Exploring Factors Beyond Economic Investment that Influence Community Vitality - Thriving Children Conference 2021
Linda Reddish
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09/22/2021
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Wondering what factors beyond fiscal investment create communities were people want to live, work, and play? Join folks from the University of Nebraska Medical Center, University of Nebraska–Lincoln Native American Coalition, UNL College of Education and Human Sciences, and Nebraska Extension’s Latino Small Business Program who will share their experience and knowledge about how factors like culture, small businesses, mental health, and wellbeing influence community vitality. Then, connect with fellow attendees to discuss why communities are a complex network of people, partnerships, organizations, and relationships.
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Small Business are the Community
Trauma Informed Practices – A Cross-Sector Approach
Cultural Vitality is Community Vitality
Considering Mental Health through a Community Lens
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- [00:00:13.740]I am Sandra Barrera, Extension Educator
- [00:00:16.747]with Latino Small Business Program.
- [00:00:18.710]Small business are so important in rural communities.
- [00:00:23.530]They create jobs.
- [00:00:26.270]They pay taxes to the community.
- [00:00:30.030]Along with taxes, many also pay income tax.
- [00:00:32.850]So businesses like restaurants,
- [00:00:34.750]they pay sales tax and they pay occupation tax
- [00:00:37.850]in some areas.
- [00:00:39.290]So they support local economy.
- [00:00:43.210]They (small businesses) offer a lot of stuff to do in little towns,
- [00:00:49.700]things to eat, places to go to shopping,
- [00:00:52.297]things to do for entertainment.
- [00:00:54.490]And sometimes we have other small businesses that
- [00:00:57.439]offer services or are professionals such as CPAs, mental health,
- [00:01:02.780]psychologists, school coaches.
- [00:01:05.845]So they (small business) are so important,
- [00:01:08.080]they are part of the energy and the towns and,
- [00:01:11.740]and we absolutely need them in the community.
- [00:01:15.170]The point is, we have to create an ecosystem
- [00:01:18.280]in local communities, so the environment has to be friendly
- [00:01:22.720]for a business, and we need a community
- [00:01:25.540]in turn to support businesses.
- [00:01:27.710]My suggestion is if you want to support small businesses,
- [00:01:30.070]go buy $10,
- [00:01:31.887]$10 a week or month to buy from them
- [00:01:33.610]then you will have 100 people go to the businesses are going
- [00:01:36.530]to be a thousand, and this is a significant money to them
- [00:01:40.203]and they can still buy in within local communities.
- [00:01:44.150]And so it's the easy way is supporting in social media.
- [00:01:49.355]On their Facebook page share good comments, or on Google
- [00:01:52.773]like the page and promote what they have,
- [00:01:55.140]or what you buy with them.
- [00:01:56.100]You know, show to the community, why they (the small businesses) are here.
- [00:02:00.257]And what did you support them.
- [00:02:04.140]Showing pictures about what you bought in the stores.
- [00:02:09.130]And maybe as an ecosystem we can show support
- [00:02:13.141]through regulations
- [00:02:16.210]like easy processes how to open up a business,
- [00:02:20.550]maybe support them with information and resources
- [00:02:24.400]If we (a community) have Latino businesses or minorities,
- [00:02:27.800]we need information in bi-lingual languages,
- [00:02:30.998]in English and Spanish and,
- [00:02:34.157]be there and support them and be proud of what you
- [00:02:36.940]have in your town.
- [00:02:38.287]Our community has to be together.
- [00:02:40.480]And we had so many towns,
- [00:02:42.570]they are dying right now because their
- [00:02:46.280]businesses are closing right now
- [00:02:48.970]So they move into towns to big cities because their sales
- [00:02:53.480]are low.
- [00:02:54.650]So you have nothing go to, nothing to go buy, go shopping.
- [00:03:00.230]So you think about leaving too.
- [00:03:03.050]So it's economy for the town and it's a great need.
- [00:03:09.094]A need and support to the small businesses so in turn to make the town
- [00:03:13.990]friendly, welcoming, and economic,
- [00:03:20.247]and stable to be in that [business] space.
- [00:03:24.616]so that the town they can survive.
- [00:03:26.250]One thing everyone has to do is find a way
- [00:03:31.340]to try new forms of communication.
- [00:03:33.380]How are we going to communicate with Latinos?
- [00:03:35.460]How are we going to share this information
- [00:03:38.520]in different languages? Not only with Latinos.
