Webinar: Managing Behavioral Health: A Key to Farming and Ranching in the Era of COVID (May 21, 2020)
Dr. Michael Rosmann, Ag Behavioral Health; Dr. Christine Chasek, University of Nebraska at Kearney.
COVID adds new uncertainties to farming and ranching on top of a five-year economic recession in agriculture. Like the bomb cyclone and flooding that impacted Nebraska last year and into 2020, COVID is largely beyond the control of agricultural producers. Importantly, however, we can control how we behave. Farm and ranch families can develop behavior plans that include: signs of physical and emotional distress, daily behavior practices that nurture one another, looking out for neighbors and loved ones while maintaining physical distance, building a support team that can be contacted when needed, and resources that are available free to Nebraskans
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[00:01:03.600]Glennis McClure: Okay. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Linda Smith floor and extension educator and farm and ranch management analyst and the Department of Cultural economics at the University of Nebraska, Lincoln.
[00:01:16.110]Glennis McClure: On behalf of the Department, I welcome you to our webinar today.
[00:01:20.550]Glennis McClure: This is part of a series of webinars produced by our farm and ranch management team that focuses on issues related to commit 19th impact on Nebraska agriculture, you can find reporting to be sessions a schedule of upcoming webinars and other resources at farm that you AMP l.edu
[00:01:41.340]Glennis McClure: One resource that we'd like to quickly highlight is the Nebraska rural response hotline in times of stress, knowing when to reach out is essential.
[00:01:51.090]Glennis McClure: To Nebraska real response hotline can provide mental health counseling information regarding legal assistance financial clinics mediation and more
[00:02:02.040]Glennis McClure: The hotlines toll free number is 1-800-464-0258 I'll show a slide here in a moment, said shows that number again. In addition, a wealth of resources related to stress and wellness can be found at World wellness that you and l.edu
[00:02:21.840]Glennis McClure: Well, today's format doesn't allow you to speak or interact directly with our speak with Dr. As men will welcome questions to be submitted in the chat box located at the bottom of your screen.
[00:02:35.370]Glennis McClure: Will ask Dr. roseman if primarily our question Q AMP. A will be towards the end of the session but Dr Grossman has indicated that at any time if I want to
[00:02:47.370]Glennis McClure: Let him know about a question I will do so. So, just feel free to add questions as you think of those in the chat box with Fox, we'd really appreciate it.
[00:02:55.620]Glennis McClure: Today we are joined by Dr. Michael roseman we were planning to have Dr. Christine Tina chapstick on the due to some health issues today she wasn't able to join us.
[00:03:08.520]Glennis McClure: So I'll introduce Dr Roslyn, Dr. Michael roseman is a psychologist and fourth generation farmer who were whose work involves improving the behavioral health care of the agricultural industry.
[00:03:22.800]Glennis McClure: He's based in Iowa and he operates egg behavioral health online at AG behavioral health com where he works to further the understanding of the cultures of farmers and ranchers and the unique behavioral health issues of those working in agriculture.
[00:03:41.670]Glennis McClure: Welcome Dr roseman we'll go ahead and I've got a few comments on me with the initial slides.
[00:03:55.260]Glennis McClure: All right, so we're going to start off with a slide that we put together and in Nebraska extension.
[00:04:01.620]Glennis McClure: That it's important to learn to manage our stress levels indirect today's high stress. Stress levels and others.
[00:04:08.970]Glennis McClure: You've heard the reaching out as a breath is strong. And that's what we've been working with in this last year to with the whole stress.
[00:04:16.980]Glennis McClure: Curriculum and information that we provide the world wellness.ed W and l.edu I mentioned a little bit ago as a website.
[00:04:25.440]Glennis McClure: That our team has put together with wealth of information in there that you can you can take a look at. And there, again, there's the Nebraska rural response hotline number and also the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline number
[00:04:44.190]Glennis McClure: Dr. Jessica put together a couple of slides and she started off with this one, and this some, you know, information, Nebraska, strong floods and and now kovats how
[00:04:59.310]Glennis McClure: You know how things can change from one year to the next, we can have a perfectly normal year we've got the floods the blizzards and things that hit us last year and agriculture and now we've got coated
[00:05:10.410]Glennis McClure: So we've seen our share of challenges the last few years, the bomb cycle. The blizzards, the flooding egg prices.
