Like, I already know this software, this should be easier.
[00:24:13.440]Yes, but this is a new feature,
[00:24:16.170]and this is something that's gonna really help me
[00:24:18.810]so it's worth investing in.
[00:24:21.480]I also did not backload all of my old projects.
[00:24:26.340]Oh yeah, for sure. That's an easier thing.
[00:24:28.680]Those all live on my external hard drive.
[00:24:30.810]If I need them, they're there.
[00:24:32.550]But because I've worked with Transana for so many years,
[00:24:37.350]they're there.
[00:24:38.280]I know I have them.
[00:24:39.540]Like my dissertation,
[00:24:40.590]I still have all those Transana files,
[00:24:42.480]so, like, I can go back to those if I need to.
[00:24:45.630]Yeah.
[00:24:47.580]But yeah, I think the biggest thing is,
[00:24:51.570]is start and take advantage of free trials of things.
[00:24:58.440]And if they give you two,
[00:25:01.560]I know a lot of RMSs, for instance,
[00:25:04.230]I'm working with RMSs with grad students in 953,
[00:25:08.760]our academic writing class.
[00:25:10.710]And I ask them to take different RMSs for test drives
[00:25:15.180]and for two weeks, really use those RMSs,
[00:25:19.320]and what do they look like,
[00:25:20.250]and what do you like about this one,
[00:25:22.230]and what do you like about this one?
[00:25:24.330]And if they already have an RMS,
[00:25:27.554]they tend to stick with the one that they've already got.
[00:25:29.550]Which makes sense, right?
[00:25:31.020]Up to a point.
[00:25:31.890]But I think that idea of a test drive with an RMS,
[00:25:36.810]because there are issues around ease of use
[00:25:39.930]on both on the entry
[00:25:41.640]and on how easy it is to merge into your software.
[00:25:44.790]And suddenly you find out that thing
[00:25:46.740]is so much better than what I'm using,
[00:25:48.600]it's worth switching to.
[00:25:49.800]Same thing with data analysis, I would argue.
[00:25:51.540]And I've had some students, like, switch RMSs, right?
[00:25:56.430]And same thing with, again, that analysis piece.
[00:25:59.490]Like, if you've got,
[00:26:01.170]if you get a month free subscription,
[00:26:04.830]what's a chunk of analysis
[00:26:06.600]that you can do in depth for a month?
[00:26:08.790]Get a sense of how that software works.
[00:26:11.610]Is that gonna work
[00:26:12.600]when you explode it into a larger project?
[00:26:16.620]Is that going to make sense for you, right?
[00:26:19.770]So taking advantage of those
[00:26:20.940]because you don't want to invest, not a ton of money,
[00:26:25.770]but, like, some of these,
[00:26:26.730]some of these programs are expensive.
[00:26:27.960]Some of the software is expensive.
[00:26:29.340]So you don't want to, you don't want to invest in,
[00:26:34.710]it's like you don't wanna invest in clothes you don't wear-
[00:26:37.320]That is definitely true.
[00:26:38.520]you don't wanna invest in software
[00:26:39.960]that you're not gonna use. Absolutely.
[00:26:41.940]It may not be the, like, most streamlined,
[00:26:46.170]like Transcend is not particularly streamlined.
[00:26:48.240]However, it gets the job done, and I like it.
[00:26:51.630]And that's important.
[00:26:52.800]Eventually it is,
[00:26:54.060]there's a point where it's just as important.
[00:26:57.000]I mean, there might be something
[00:26:58.050]that is a little bit better,
[00:26:59.220]but if it's a little bit better,
[00:27:00.420]but you know the thing you have
[00:27:02.610]and you know how to make it go,
[00:27:03.930]that's going, the efficiency there is tremendous.
[00:27:07.260]I'm trying to remember,
[00:27:08.093]what was the qualitative software?
[00:27:10.890]It was really popular, like three or four years ago.