- [00:03:39.690]You have people from Vietnam, people from Sudan and Somalia
- [00:03:41.920]I know it's not always easy and so many people,
- [00:03:45.920]so we need information and not have it.
- [00:03:47.820]For example, we have people from Guatemala who speak K'iche
- [00:03:50.860]so we need information in their language and we need to change.
- [00:03:52.900]So how are we going to do that? We have some information
- [00:03:55.590]that this is available for some people.
- [00:03:58.040]But we have to think a little bit more out of the box.
- [00:04:00.920]I say, how are we going to find a way to, to,
- [00:04:02.959]to share this information to them?
- [00:04:06.020]So we have to challenge how we channel information
- [00:04:09.570]in the right language.
- [00:04:11.350]I think to support the Latinos, we have to enjoy the,
- [00:04:18.030]diversity.
- [00:04:19.990]So we have different, you know,
- [00:04:22.160]let me share an example I have here in Grand Island.
- [00:04:24.390]We have people from Cuba.
- [00:04:25.780]So we have sandwiches from Cuba,
- [00:04:27.670]we have tacos from the Mexico,
- [00:04:29.060]we have pupusas from Salvador,
- [00:04:30.780]and now we have a restaurant from Venezuela.
- [00:04:34.460]They have arepas.
- [00:04:35.650]So I mention - arepas, you might ask what is that?
- [00:04:40.190]So as a community we have to promote what we have,
- [00:04:42.560]and the community has to be aware of what we have in the community
- [00:04:45.260]and if bilingual in the community to enjoy and have fun and be
- [00:04:51.000]proud of the diversity we have.
- [00:04:54.180]I think the regulations codes are so complicated.
- [00:04:59.390]It's a long process.
- [00:05:01.120]So difficult, communications between local entities
- [00:05:05.250]and entrepreneurs are difficult too.
- [00:05:07.780]Sometimes they will have to call for inspections and we spend
- [00:05:11.060]at least one week for someone to answer the phone or for us
- [00:05:14.100]to get an appointment.
- [00:05:15.220]I think that's in general, not only for Latinos,
- [00:05:17.440]but we (a community) has to offer services
- [00:05:22.379]in the same route to open a business.
- [00:05:26.320]Sometimes there is a lack locations, as well,
- [00:05:30.417]people they want to start a restaurant
- [00:05:32.510]and they need all the equipment.
- [00:05:34.958]They could find a locations, but maybe not the equipment
- [00:05:38.170]they don't have it.
- [00:05:39.300]Or it's too expensive to start a restaurant, or route
- [00:05:43.380]did you know, fund is around $20,000.
- [00:05:48.280]So sometimes to find the right locations is hard
- [00:05:52.500]there is a waiting list.
- [00:05:54.410]Our food trucks, they have to move a lot
- [00:05:56.160]because the police don't see and move the trucks.
- [00:05:59.680]They in one street, they had to move every two hours.
- [00:06:02.510]every one hour, can't stay
- [00:06:08.010]for a long time.
- [00:06:11.250]We need education took.
- [00:06:12.269]Talking about food safety it needs to be in Spanish to
- [00:06:16.320]undergo regulations before get any report for the food inspector
- [00:06:20.100]food inspector because we need to offer education about that.
- [00:06:24.240]Sometimes we don't follow rules.
- [00:06:25.580]It is not because it's intentional. We don't know.
- [00:06:27.700]It's because we're not aware of it.
- [00:06:29.120]So education for entrepreneurs is important and need education about
- [00:06:33.640]food safety, taxes, about employees, about marketing.
- [00:06:39.700]So, education is based to help entrepreneur to success.
- [00:06:44.200]Among the program that we have with Latinos (Latino Small Business Program)
- [00:06:47.190]we have, we create a mentoring match ones.
- [00:06:49.400]So right now we have been with,
- [00:06:51.790]six years working with the program and six years ago
- [00:06:56.130]we had food trucks and resources for food trucks and the
- [00:06:58.980]owners, When I, when they come here to our education, I say,
- [00:07:02.542]in the future, you're going to help me in the future with another one,
- [00:07:04.780]and then a new one.
- [00:07:05.613]So I'm going to need your decision or your commitment with me,
- [00:07:09.050]to mentor with [Nebraska] Extension, have with me old and new ones and,
- [00:07:12.130]and they are ready to do it.