[00:05:18.690]Glennis McClure: Even for the last four or five years. We haven't been very strong with our egg prices and the last few years with treaty issues and some of those things really haven't helped
[00:05:28.110]Glennis McClure: Of course, you know, whether that's been huge. And even some parts of the state right now. I just was on a call today with some livestock for
[00:05:36.990]Glennis McClure: Educators and there's parts of the states that are really wet but I'm sitting in southeast, Nebraska, where right now, we're really dry so really helpful for a good rain this weekend.
[00:05:47.850]Glennis McClure: So, um, anyway. So where are we now, and how do we manage so we're really very thankful that we have Dr Grossman here to help us with that. So I'll go ahead and turn it over to Dr Grossman, to provide his comments.
[00:06:00.870]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Well, thank you, glass and Thanks Ryan and Glenys for doing the
[00:06:09.450]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Electronic troubleshooting because I'd have been pretty hopeless and they helped me walk through this this morning. So I appreciate their assistance.
[00:06:19.560]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: I do live in Harlan Iowa in the western part of the state. And we often get to Nebraska for good fishing and hunting and have many, many friends. I need to say that I have
[00:06:38.490]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: heard from many farmers and ranchers in Nebraska because of the issues that are exhibited on this slide, I
[00:06:48.780]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: typically receive emails and phone calls anywhere from three to a dozen per week. Lately it's been five or six per week it's slowed down a little bit during planting and and calving and lambing season, but
[00:07:05.190]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Certainly, I am have many friends and appreciate the people of Nebraska so much. Next slide.
[00:07:15.090]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Christine has done a good job of putting together a couple of slides in her absence. This one illustrates typical responses to disasters and recovery.
[00:07:32.760]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: And as Glenys was saying, you know, you've been through the unpredictable blizzards and flooding. Oh my. That flooding was something in effect that Iowa as well. So we know directly
[00:07:49.410]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: How the flooding has disrupted the entire farming arena along the Missouri River.
[00:07:58.890]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: This particular slide tells us that
[00:08:03.600]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: When it first occurs when the disaster first arises, we put a great deal of effort into trying to overcome the threat we may undertake sandbagging
[00:08:16.950]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Or if we were calving when the flooding hit last March, we went out and tried to move the cows cows and calves out of the
[00:08:27.240]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: timbers next to the streams were weren't always successful because the streams rose so fast that a number of calves were drowned. And they were just little babies and couldn't get around very well in the water and didn't know better, and the poor cows.
[00:08:43.410]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Were just left without having their calves. In some cases the does faster gearing up
[00:08:52.620]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: goes on for typically about two to three weeks, but we were out. And when we were out we become disillusioned we become depressed and it takes a long time to work through to recovery.
[00:09:08.760]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We're certainly going to see a long prolonged
[00:09:13.470]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Recovery from the coven disaster. It is something we have not experienced before. And it's a great learning experience for all of us, but eventually
[00:09:24.600]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: As you can see we reach a point of post recovery, we're never the same. We won't be the same. After coven this year and maybe going into future years. But we will
[00:09:38.820]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Adapt will have new knowledge will have a different skills and procedures for dealing with Govan and that's basically what this
[00:09:49.800]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Webinar is about today. Let's
[00:09:53.400]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Go to the next.
[00:09:56.550]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: I'd like to talk about behavioral well being and contributors to stress the most important stressors are those that we can't control like coven
[00:10:10.470]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: But also before that and still now farm prices. They're dreadful corn and soybeans dreadful for cow calf producers, at the moment, and for cattle feed lot operators, it's worrying. A really most difficult era. I know now of people who have euthanized. They're
[00:10:36.360]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Taking that they're ready for market because they're advancing the on market. Wait.
