Space, Cyber and Telecom Concentration Informational Session January 25, 2022

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An informational session on concentrations in Space, Cyber, Telecom, Technology, National Security or other topics related to our program.

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[00:00:02.580]Elsbeth Magilton: Alright, and we'll go ahead and get started with our discussion on concentrations and space cyber Telecom.
[00:00:09.360]Elsbeth Magilton: Technology national security any of those kind of topics that that dovetail into the curriculum that we offer in the space cyber telecom program as well as the nebraska governance and technology Center.
[00:00:20.700]Elsbeth Magilton: Again, my name is beth Middleton i'm the executive director for our program I think i've met most of you at some of our club events or other things around like college, but it's wonderful to see you.
[00:00:33.300]Elsbeth Magilton: so quickly and i'm not I promise to not read slides to you, but I wanted to put the actual rule language that you'll find on the documents that are part of the concentration process on to the slides.
[00:00:45.270]Elsbeth Magilton: So the program of concentrated study is designed for students who want to focus on a particular subject area during their time at the College.
[00:00:51.900]Elsbeth Magilton: And if you look around and i'll give you kind of the information on the website here in a moment you'll see that.
[00:00:58.740]Elsbeth Magilton: there's some pre baked programs that we have at the College say hey you want to focus on trial advocacy hey you want to focus on this here's the classes you're going to take, we also have an individualized Program.
[00:01:09.270]Elsbeth Magilton: That you can put together yourself with a faculty Member to specialize in some of these areas.
[00:01:14.880]Elsbeth Magilton: And that is the type of program that most of the students in the space cyber and telecom program do.
[00:01:21.630]Elsbeth Magilton: And it allows you a little bit more flexibility, we have a lot of credit hours and space cyber and telecom we have over 30 credit hours, which would be twofold concentrations.
[00:01:32.970]Elsbeth Magilton: That are kind of considered ours and and then, of course, there are some adjacent classes, that I think are also really useful that might apply towards our concentrations.
[00:01:40.350]Elsbeth Magilton: that are technically not even ours right or that are that are part of the space ever telecom Program.
[00:01:45.150]Elsbeth Magilton: And so it felt a little limiting to create just a space cyber and telecom concentration and so, then we started thinking about how we would create it for different subject areas.
[00:01:53.820]Elsbeth Magilton: And then we thought, but gosh if they want to go, commercial and sort of government or if they want to do this, instead of that and it just.
[00:02:00.600]Elsbeth Magilton: There was so many different options, which is a huge asset to our program but also made it really difficult to create a formalized program of study for this subject area in our curriculum.
[00:02:12.090]Elsbeth Magilton: That is something we're still exploring for the future and would welcome student feedback on if we think, maybe a few of those options and then, as well as the individualized.
[00:02:19.530]Elsbeth Magilton: might be useful, but at this point we are solely the individualized program of concentrated study and.
[00:02:26.940]Elsbeth Magilton: The things to think about with a program of concentrated study or to start with what sort of classes or you're interested in your subject area.
[00:02:34.140]Elsbeth Magilton: How you're going to sequence those and then, knowing that at the end you're going to receive that certificate, some people kind of think about.
[00:02:41.490]Elsbeth Magilton: These concentrations as a major or minor i'm actually a little hesitant parts having students do that you don't need a concentration to graduate from law school, this is something that I would use as.
[00:02:52.920]Elsbeth Magilton: An opportunity on your resume and as an opportunity.
[00:02:56.940]Elsbeth Magilton: When you're talking to employers and when it's not necessarily a major minor, you should be focused on the law and law school, first and foremost, and then adding this as something supplemental to help you reach some of your kind of subject matter goals.
[00:03:11.040]Elsbeth Magilton: So the logistics of this right, how do you do this, so the first piece is finding the form on the website right simple as that.
[00:03:18.480]Elsbeth Magilton: This is there's a link here to the individualized web page that you can go to.