- [00:07:13.210]So right now we have mentoring and mentor,
- [00:07:16.110]mentoring program and mentors that help new ones.
- [00:07:19.880]So we have people who know
- [00:07:23.250]what kind of programs do you use to receive debit cards and
- [00:07:26.990]credit cards in the machine? So what's the process?
- [00:07:29.600]What kind, how much did you pay?
- [00:07:31.580]How do we start, how do we create the menu?
- [00:07:33.660]So the mentors help a lot with that,
- [00:07:37.230]as well helping with tax, remarketing, maybe tips they have,
- [00:07:42.070]accordingly in Spanish
- [00:07:43.550]they've have been in five or six years.
- [00:07:45.652]And it's still important to them, to coach.
- [00:07:50.760]I mean, listen this person and their tips
- [00:07:53.740]that they have to new entrepreneurs.
- [00:08:03.670]Hi, I'm Holly Hatton-Bowers.
- [00:08:05.480]I'm an Assistant Professor in Child, Youth and Family Studies
- [00:08:08.430]and an Early Childhood Extension Specialist.
- [00:08:11.120]If we want to think about childhood trauma or traumatic
- [00:08:14.530]event, which could be stressful, it really is.
- [00:08:17.510]When something occurs, when a child experiences,
- [00:08:21.128]it can be an actual or a threatened negative event,
- [00:08:24.930]it can be a series of events or circumstances that really
- [00:08:28.980]cause emotional pain and can overwhelm the child's ability
- [00:08:33.030]to cope.
- [00:08:33.900]And so stress could be something that we might deal with
- [00:08:36.960]every day, but a trauma is something that's very negative.
- [00:08:40.810]It can be, you know, again, those events, the circumstances,
- [00:08:43.970]a series of events that causes a lot of emotional pain and
- [00:08:47.100]overwhelm.
- [00:08:48.180]And so with the trauma,
- [00:08:50.320]sometimes you may see children who have difficulties really
- [00:08:55.890]trusting their parents or close caregivers,
- [00:08:59.700]like a childcare provider, educator.
- [00:09:02.139]Sometimes there can be trouble eating and sleeping.
- [00:09:05.290]There can be excessive worry.
- [00:09:07.300]It's not uncommon for children zero to five to have some
- [00:09:10.410]difficulties with eating, or sometimes even a preschooler.
- [00:09:13.700]You know, our, or a kindergartner might say,
- [00:09:16.300]my tummy is hurting often, I'm having headaches.
- [00:09:18.366]And there also can be regression in some of our
- [00:09:21.210]developmental, you know, ability.
- [00:09:24.260]So someone who was sleeping through the night may not be
- [00:09:27.780]able to sleep through the night.
- [00:09:29.080]And maybe the talk be talking about having nightmares,
- [00:09:32.500]or even with young babies,
- [00:09:33.980]they'll just start having some more regressions with sleep
- [00:09:37.880]or even children who have learned to use the toilet might
- [00:09:41.590]start having some regressions and difficulties there.
- [00:09:44.950]And so the idea is that the response, their physio,
- [00:09:48.660]physiological body and their emotions are unable, or ill-equipped
- [00:09:53.830]ill-equipped, to deal with the significant stressors
- [00:09:56.450]or the trauma that they're experiencing.
- [00:09:58.977]And again, it's important to know that what traumatic event.
- [00:10:02.060]So if we want to think about the pandemic and COVID,
- [00:10:05.180]some people have experienced trauma from, you know,
- [00:10:08.890]living in a pandemic, and some other children maybe of the
- [00:10:13.510]same age have not experienced it as a traumatic event.
- [00:10:17.170]So I think we have to think about different events and how
- [00:10:19.970]the child is interpreting it as being threatening and
- [00:10:22.740]negative to be considered trauma.
- [00:10:25.010]And these principles of the trauma informed practice,
- [00:10:28.810]they have to be, you know, infused in policy as well.
- [00:10:33.330]And if we were able to do that, you know, with the,
- [00:10:36.235]the individual support, the individual family or families,
- [00:10:41.100]the parent primary caregiver,
- [00:10:43.220]we were able to support our schools and our culture,
- [00:10:46.520]you know, our, our health,
- [00:10:48.830]our health system with these trauma informed policies and
- [00:10:53.860]practices, and even having that increased awareness
- [00:10:56.250]and knowledge, then we're just better equipping our children
- [00:10:59.290]and our families with the skills
- [00:11:01.280]to really build that healing and recovery
- [00:11:04.280]that's still needed.