[00:10:42.270]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: And it is terribly sad. I've had people call me crying on the phone because they had to undertake something that they
[00:10:51.720]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: weren't ready for and did not want to undertake farmers, ranchers. We all want to produce food and we want to do it right.
[00:11:02.310]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We're not getting sufficient responses at the federal level from disaster relief measures. So we're left in many ways with unpredictable circumstances.
[00:11:16.890]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Most of us can handle two stressors at once. For example, we might be able to manage a disease outbreak in our swine herd along with perhaps an illness to, let's say, a coven
[00:11:33.660]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Outbreak with an employee who works on the farm or ranch.
[00:11:39.960]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: But then, if somebody who is closed clothes and loved passes away. Now we have three major stressors and it usually pushes us beyond the breaking point. So, most of us kind of take stock of how many stressors. You are undergoing. Next slide.
[00:12:10.860]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: To stressors that wants but not more. Now I want to talk about behavioral health rather than mental health. I use that term behavioral health on purpose.
[00:12:22.560]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: You who are producing livestock. You know how animals behave. You know how a cow that sin heat
[00:12:31.560]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Demonstrates that she is ready to be bred and you can pull her out and bring her into the shoot for a dying or you may keep an eye on her to see if the ball does his job. The point is you're skilled observers of behavior.
[00:12:50.250]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: But most of us who live on farms and ranches are not necessarily tuned in. Well, to mental health.
[00:12:58.830]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We look at mental health, sometimes as something that's beyond our control when in fact it is, to a great extent, under our control. And that's the good news about this webinar. We
[00:13:15.600]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Are for the most part in charge of how we manage our behaviors, why I don't use the word mental well you can probably understand that from this little illustration
[00:13:29.190]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: You've heard teens even younger are middle aged person sometimes say, oh,
[00:13:37.830]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: He's mental don't bother you can't use that derogatory term when someone when you use the term behavioral. It just doesn't work. Plus, you understand behaviors and you're not scared of them.
[00:13:53.580]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: It is something that you understand. So I will use this term behavioral health because it's less stigmatizing and is more acceptable to us. Now, what kind of stresses. Do we expect from the coven era on top of the poor farm prices well
[00:14:17.520]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: I have to describe to
[00:14:24.150]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Long terms was undertaken in night in 1984 through 1987 we examined 122 farm families in southwest, Iowa.
[00:14:39.960]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: who sought counseling to deal with the farm crisis of the 1980s. Those of you who remember that time and those who may be didn't
[00:14:51.270]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Don't remember it, but you certainly heard about it you know that it was the most serious distressing event that we had since the 1930s. Great Depression. Now we're looking at an era when
[00:15:09.450]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We're possibly comparing it to the Great Depression of the 1930s. The point of this is, though, that in the
[00:15:19.080]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We began to try to figure out how can we help people who are severely distressed on the farm and ranch.
[00:15:30.480]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: The second main study was a 15 year large longitudinal study of seven states in the upper Midwest, it began around the year 1999 and continued until 2014 the seven states were Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas and Iowa.
[00:16:00.510]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Funds were awarded to Wisconsin.
[00:16:04.800]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Office of Rural Health
[00:16:07.950]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Funds were given out because we had a mini FARM CRISIS that began in 1998 there was one day when pork prices dropped to eight cents a pound for an alive way to animal ready for market.
[00:16:23.550]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Wow, that is so low that you wonder why should we even sell books. We're at that point now where we have already seen the youth and ization of approximately 7 million
[00:16:37.710]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Swine in our country. It's even worse now than it was in 98 but the funds were put into the federal office of rural health policy.
[00:16:50.670]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: for distribution to Wisconsin when Wisconsin office of rural health determine that they could not manage the program beyond its inception year
[00:17:02.760]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Because the Wisconsin office was funded by the state of Wisconsin. And it was not allowed to undertake management of funds for other states. So, the leaders in the seven states, including Nebraska and Iowa met a couple of times to figure out how can we continue this
[00:17:26.580]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We formed a nonprofit organization called Agra wellness and they selected me as their the director of the project over the next 15 years we began to
[00:17:41.010]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: ferret out what well I
[00:17:47.040]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: had worked and there after beginning in 1999 what we found is that telephone hotlines and help LINES HELP.