[00:03:23.430]Elsbeth Magilton: But then also here is kind of the menu navigation, so if you go to current students, academics programs of concentrated study.
[00:03:29.790]Elsbeth Magilton: you'll scroll down, I think the third one on, there is the individualized programs, and then you can go to that page, and from that page, you can download your own form and it gives you a few more details about.
[00:03:39.570]Elsbeth Magilton: Some suggested programs of individualized study here at the law school space cyber and telecom is on that list.
[00:03:46.380]Elsbeth Magilton: And then, most importantly, like I said it gives you the form and you're going to see some of the language that's on the slides on that form it did that on purpose to make sure that we're all on the same page.
[00:03:54.840]Elsbeth Magilton: But that is really the first place to start your drafting print out a couple copies of it, or you know download it electronically, so you can start typing into it and start thinking about and planning I use that form to help students plan.
[00:04:07.980]Elsbeth Magilton: And so it's a great place to start and I encourage you to start there by downloading that form and taking a look at the Rules and how the process is going to be navigated.
[00:04:18.630]Elsbeth Magilton: So the first thing is that it must be developed in consultation with a sponsoring faculty Member and a subject to approval by the D.
[00:04:26.190]Elsbeth Magilton: So this sometimes freaks out the space every telecom students, because they want to come talk to me here, they want to talk to Joe they want to talk to somebody else that is always okay before you go talk to a faculty Member right if you have questions.
[00:04:40.290]Elsbeth Magilton: about what you want to do, how you're going to sequence these classes does this title make sense, who what faculty Member do I even talked to.
[00:04:49.200]Elsbeth Magilton: You can always start with us right, we will not be the ones who will sign this form it doesn't ultimately a professor to sign it.
[00:04:57.330]Elsbeth Magilton: But we can help you navigate through that process, I do want to quickly note Jill.
[00:05:02.760]Elsbeth Magilton: mentioned in the comments to me that that form is also available just print it out on the document form in front of the student affairs office right So if you don't want to go through the website or download it electronically, you can actually go pick up a paper copy.
[00:05:14.820]Elsbeth Magilton: That you can get your hands on today and take a look at what that what that is.
[00:05:18.960]Elsbeth Magilton: And the key thing I said to note here is that you do need faculty approval, but you can always start with us and you can start talking to your peers and map it out 15 ways to Sunday before you settle on exactly how you want to do it.
[00:05:31.320]Elsbeth Magilton: The flip side of that you can do that with your faculty to write, they are going to bite you they're nice people.
[00:05:36.750]Elsbeth Magilton: it's okay to go to one of them, if you know that there's questions you have that are specific to those individuals.
[00:05:42.180]Elsbeth Magilton: that are going to be useful, so to do feel open to set those appointments with them talk to them about what how they would advise doing it.
[00:05:49.140]Elsbeth Magilton: You know I have audited, most of our classes, but it's been quite a few years on, some of them, the professors are teaching them they know precisely what they're doing and each one of those rooms and they're going to have great feedback for you.
[00:06:01.680]Elsbeth Magilton: So it needs to be at least 15 credit hours, like, I mentioned the space cyber telecom program planes about 32 hours of that are ours right that are our courses taught by our faculty.
[00:06:12.960]Elsbeth Magilton: That are open to our LM and our gds there are other classes, though in the building that very often are part of these concentrations and great examples administrative law we use administrative law in a ton of different classes.
[00:06:26.310]Elsbeth Magilton: Are terrific concentrations because it's so important to heavily regulated industries such as space and then also in data compliance anything that was kind of cyber related.
[00:06:35.220]Elsbeth Magilton: So there are other classes, above and beyond just admin that sometimes fit into these so.
[00:06:41.130]Elsbeth Magilton: You have a lot of options, which again kind of underscores why it's kind of continued to be an individualized program of concentration, because there's so many different ways to put this puzzle, together with these different classes.