[00:27:13.320]Studio, something.
[00:27:17.160]I don't know.
[00:27:18.000]It'll come to me.
[00:27:19.290]I could never play around with it
[00:27:20.340]because it was, like- Inaccessible.
[00:27:23.070]a thousand dollars.
[00:27:24.270]Oh, okay. Yeah.
[00:27:26.730]And that just was not, that's not in my budget.
[00:27:30.180]I don't have money for that.
[00:27:31.830]And that's been always one of those questions,
[00:27:35.160]the question of price is a really important question,
[00:27:37.800]and that's what sometimes turns you off
[00:27:39.330]from a piece of software.
[00:27:40.500]For a while, SPSS when they got bought up by IBM,
[00:27:45.090]the price jumped, and it became impossible
[00:27:48.000]to really have a full license.
[00:27:49.710]I used to have an SPSS with all the bells and whistles,
[00:27:53.490]and I had to give all the bells and whistles away.
[00:27:56.040]Now I, in quantitative, which is more my jam in many ways,
[00:28:02.460]I have three or four pieces of software that I use,
[00:28:05.250]depending on what I want.
[00:28:06.390]So SPSS is really good for me
[00:28:07.890]for just getting quick results.
[00:28:09.420]But the agility and the ability to do some programming
[00:28:13.320]and get finer-grained results leads me back to SaaS usually,
[00:28:18.332]and I use also HLM.
[00:28:21.180]So it really depended for a long time
[00:28:23.640]about what was the use case, going back to use case.
[00:28:27.870]And in qualitative, I've used a few as well.
[00:28:30.570]So it's gotta be something manageable
[00:28:33.030]from a cost perspective because you can't hold all of these.
[00:28:35.820]Now more and more campuses create campus-wide licenses.
[00:28:40.770]We definitely do with the survey with Qualtrics,
[00:28:43.920]which is great
[00:28:44.940]because then you don't have to spend the money
[00:28:47.070]and it is secure,
[00:28:48.780]which is really important when you're conducting research,
[00:28:51.450]unlike throwing something on Google Forms
[00:28:55.080]and hoping that it'll be okay.
[00:28:57.772]Which I'm seeing way too much, to be honest.
[00:29:00.540]And so those are the things that are kind of on my mind
[00:29:03.420]as you're trying to find what you can get.
[00:29:06.360]So as a graduate student, go and try things out.
[00:29:09.030]As a young assistant professor.
[00:29:10.590]But actually, at any point, get the trial period.
[00:29:13.703]Start. Two weeks.
[00:29:15.360]Start. Do something with it,
[00:29:17.100]see if it works for you.
[00:29:18.150]You'll find something that is so much more amazing.
[00:29:20.880]Or it's like, no, I like what I have, and that's fine.
[00:29:23.820]But don't avoid trying
[00:29:26.400]just because this is what you have
[00:29:29.229]and this is what you know.
[00:29:31.350]Try to move forward.
[00:29:32.490]Says the person.
[00:29:33.480]It's good to date every once in a while.
[00:29:34.500]Put yourself out there, you know?
[00:29:37.320]Just as long as,
[00:29:39.450]as long as it's, you know, ethical.
[00:29:41.820]But, like, you know, like,
[00:29:43.740]see what else is out there every once in a while.
[00:29:45.600]What is happening?
[00:29:47.430]Could you use it?
[00:29:48.510]And then, if you go back to what you,
[00:29:50.250]if you go back to your comfort zone,
[00:29:54.840]it's perfectly fine, right?
[00:29:57.180]But, like, if there's stuff out there
[00:29:58.260]that will allow you to do things differently,
[00:30:00.840]it pushes your ability
[00:30:02.400]to think through what's possible, right?
[00:30:04.680]Like Deduce has pushed me to think
[00:30:06.180]through different ways to use Transana
[00:30:09.090]minus the monthly subscription fee, right?