[00:17:59.040]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: They help because they are when they are staffed by people who understand the stresses and problems of agriculture.
[00:18:09.540]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: So the Nebraska response hotline has telephone responders who are familiar with agriculture, so it is the Iowa concern hotline and other hotlines in the seven states, not all of them have a hotline anymore.
[00:18:25.950]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We also found during these two long, long term longitudinal studies that counseling helped people. Yes, it helped them to deal with the emotional strains
[00:18:40.530]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Especially when the counseling was free. We wanted it to be free, because we did not want to add to the economic burden of families in economic turmoil.
[00:18:55.740]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: So,
[00:18:57.390]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We obtained funds that were made available to people who contacted the hotlines and help lines.
[00:19:06.060]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: And determined during their discussions on the hotline or by email that they would benefit from follow up counseling with a professional who was licensed and who understood both agriculture and behavioral health treatment. So these persons who contacted the hotlines
[00:19:31.980]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Indicated their main worries and the reason why they contacted the hotline or helpline.
[00:19:41.580]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: 40% of the time it was because of relationship breakdowns that were occurring in the home. Sometimes people were just blaming one another. Oh, if you wouldn't spend so much money every time you go to town. We wouldn't be in the shape
[00:19:59.010]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Or no, you can't.
[00:20:02.610]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Well for football this fall because we can't afford a hired hand and we need you to help all the grain or other kinds of issues that
[00:20:13.620]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Resulted in outward blaming fighting even spouse abuse sometimes child abuse and these relationship problems occur because we are close to our families and they are the persons who are most familiar with us and are most near us and become the objects of our anger and blame.
[00:20:41.940]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: The second most common issue our anxiety problems. Now if you remember back to that slide that showed what happens when some type of threat occurs, like a flood we gear up as I said anxiety disorders occur when we try very hard to
[00:21:07.860]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Overcome the threat we try to overcome it by moving our grain or maybe moving livestock whatever we can do, but we were out after two to three weeks.
[00:21:22.710]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: And as we were out our production of beneficial body hormones like serotonin, norepinephrine cortisone or cortisol oxytocin not cortisol. So serotonin, norepinephrine and oxytocin. Oxytocin is what causes secrete when they let their meltdown. So
[00:21:46.230]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: If people are distressed. We don't produce those chemicals in sufficient amounts
[00:21:56.190]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Eventually we become so fatigued, that our body takes over and secretes cortisol. Cortisol necessarily makes us feel sleepy low GI it allows us to restore ourselves a bit. It allows our hearts to slow down.
[00:22:18.960]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: And our for our digestion, to really resumed normal. So we don't have stomach issues, but it also leads to depression.
[00:22:31.260]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: So anxiety disorders typically preceded depression.
[00:22:35.850]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: And you may be thinking, Now, what do I have, what am I struggling with. Yeah, you might be struggling with PTSD or post traumatic stress disorder because it reminds you of the flood of last year, or other times when you have been severely distressed.
[00:22:59.280]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Next slide place.
[00:23:04.710]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Depression.
[00:23:09.750]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: See, I don't see the next slide. Yeah.
[00:23:13.530]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Wow glasses moving that let me talk about what are the kinds of stresses. Thank you, like canes.
[00:23:25.980]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Grasses react to most strongly as farmers and ranchers. We are tied to the land to the water to the assets needed to operate our businesses adequately and profitably.
[00:23:44.640]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: The assets that we need our good equipment facilities and buildings to house livestock. Maybe it's a workforce, maybe it is adequate financing so that we can obtain funds for our crop inputs this year.
[00:24:04.170]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: The assets may include who all is involved in the operation that is employees or family members, such as a father or the children or the wives.
[00:24:20.280]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Or in some cases when the wife is the operator, the husband's so any threat to the economic stability of the farmer ranch.