- [00:11:06.100]To have, to build trauma informed communities,
- [00:11:08.580]and in response to children's experiences of trauma,
- [00:11:11.001]we really all have to work together.
- [00:11:13.630]We have to create spaces where people have a voice where
- [00:11:18.030]they feel like they belong.
- [00:11:19.510]That they're part of the co-creation process of what quality
- [00:11:23.270]childcare looks like to support community vitality.
- [00:11:27.190]And that we all just need to show what it is that we can do
- [00:11:31.550]to care about the young children that are really a part of
- [00:11:35.750]all of our community.
- [00:11:44.620]Hello, my name is Ted Hibbeler.
- [00:11:46.588]I am from Maza Pon Kesh Ka Tiospaye
- [00:11:52.990]from the Rosebud Sioux Nation (Sicangu Lakota Oyate)
- [00:11:57.510]That is the Iron Shell family
- [00:12:02.438]in Rosebud, South Dakota.
- [00:12:04.920]I'm also the Tribal Extension Educator
- [00:12:08.157]for the University of Nebraska, [Nebraska Extension].
- [00:12:11.193]If we are talking about tribal communities, the,
- [00:12:19.350]the community support is ongoing.
- [00:12:23.640]It's interwoven into our daily lives.
- [00:12:28.820]Our, you know, the,
- [00:12:32.540]the term culture as we look at it is,
- [00:12:37.730]has to do with everything
- [00:12:42.890]regarding who we are as a people.
- [00:12:46.810]So if we're talking about our language,
- [00:12:50.230]if we're talking about our foods,
- [00:12:53.050]we're talking about our social dances, our ceremonies,
- [00:12:55.740]our songs, if we're talking about our traditional regalia,
- [00:13:04.840]all of those things are continuously done throughout the
- [00:13:11.352]year and preparation of certain events and ceremonies that
- [00:13:17.520]we hold each and every year.
- [00:13:20.877]It also is related to our relationship with the natural
- [00:13:25.440]world, with our relationship
- [00:13:27.220]Unci Maka, or Grandmother Earth
- [00:13:30.570]and all living things that live with us.
- [00:13:33.490]So it's a,
- [00:13:35.640]it is a all encompassing word that is sustained
- [00:13:45.640]throughout the entire year by our community members.
- [00:13:51.680]So we're, it's again, who we are and what we do.
- [00:13:58.569]You know, when we're talking about cultural vitality, our,
- [00:14:05.590]we have to look at history as well regarding I believe
- [00:14:11.470]communities of color and what, what was,
- [00:14:17.450]what did they have to, well,
- [00:14:20.283]what did they have to deal with
- [00:14:23.580]regarding just surviving in this country,
- [00:14:28.440]by the United States government.
- [00:14:30.800]And so, you know, it's,
- [00:14:32.830]it's not only tribal people or tribal communities,
- [00:14:35.880]but you're looking at African-American communities.
- [00:14:38.230]You're looking at Hispanic communities,
- [00:14:40.410]you're looking at Asian communities,
- [00:14:42.610]you're looking at all communities of color that have had to
- [00:14:45.640]survive through a lot of systemic racism,
- [00:14:50.391]in order just to be here, you know, just to be here.
- [00:14:54.995]You know, it's, it's,
- [00:14:57.650]it's almost a miracle that we're still here.
- [00:15:00.970]So I just wanted to kind of,
- [00:15:04.030]if we're looking at cultural vitality,
- [00:15:05.870]if we're being honest, we're bringing that truth forward.
- [00:15:10.210]You know, there's a reasons why our tribal communities
- [00:15:15.857]distrust outside intervention.
- [00:15:23.200]And so if we're,
- [00:15:25.600]if you're looking at working with tribal communities then
- [00:15:28.220]you need to understand that history and that, that
- [00:15:32.330]relationship that we had with the United States government
- [00:15:35.987]and, and what was done to us.
- [00:15:41.600]If you, if you want to have a relationship with us then,
- [00:15:45.897]then understand what we had to go through first and foremost,
- [00:15:51.750]and then, you know what we're doing to correct that
- [00:15:55.610]and to become healthy again, because we are,
- [00:15:58.400]we are becoming healthy again,
- [00:15:59.960]it's this next generation that we hope or have made it,
- [00:16:04.610]you know, but my generation, you know,
- [00:16:06.760]we experienced the boarding school experience.