[00:06:53.910]Elsbeth Magilton: To build your concentration and then name it accordingly and then think about it, and that way.
[00:06:58.800]Elsbeth Magilton: I also want to mention I believe you can use an externship so we've seen students who also have used, you know if they did a two hour or one hour externship with a certain office you can use that towards your concentration, assuming that it's related to the concentration area.
[00:07:16.050]Elsbeth Magilton: So, this must be declared at the big before the beginning of your third year and this one's pretty important, I know I maybe seen one or two students who have sneaked through two or three weeks after third year started.
[00:07:26.670]Elsbeth Magilton: But we really, really need people to file these sooner than later, you can post date things though right so say you get through half of two L and you've already turned one in and then you think.
[00:07:39.630]Elsbeth Magilton: I think I should have titled that differently or gosh I was going to do these two, but now I want this instead.
[00:07:46.020]Elsbeth Magilton: that's Okay, you can go back and build it using classes you've already taken and your first semester of to a year.
[00:07:52.050]Elsbeth Magilton: or during the summer of your to l right, so you could have taken classes, without the intention of it being part of a program of concentrated study and then go back and list those classes, that would count towards a concentration.
[00:08:02.940]Elsbeth Magilton: But we do really need those forms turned in before you're a three hour to make sure that when everything happens at the end of three all semester or first semester.
[00:08:10.920]Elsbeth Magilton: And you start applying for graduation and are finishing up that you get your certificate right and you get everything signed.
[00:08:16.560]Elsbeth Magilton: From the administrative perspective that's kind of an important piece, and those are turned into vicki so it's a really easy process it's one forum, you need a signature, but that deadline is something that we really take pretty seriously.
[00:08:30.990]Elsbeth Magilton: You can complete two programs of concentrated study but no more than two right, so you know that this doesn't you don't have to start collecting said concentrations you don't have to do too.
[00:08:41.580]Elsbeth Magilton: But it is an option out there, and one thing I like to talk about a little more is that I often recommend them, depending on what your concentration is, and when I say that I mean doubling up doing two.
[00:08:52.290]Elsbeth Magilton: So, particularly for space focuses right, if you want to do straight up commercial space or military space or something that is entirely focused on the space sector.
[00:09:02.550]Elsbeth Magilton: I think that's fantastic, and I am very proud that we have enough curriculum here to make that happen for our students.
[00:09:08.910]Elsbeth Magilton: But I also like to be honest with students, that this is a growing but still small industry, very few people have a space job their first job out of law school.
[00:09:18.480]Elsbeth Magilton: underline and talents emphasize it's it's a really competitive industry a good chunk of the jobs are in house counsel, which normally want five to 10 years of experience.
[00:09:31.050]Elsbeth Magilton: And it's just it's not super likely or government to most of the positions that are in the commercial space offices are going to be lateral moves, meaning that you have to get into the government and other way first and another office.
[00:09:42.450]Elsbeth Magilton: So this is a great way to diversify your resume because it is still useful to get that space concentration, even though that first job might not be in the space sector.
[00:09:52.350]Elsbeth Magilton: Because you might still be getting government experience or commercial experience right.
[00:09:56.970]Elsbeth Magilton: And when you want to loop back two or three or four or five years into your career, then you have that on your resume to show your interest in space, so that way you're not just some other lawyer was two to five years of experience.
[00:10:08.850]Elsbeth Magilton: who's applying for a space job you're a lawyer, with two to five years of experience, who also has a concentration in space law and and dedicated work on the subject area right.
[00:10:17.250]Elsbeth Magilton: So it's still a really useful thing to do, long term career goal setting.
[00:10:21.750]Elsbeth Magilton: um but because it's not So the first thing you're going to do, I also like students to think about what will the first job look like.
[00:10:28.200]Elsbeth Magilton: What am I interested in applying for where do I want to go cut my teeth, as a new lawyer and get my experience and.