[00:24:34.470]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Is most important it is equal only by the threat or the loss of a child in a farming event by such things as suffocation in a grain ban or getting caught up in an auger that takes the child's life.
[00:24:53.610]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: So that is means that economic threats are terribly important for us and demoralizing
[00:25:03.870]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: The third most common
[00:25:08.520]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Distress is the loss of an important person to the farm operation. It might be a father who passes away of some kind of health issue, it might be a long term valued employee who could no longer hold down the position.
[00:25:26.730]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: But you can see that it is the loss of someone who is key to the operation.
[00:25:34.440]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: So these events that threaten us are those that
[00:25:43.740]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Perhaps call into question our own livelihoods and our way of life.
[00:25:51.090]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: As doubt, just to summarize, remember first that relationship issues, develop, followed by anxiety. But when we have depleted our bodies of serotonin, norepinephrine and cortisone we begin to feel depressed in both of our studies, we found that depression occurred from 18 to 33% of the time.
[00:26:17.700]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We looked at diagnoses that were made by the professional caregivers in 7200 and some sessions over 7200 so we have the data that comes from the reasons why callers contact hotlines and outlines and we have the data.
[00:26:41.670]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Of
[00:26:43.350]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: providers that have made official diagnoses and they reported them without any identifying information.
[00:26:54.750]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: So we know that depression is something to which farmers are especially vulnerable.
[00:27:04.620]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Substance abuse surprisingly occurred only five to 7% of the time as the main diagnosis, but it was a poet co occurring problem in about 40% of cases.
[00:27:18.690]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: What we don't see in the farm and ranch population are serious personality disorders or serious psychotic disorders such as schizophrenia, where we have hallucinations and delusions.
[00:27:33.090]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: These people with chronic personality disturbances and psychosis have been sorted out through multiple generations of survival of the fittest. So the farmers and ranchers who are left are very bright capable and adaptable people. Next slide.
[00:27:54.840]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We need to keep in mind that when we are depressed and facing the threat of the loss of our operation that
[00:28:05.910]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We may even consider taking our own lives.
[00:28:12.510]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We now know that suicide by the agricultural population is higher than any other occupational group.
[00:28:21.000]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: The next closest occupation.
[00:28:25.290]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Is that have minors and other people engaged in extractive mineral harvest like oil.
[00:28:37.320]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: And
[00:28:39.240]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: People involved in heavy construction, the emotional a way in which we handle stress is a little similar we tried to be macho if we're
[00:28:52.320]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Minors or if we're involved in high rise construction or if we're involved in agriculture, we try very hard to
[00:29:03.900]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Overcome the threats. So when we're not successful in overcoming them. We feel like we're failures, we are letting down the efforts of our ancestors who work so hard to acquire the land if we have to leave it.
[00:29:21.870]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We feel like we have eliminated the opportunity for our children to maintain the family operation. So we're caught in the middle.
[00:29:35.460]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: And we're seeing a high suicide rate accompany the increase in foreclosures.
[00:29:43.500]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Among farm loans primarily long term loans for equipment land and facilities. The top state in terms of the number of foreclosures last year was Wisconsin, followed by Nebraska.
[00:30:05.400]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: It is surprising that the suicide rate of farmers is even higher than the rate of suicide among military veterans and it is worsening currently during this era of coven. Next slide.
[00:30:24.600]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: What do we pay attention to.
[00:30:28.920]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: As signs of distress and even suicide. Some of them are fairly obvious when somebody makes a dramatic statement like I'm going to shoot on my couch. Before I take him to the sale barn where I'm going to get that jerk that who wouldn't loan me money. If that's the last thing I do.
[00:30:53.490]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Other statements that aren't as obvious are globalization's about hopelessness at the top of that slide. It's no use. Nothing I do works anymore. What's the use of trying
[00:31:09.000]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Another type of virtualization to pay attention to in ourselves and in others involved in farming and ranching are the loss of interest or pleasure in anything.
[00:31:22.890]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: If they haven't had a deep belly laugh in more than three weeks. The we need to be a little concerned.