[00:30:12.480]Resolution for 2024. Get my financial house in order.
[00:30:16.350]So no subscriptions. At all?
[00:30:20.670]Lies.
[00:30:21.664]I do have a cycle for streaming services.
[00:30:24.540]So I am in an HBO Max and Amazon Prime phase.
[00:30:29.839]That's my cyclist streaming life at the moment.
[00:30:32.640]We're gonna move into Hulu as Amazon Prime goes away.
[00:30:37.200]But, like, trying to be better
[00:30:39.390]'cause oof those subscriptions.
[00:30:41.580]Yeah.
[00:30:42.690]I did want to bring out also an important point
[00:30:45.900]about cloud storage, or storage in general,
[00:30:48.750]and especially as a graduate student,
[00:30:51.090]but even as a faculty member,
[00:30:53.070]realizing that you're not gonna be forever
[00:30:55.920]at the same place,
[00:30:56.850]says the person who's been here for 22 years.
[00:30:59.100]But you have to think about if and when, right?
[00:31:06.167]You are moving, you get a job as a graduate student,
[00:31:08.580]or you move to a new institution,
[00:31:10.920]you have to think about how does your data move with you.
[00:31:13.890]Because the institution always provides cloud storage,
[00:31:17.400]but it is the institution's cloud storage, not yours.
[00:31:20.700]So you have to think about,
[00:31:22.440]do I have an external drive where I back things up?
[00:31:26.100]Do I have a cloud storage
[00:31:28.470]that is not linked to my university
[00:31:30.900]that I can back up some files,
[00:31:33.510]and you have to think about security,
[00:31:35.190]but definitely ownership there.
[00:31:38.640]So as someone who has not been here for 22 years,
[00:31:41.040]and who has moved institutions a couple of different times.
[00:31:46.050]One thing to keep in mind is like when you leave a position,
[00:31:53.160]when you come into a position, you get a laptop, right?
[00:31:56.370]Or a computer of some sort.
[00:31:57.960]When you leave a position, you give up that laptop too.
[00:32:01.470]So you have to think through what is your plan
[00:32:07.050]for technology transition, right?
[00:32:10.650]In between those jobs when you're,
[00:32:13.350]when you are moving from being a graduate student
[00:32:17.940]to being an assistant professor.
[00:32:19.530]And then, if you move, what is your plan for that?
[00:32:23.670]I've always fallen on the side of,
[00:32:28.740]I like a good encrypted, solid-state drive, quite honestly.
[00:32:34.380]It backs up nightly.
[00:32:37.650]It just helps me feel better about, like, where's my data?
[00:32:41.730]And I literally have images of every computer
[00:32:45.180]from dissertation computer on that hard drive.
[00:32:50.970]That's one of those things that I bought myself.
[00:32:55.500]Because with startup funds,
[00:32:57.690]technically, the institution still owns that technology.
[00:33:01.260]So if it's something that I am moving with,
[00:33:05.850]and at that point, I didn't have enough money
[00:33:07.860]to buy a totally separate computer, right?
[00:33:10.740]So I bought a hard drive,
[00:33:13.560]and that's what I used as a transitionary point.
[00:33:16.230]And then when I moved here,
[00:33:18.150]I don't know if you remember that summer
[00:33:19.140]trying to work on that grant,
[00:33:20.700]and I was working on my iPad Pro, that was not a smart move.
[00:33:25.290]Like, that was not a productive.
[00:33:27.390]Like, I was able to be somewhat productive.
[00:33:29.340]But it's not a productivity device.
[00:33:31.020]No, it is not.
[00:33:31.860]So I don't think that I would go in that direction again.
[00:33:37.380]But if you're looking to avoid, again that subscription,
[00:33:43.770]solid-state drive,
[00:33:45.930]you can use it as a backup on your computer,
[00:33:47.490]which you should normally do anyway.