[00:10:35.550]Elsbeth Magilton: You can also do, one that is specifically space one of those specifically cyber but what some of the other compliments that I see are a little bit more kind of traditional legal concentrations.
[00:10:44.850]Elsbeth Magilton: Coupled with those right, which would be some ones that make a lot of sense would be international law.
[00:10:49.650]Elsbeth Magilton: Any of the business business transactions environmental administrative or government or national security are often things that we see paired together, where there's probably a little bit more of the entry level job market focus there, and if that makes sense to pair together well.
[00:11:07.560]Elsbeth Magilton: So for naming your concentration, first of all don't feel like you have to get super creative with this, you can use space cyber and telecommunications law Program.
[00:11:16.620]Elsbeth Magilton: And depending on where you're applying and what you're doing there's some name recognition there right, we are a 10 year old program we do a ton of work with different law firms and.
[00:11:25.470]Elsbeth Magilton: organizations and within apart across the Department of Defense you know all over so depending on where you're applying you may want the brand recognition, so to speak, of the program name and that's a okay.
[00:11:36.630]Elsbeth Magilton: But I also like people to be intentional about how they think about this, there is also kind of a gaming the system part of this right, which are what words does the HR HR software hit on.
[00:11:47.340]Elsbeth Magilton: Particularly if you want to work for the government if you're looking at USA jobs getting through the monster behemoth that is USA jobs, sometimes using some keywords is really helpful and so that might mean national security that might mean military that might meet administrative.
[00:12:03.510]Elsbeth Magilton: So thinking through some of the words that might make sense for the types of jobs that you're looking for.
[00:12:08.760]Elsbeth Magilton: How i'm going to recommend you do, that I am not the keyword queen I have experienced for helping other students but I don't necessarily know which ones are going to be the best.
[00:12:16.410]Elsbeth Magilton: So I would go ahead and create yourself a USA jobs account if working for the government is your end goal.
[00:12:21.990]Elsbeth Magilton: And look at the jobs that you're eligible for we're looking at some entry level legal jobs and then look at the words and the requirement list.
[00:12:29.310]Elsbeth Magilton: Right and you can pretty quickly start to see some other words that are going to repeat that might make sense.
[00:12:34.260]Elsbeth Magilton: So if you put in a little bit of that legwork to say oh here's here's the words they're looking for.
[00:12:39.750]Elsbeth Magilton: And I can name my concentration that way now of course they still need to be honest, accurate reflect that right, and you and your faculty supervisor and the registrar's office are going to look for that, but usually they still line up really well and we can think about that.
[00:12:55.830]Elsbeth Magilton: also keep in mind that whatever you title, this will go on the certificate that hangs on your wall, I have one back here that says cyber law on it.
[00:13:04.170]Elsbeth Magilton: Some days I look at it and think you know that's kind of a buzzword now now all the classes called Internet law so now my certificate dates me you never know, though right.
[00:13:12.180]Elsbeth Magilton: But think about what you want, on your certificate, because it is you know you're going to get that actual certificate and that's the official naming if anyone pulls your transcript, so it is something to take seriously and to consider from a lot of different perspectives.
[00:13:29.250]Elsbeth Magilton: Right so to kick off the process is to start without form, so you know I.
[00:13:35.130]Elsbeth Magilton: Post the individualized het web page, you can find it on the website, you can also just swing by the student affairs office and pick the form out from the document rack outside the office.
[00:13:45.450]Elsbeth Magilton: But I use that form as a worksheet to start drafting it out, and you can find our curriculum on the website, I put the link down there, but if you go to the space cyber telecom page, you can find us pretty easily on the website, by looking at the different program pages.
[00:14:00.810]Elsbeth Magilton: we've actually collected just our curriculum there now like I mentioned keep in mind, you can use classes outside of our curriculum to supplement right, so there might you know if you're doing.