[00:31:31.170]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: So if you ask somebody, and how are you feeling and said, I haven't laughed in a long time. There's nothing that is fun anymore.
[00:31:39.840]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Also look for what we call flapped aspect that is inability to take pleasure in anything but focused only on themselves and the threat that is overwhelming them.
[00:31:59.430]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: I want to talk just a bit about the lump in the throat phenomenon to
[00:32:04.680]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Sometimes farmers and ranchers will say, I just wish I could cry.
[00:32:11.340]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: But I can't. I've got a lump in my throat. You can ask them if you ever felt like crying. And if they say, Yeah, but I can't.
[00:32:20.040]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: That is the lump in the throat phenomenon. And it's a pretty good clue that there is building tension and depression within the person who says that. Next slide.
[00:32:34.020]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: There are a few other things that you also want to pay attention to in yourselves and your neighbors and people around you when we begin to withdraw from social events like going to church with that we usually attend or not going to the kids sporting events or school events.
[00:32:53.460]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Anytime.
[00:32:55.260]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Time that we become socially reclusive even staying in the bedroom with the blinds or the curtains bold. Those are pretty good sign that a person is getting pretty morbid getting pretty upset and depressed and feeling overwhelmed.
[00:33:14.490]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Look also for the deterioration in appearance of the person. Are they shaven or not or their clothes unkempt maybe dirty. What about the appearance of the animals.
[00:33:30.870]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: In the operation. Are they too thin eyes, their body condition score getting down there in two, three or even worse, one
[00:33:40.740]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We can look also at how well the equipment has been maintained our fences in good shape.
[00:33:49.320]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Are the tractors Captain side.
[00:33:56.070]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: One last thing that we probably should be following is the exposure to farm chemicals during planting and harvest. If we apply insecticides in the organophosphates family.
[00:34:12.420]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Or the Neil nicotine annoyed family. These seed treatments kill insects by speeding up the transmission of a nervous signal in the
[00:34:26.280]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Nervous system of the insect the insect when exposed to these chemicals becomes confused the honeybee that may have landed on a
[00:34:38.010]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Flower that's been treated with one of these chemicals goes back to the hive, but can't tell it's other honey bees, where the honey came from instead of walks around
[00:34:53.310]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: disoriented.
[00:34:56.130]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: The same thing happens to humans, when we are exposed to organophosphates which are commonly used in farming and ranching and also for treating parasites in livestock.
[00:35:11.010]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: If we have absorbed these chemicals into our through our skin or breathe them in
[00:35:17.670]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Or perhaps ingested them because we've touched the planter boxes to make sure the chemical is there and didn't use gloves to stir the seed and level it out in the planter boxes.
[00:35:32.760]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: When that happens, we get exposed to these toxic substances we become hyperactive. We can't rest. We can't stop thinking
[00:35:43.890]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We don't sleep sometimes for three nights in a row. And when that occurs. We're at high risk for self harm because our thinking has become negative and unproductive.
[00:35:58.650]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Almost always, we see that the loss of sleep of three nights or more causes us to be somewhat similar to having a consume too much alcohol. We can't think clearly, we become desperate. We sometimes lose control of our feelings. Next slide.
[00:36:29.310]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: What can we do as farmers and ranchers and families.
[00:36:35.130]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: You can, and maybe should construct a coven plan for your family and your business entity.
[00:36:45.510]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: That plan should specify such things as, how will we respond if a family member or employee becomes positive with coven. What will we do
[00:37:00.930]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: How will we carry on the business if we don't have
[00:37:07.680]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: One or two employees. What will we do well there are options such as farm rescue operated or comes out of North Dakota. It helps people who have become overwhelmed with distress or the loss of a family member key to the operation. They may help plant and harvest
[00:37:34.170]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: contacting people outside of our own operation becomes important in our plan for dealing with coven
[00:37:44.940]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We can talk with neighbors. If something happens, I want you to look out for me and I'll look out for you. We can do that by checking in by telephone or just calling calling each other now and then, or maybe driving and talking with six feet of space in between us.