[00:33:50.070]And then that provides a transitionary plan
[00:33:54.330]as you move from one device to the next,
[00:33:56.100]one institution to the next.
[00:33:57.420]And even within institutions,
[00:33:59.430]as your computer, you know,
[00:34:01.530]wears out and you move into a new computer,
[00:34:04.890]that's helpful to just,
[00:34:07.140]oh, got a new computer, I'm gonna hook up my SSD.
[00:34:10.530]And I can get everything, yeah.
[00:34:12.180]Poof.
[00:34:13.013]It's, you know,
[00:34:14.549]it's like River Song in "Dr. Who."
[00:34:17.340]It's just there, right?
[00:34:18.900]That's a good reference.
[00:34:19.950]And, you know, like, it just,
[00:34:21.420]it lives in the hard drive and poof.
[00:34:23.340]It's like I don't have a new computer,
[00:34:26.130]but I have a new computer.
[00:34:27.510]It's faster, but all my stuff is here.
[00:34:29.670]It's like the best-case scenario for moving.
[00:34:33.750]Yeah, that's actually, if you have that,
[00:34:36.060]it's the easiest part of moving.
[00:34:37.680]Oh yeah, no, it's totally the easiest part of moving, so.
[00:34:40.167]And that's the thing,
[00:34:41.550]because having seen a few people go through,
[00:34:44.597]"Oh, oops, my computer has crapped up."
[00:34:50.220]If you are backed up, the transition is minimal.
[00:34:53.520]It really becomes just a box, and you can use any other box,
[00:34:57.630]and within a few minutes you have access to everything,
[00:35:00.540]so you've lost nothing, and that's good.
[00:35:03.000]Well, and I think that, I think backing things up
[00:35:07.380]is perhaps if you take anything from this podcast,
[00:35:14.184]I think it would be to back your stuff up
[00:35:18.930]and have that somewhere that's not on this computer.
[00:35:21.630]Because regardless of,
[00:35:23.640]you might have the best RMS software,
[00:35:26.100]the best analysis software,
[00:35:28.140]and you might have done all this beautiful work.
[00:35:30.240]It ain't gonna matter if your computer fails
[00:35:33.000]and you don't have that backed up somewhere.
[00:35:35.280]So if you're thinking about utilizing this software,
[00:35:40.140]think about that backup plan,
[00:35:43.740]because stuff happens.
[00:35:45.600]Yes, absolutely. Stuff happens.
[00:35:47.400]Videos disappear, right?
[00:35:50.820]Things go away.
[00:35:52.590]And then, if you have a backup to go back to,
[00:35:57.000]like, that's essential.
[00:36:01.050]Don't assume it's always gonna be there.
[00:36:02.730]Yeah, and once you do,
[00:36:04.620]and this was my experience the last few times
[00:36:06.780]when I had a problem with my computer,
[00:36:08.790]is I borrowed another computer
[00:36:10.650]just for a period while this one.
[00:36:12.330]It's like, you know, the car is in the shop
[00:36:14.490]and I've got a replacement car,
[00:36:17.160]but within five minutes I'm running.
[00:36:20.190]It's like, it doesn't matter, really.
[00:36:22.620]It's just a box. Instantly moving.
[00:36:23.910]Yeah. Right, right.
[00:36:25.530]Like, things should not,
[00:36:28.080]this should not be the home, right?
[00:36:29.730]This is the tool for things, right?
[00:36:32.430]This is really the interface at this point in our lives.
[00:36:35.340]Yeah. All right.
[00:36:36.450]So we've talked about RMSs.
[00:36:40.110]We talked about- Analytical software.
[00:36:43.680]And finally, back things up.
[00:36:46.560]Back that hard drive up, back it up.
[00:36:51.150]Make like a pickup truck, put it in reverse, and back it up.
[00:36:56.730]Yep.
[00:36:58.767]Is that, like, enough? That is it.
[00:37:01.343]Okay. We are done.
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