[00:14:10.710]Elsbeth Magilton: Satellite business law is your concentration and that's your only concentration, you know you might want to add business associations, you might want to add corporate tax because those would make sense for satellite law right that that's a big part of what that industry does.
[00:14:25.080]Elsbeth Magilton: But, to start with our curriculum for kind of those really core subject matter classes, this is the list, where we've collected all the things that we kind of consider ours, and so you can start by looking through there and putting together.
[00:14:36.300]Elsbeth Magilton: You know your dream team lineup of how this is going to look I do want to advise that you can wait until 12 summer.
[00:14:44.610]Elsbeth Magilton: You know you don't you don't need to spend time doing this right now, when you could you know you're all packed to the brim schedule wise in terms of studying his first year law students.
[00:14:53.850]Elsbeth Magilton: This is not something that you need to stress out about right now, by any stretch of the imagination there's plenty of time will you're a tool to do this.
[00:15:01.800]Elsbeth Magilton: So the purpose of this session is to let you know what you're going to do when it's time to do it, but you don't necessarily need to start working on this immediately.
[00:15:09.750]Elsbeth Magilton: Your time is probably better spent focused on what's immediately in front of you in the classes, that you have going on.
[00:15:15.570]Elsbeth Magilton: A little bit of advice for the summer, when you do start looking at this, if you're one hour or if you were to Ellen are working on this.
[00:15:21.660]Elsbeth Magilton: is to be flexible, right in the end you're going to create this lineup that you really like and professors go on sabbatical or.
[00:15:29.970]Elsbeth Magilton: you decide, you really need to take this class or that one doesn't work in your schedule, because of xyz reason of other things you're working on your clerkship right.
[00:15:37.740]Elsbeth Magilton: So think through multiple options right if you can't get into that class what class, could you put in there, instead, that could still work towards this concentration, some of them are going to be non negotiable.
[00:15:46.890]Elsbeth Magilton: Usually, about half of them are negotiable hey we can think of other things to insert that'll work in your schedule.
[00:15:52.680]Elsbeth Magilton: And you can go through that with your advisor your faculty Member or you can always talk to me or Jill about you know how we can help think through and get creative when it comes to putting together your concentration.
[00:16:06.030]Elsbeth Magilton: So who should supervise sometimes it's really obvious, and you know exactly who it's going to be, you know you're focused entirely on national security law or cyber warfare, well, we all know, that's going to be jack beard.
[00:16:16.890]Elsbeth Magilton: But sometimes it's less obvious right sometimes you're like well if it's you know content moderation and data privacy, you know, should I call that tech governance and it should it be you know her wits is it link Bart.
[00:16:29.910]Elsbeth Magilton: feel free like I said a couple times to go to the faculty members they're not going to be offended if they're not the right person.
[00:16:35.820]Elsbeth Magilton: But you can also come to us and help we can help think through.
[00:16:39.990]Elsbeth Magilton: Who might be the best fit, there are also times, where I know if i've talked to a lot of students that one faculty Member.
[00:16:45.630]Elsbeth Magilton: You know, might have a huge list of people that they're working on right now between externship so or independent studies or concentrations.
[00:16:54.240]Elsbeth Magilton: So I might be able to say hey I think i'd actually go to so and so because they're a little bit less overloaded and you're going to get some more personalized attention, or just trying to even it out across our Program.
[00:17:05.640]Elsbeth Magilton: But always feel free to contact one of us don't let that stop you as you're working on your form.
[00:17:10.050]Elsbeth Magilton: So then, you get the form completed and signed it's a one page form the first part is really just rules and turn that in must be turned in before you start three.
[00:17:18.240]Elsbeth Magilton: And I encourage students to actually write on their calendars to check in with their faculty Member at the end.
[00:17:24.780]Elsbeth Magilton: of your first of your fall semester three out and again about three or four weeks before graduation, so that you stay on their radar right, so that they remember that they're working with you because he's concentrations you put them together.