- [00:16:10.047]I was sent to an all boys school when I was younger.
- [00:16:15.540]So we've had to overcome a lot of,
- [00:16:20.954]a lot of historic trauma to get where we are now.
- [00:16:27.390]And so, you know,
- [00:16:30.110]I know that a lot of non-tribal people are non-natives they
- [00:16:36.577]ask about, well, why is this happening?
- [00:16:40.036]Well, you know,
- [00:16:42.917]you have a couple of hours so that I can sit down and talk
- [00:16:45.894]to you about what went on between our people and the
- [00:16:50.798]United States government, and, um it's still going on.
- [00:16:56.624]So, you know, there's a, there's,
- [00:16:59.152]there's a lot when I'm talking about creating
- [00:17:03.980]relationships with us.
- [00:17:05.980]There's a lot that has to be done and it takes time and it
- [00:17:09.462]can't be completed with a three-year grant or funding from
- [00:17:16.225]outside agencies.
- [00:17:18.670]I know that they mean well, but first and foremost,
- [00:17:22.440]is that understanding of any relationship that you have with
- [00:17:28.030]anyone of what,
- [00:17:29.881]what they had to go through in order to be who they are
- [00:17:34.680]today.
- [00:17:35.957]And I think that's something that's missing with a lot of
- [00:17:39.490]non-native funding agencies. They just want to come in and,
- [00:17:43.081]you know, and create programs and funding
- [00:17:49.460]without understanding why we are in the situation
- [00:17:54.490]that we're in.
- [00:17:56.270]It wasn't because of our choosing,
- [00:17:57.440]we were very healthy communities before colonization hit 500
- [00:18:03.320]years ago,
- [00:18:04.850]we were here for thousands and thousands of years living in
- [00:18:08.100]a very balanced and healthy lifestyle.
- [00:18:11.280]And then the Great Interruption started.
- [00:18:13.240]And then we had 500 years of that.
- [00:18:16.190]And so now we're just starting to get back to who we are,
- [00:18:20.450]and that's what those elders always say to us.
- [00:18:23.200]You know, we are our own medicine,
- [00:18:24.830]let's get back to who we are as Sicangu Lakota, HoChunk and Umonhon
- [00:18:28.930]UMÓⁿHOⁿ, as Isanti people, as nations.
- [00:18:35.260]And so we're, we're getting there,
- [00:18:36.990]but we're not quite there yet.
- [00:18:46.060]I really appreciate the opportunity to talk to this
- [00:18:48.080]outstanding group.
- [00:18:49.860]I know that each of you works in different areas related to
- [00:18:52.910]our community and wellbeing.
- [00:18:54.930]And I would say that mental health,
- [00:18:56.620]is it just an area that's fundamental?
- [00:18:59.220]My name is Dr. Howard Liu,
- [00:19:01.220]and I'm a child psychiatrist chair of psychiatry at
- [00:19:04.360]University of Nebraska Medical Center.
- [00:19:06.660]And I'm also a father of four.
- [00:19:08.276]And, you know,
- [00:19:09.980]it's really just critical that we consider mental health.
- [00:19:12.580]And we look at community wellbeing.
- [00:19:14.550]The last two years really have been devastating for our
- [00:19:17.960]communities with pandemic.
- [00:19:19.670]And we know that for the first time mental health has taken
- [00:19:22.950]center stage. As many of us have been isolated,
- [00:19:25.424]there's been a lot of grief. Loss of loved ones.
- [00:19:28.592]Schools have become disrupted.
- [00:19:30.863]Healthcare workers have become burnt out and all those
- [00:19:34.630]things used to be swept under the rug.
- [00:19:36.700]And we were just trying to tough it out.
- [00:19:39.060]But nowadays we realize that if we are going to have a
- [00:19:41.500]resilient community, we have to talk about building
- [00:19:44.050]in the structures to support people.
- [00:19:46.174]And that could be anything from making sure that at houses
- [00:19:50.560]of worship and at schools,
- [00:19:52.700]we talk about wellbeing to having access to critical care
- [00:19:57.540]services like a psychiatric emergency in the community.
- [00:20:00.466]When you have someone that really is struggling with a
- [00:20:03.400]mental health crisis.