[00:17:36.780]Elsbeth Magilton: And then it's sort of set it and forget it, so I don't mean it's not that they forget their it's not that you forget but it's a good thing to keep checked in with each other.
[00:17:44.820]Elsbeth Magilton: To make sure everything gets signed everything gets done that all those docs in our air in a row.
[00:17:49.440]Elsbeth Magilton: And if the professional approach is to make sure that you put that on your calendar because they're, the ones who are doing this.
[00:17:55.680]Elsbeth Magilton: To make sure that you can get that concentration so to check in with them and think through when you want to touch base in in what you need to touch base on.
[00:18:04.950]Elsbeth Magilton: Everything I would ask you to do is to let us know where, if you didn't come and talk to me about your concentration.
[00:18:11.250]Elsbeth Magilton: And you just went directly to the Faculty which is fantastic we and josh and still know we'd love to know so that we know that you're sort of one of ours, so to speak.
[00:18:20.580]Elsbeth Magilton: So, not only does that just mean that you know you're on our on our radar, but it also means that we add you to our spreadsheet of students that are in our Program.
[00:18:27.840]Elsbeth Magilton: So after you graduate you know you'll be on the standard law school alumni list, but then we also keep an alumni list of folks who concentrated in our subject area.
[00:18:36.030]Elsbeth Magilton: That gets our newsletter but, more importantly, it makes sure that you're added to our linkedin group, where I post jobs we post internships we.
[00:18:43.440]Elsbeth Magilton: Talk about positions and conferences in this area that makes sense for people to attend.
[00:18:48.900]Elsbeth Magilton: and help you kind of do some career development those first five to six years that are really critical after you graduate you're getting your experience.
[00:18:56.070]Elsbeth Magilton: Thinking about where you should be engaged in the industry and so making sure that that we include you in our Count of who's one of ours and is really helpful going forward.
[00:19:07.800]Elsbeth Magilton: And that is all I have from that PowerPoint presentation on.
[00:19:13.830]Elsbeth Magilton: Top concentrations, we are still recording I think i'm going to record questions, just in case if there's something big and glaring that I missed the people who are watching this later will want to know, but with that I will open it up to questions.
[00:19:28.800]Elsbeth Magilton: Yes, mckinley.
[00:19:30.450]McKinley Brock: High So when I was talking with the Faculty Member about adding the space cyber telecommunications concentration they kind of suggested, it would be better for me to file it this semester, which is my fall or spring to me and so i'm already in a lot of the credit.
[00:19:48.960]McKinley Brock: That will be counting towards it, but it's not filed will those still.
[00:19:52.290]McKinley Brock: Count or am I okay.
[00:19:53.880]Elsbeth Magilton: yep absolutely so you can backtrack you can backdate those credits so anything that you've taken at all we normally none of the first year classes generally ever go towards a concentration, those are kind of considered your first year curriculum right.
[00:20:06.780]Elsbeth Magilton: But after that anything that you take during law school can go towards your concentration, even if you file it after you've taken it.
[00:20:14.760]Elsbeth Magilton: And if you're a two all right now is a perfect time to be filing this form and writing it up.
[00:20:19.380]McKinley Brock: Okay perfect Thank you.
[00:20:27.870]Elsbeth Magilton: Alright, well, I am i'm always down here and i'm always available on email, so if folks have questions about the concentrations.
[00:20:36.360]Elsbeth Magilton: or anything else, I will go ahead and post this recording as well as that PowerPoint to anyone else in the in the club or.
[00:20:42.450]Elsbeth Magilton: around the building who missed this So if you have friends that mentioned it, you can tell them that they can come find it there here in probably a day or two once it gets rendered and all of that.
[00:20:51.150]Elsbeth Magilton: And let me know if you have any questions.
[00:20:54.240]Elsbeth Magilton: All right, Thank you everyone have a good day.

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