- [00:20:04.620]Well I can tell you as a Chinese American myself,
- [00:20:07.470]that I grew up in a three-generation home.
- [00:20:09.879]So my grandparents live with us and then my parents and then
- [00:20:14.250]us kids were there as well.
- [00:20:16.240]And that connected me to some aspects of culture that
- [00:20:19.029]weren't available in school and a healthy community,
- [00:20:23.150]I think really has access to the stories to a deeper
- [00:20:26.710]understanding of how we're connected to each other.
- [00:20:30.310]I think that is definitely possible in this day and age,
- [00:20:33.160]but it requires a lot of effort because of the,
- [00:20:35.160]some of the restrictions for COVID.
- [00:20:37.200]And just because of some of the tensions that have arisen in
- [00:20:39.490]the society sometimes splitting us apart where I see some
- [00:20:43.700]real signs of hope are when I see the working groups around
- [00:20:46.695]making schools a healthier place.
- [00:20:50.530]When I see a lot of effort across different non-profits
- [00:20:53.480]healthcare organizations,
- [00:20:54.657]people in the community or houses of worship,
- [00:20:57.321]looking at at-risk kids.
- [00:20:59.990]And also really just thinking about, you know,
- [00:21:01.760]what do we want to promise ourselves in terms of safety
- [00:21:05.340]in the community?
- [00:21:06.173]I see a lot of great work in that area,
- [00:21:09.190]looking at addressing and reducing violence and really by
- [00:21:13.580]increasing opportunities in the community.
- [00:21:15.940]So I think there's a lot of different ways that we can have
- [00:21:18.950]a truly connected sense of community wellbeing
- [00:21:22.290]or communities that really is a, a house
- [00:21:25.170]and have nots many a time, you know,
- [00:21:26.800]as I'm working as a child psychiatrist now.
- [00:21:29.374]I also spent several years as Nebraska state workforce
- [00:21:33.570]director for mental health communities,
- [00:21:35.790]really trying to grow the workforce and underserved areas
- [00:21:39.240]what's clear to me is that there's really starting
- [00:21:43.770]from a maternal health,
- [00:21:45.210]right to health care of our pregnant moms and you know,
- [00:21:48.540]what access they have to resources that there's disparity
- [00:21:52.730]starting from the very beginning.
- [00:21:54.290]And then you see it in early childhood.
- [00:21:56.560]You see it in preschool and then so on
- [00:21:59.600]into elementary, and K-12.
- [00:22:01.690]So really focusing on early childhood is one area
- [00:22:05.540]that I would love to see us put some resources in.
- [00:22:08.284]I think part of that really comes to those families that are
- [00:22:11.830]the most disrupted that are most at risk.
- [00:22:14.550]I remember reading a recent statistic that, you know,
- [00:22:16.943]if you are one of the kids expelled from preschool,
- [00:22:20.053]it really is predictive of you eventually getting involved
- [00:22:23.330]in juvenile justice system.
- [00:22:24.893]And you can understand why, because, you know,
- [00:22:27.660]sometimes we have families who have the least resources who
- [00:22:31.680]need the most help, and they really don't have access
- [00:22:34.330]to reliable transportation.
- [00:22:36.330]They don't often have access to safety in terms of their
- [00:22:40.520]kids, safe places to play and do athletic activities.
- [00:22:44.870]And so on sometimes even access to a pediatrician
- [00:22:48.470]and primary care provider is lacking.
- [00:22:51.550]One thing I think we can do is invest
- [00:22:53.630]in some of the school pieces.
- [00:22:55.070]So I love seeing programs that address childhood hunger and,
- [00:23:00.401]and look at feeding the whole family and some of those
- [00:23:02.956]areas, which are critical right now in the pandemic.
- [00:23:06.680]Something that's less talked about in mental health access
- [00:23:09.810]these days is just the need for broadband access in
- [00:23:13.900]underserved communities as well.
- [00:23:15.310]These are both rural and urban,
- [00:23:17.360]which often have less access to high-speed internet.
- [00:23:20.330]And, you know, I would say that the great majority
- [00:23:23.630]of the mental health providers I know these days
- [00:23:26.020]are providing most of their services
- [00:23:28.600]online on zoom calls and other conference technology.
- [00:23:33.393]So I think when you do not have that access, it's,
- [00:23:37.029]it leaves you in a healthcare desert and that really is not
- [00:23:40.630]safe for anybody.
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