[00:38:04.830]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Looking out for the welfare of others also is beneficial because it makes us feel useful. It affirms our self worth. It makes us understand that others have it like we do, and it reduces our self absorption to be caring and keeping an eye on our neighbors at this time.
[00:38:29.910]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: I have a question.
[00:38:33.210]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Oh that's from Ryan. He's asking if you have questions, yes please type them.
[00:38:38.850]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Remember how we need to sleep. Well, to do that, turn off the lights eliminate sound sleep in a cool place it's normal to awakened three or more times per night sometimes to use the bathroom.
[00:38:56.460]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: But because we shift positions. People who undertake calving and check the cows at night, usually wake up after their first period of deep sleep, I would hop on the four wheel drive.
[00:39:13.290]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Around the pasture to see if any animal is having difficulty Kevin and I go back. Keep my clothes on, but take the outer coveralls off lay down and sleep for another episode of deep sleep, get up again and hop on the four wheeler and go out and check
[00:39:33.510]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: I didn't mind that I like my cattle so much that it was fun to do this and was fun to see the Cavs that were coming. We raised purebred seven tall and sold vegetables and heifers was great enjoyment my cows trusted me and I trusted them.
[00:39:54.150]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: They'll have a support team of trusted persons whom you can contact for input. They may include such persons as a farm business manager. Maybe he will need input from a lender.
[00:40:11.760]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: You can contact these persons and hold conference telephone
[00:40:18.540]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Call all
[00:40:21.780]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Confer through go to meeting or on your
[00:40:29.820]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Smartphone, go ahead and turn. Next slide.
[00:40:34.260]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: That building a support team is an important step toward making sure we have the ways of overcoming difficulty.
[00:40:47.010]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: You may want to include
[00:40:49.920]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: A counselor who understands agriculture and engage that person in a telephone conference call with others about what can we do to manage distress. Remember, as I said, we can manage our behavior.
[00:41:05.580]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: And these steps that I'm describing are within our control other specific behaviors that help us are talking honestly and confidentially with family members.
[00:41:19.710]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Or with wise persons in our community who we know will keep things quiet.
[00:41:27.330]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We should engage daily in habits of prayer and meditation physical exercise if you're not getting it on the farm or ranch and taking breaks
[00:41:40.860]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Away from the situation even if only for a couple of hours or or a day, while others take over and you recuperate and not think about all of these troubling things
[00:41:55.470]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: So I have learned the hard way that I had to do that. I got my toes in the combine in 1990 and I lost the toes on my right foot, and it was because I was overdoing it. I was working too hard. I wasn't paying attention and got my foot in the auger in the hopper.
[00:42:18.510]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: I learned the hard way that when I am trying too hard to deal with too much. I get bollock stuff my thinking gets
[00:42:29.670]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Kind of narrow and I have learned that at that time, I need to do some thing that is entirely different. So I would throw the
[00:42:42.150]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: canoe on our truck and I would go fishing for a couple of hours it look kind of funny.
[00:42:47.970]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: To our neighbors, I'm sure. But, you know, it probably saved my life a time or two because I got away from the situation and I could comfortably. Think about what was going on. Another thing to keep in mind is that you can give and request comforting touches. Now you all know how cattle.
[00:43:13.290]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: licking each other's necks how horses do that when they do that firms their bonds as mates in a herd, it makes them feel good. It pumps their serotonin and norepinephrine. It helps them.
[00:43:31.440]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Develop a sense of well being within the herd. The same thing happens when we stroke each others arms like this if you
[00:43:43.500]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Stroke each others arms and hands.
[00:43:47.370]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: It gives us a sense of relaxation. It helps us to produce serotonin and norepinephrine and makes us feel a lot better. Next slide.
[00:44:03.960]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: You can do these things by main while maintaining physical distance, make sure that you do have a balanced diet and have adequate fruits and vegetables.
[00:44:17.430]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: You've heard that all before control your alcohol intake and drugs, even those that may be prescribed. That doesn't mean you can't use a sleep aid to help you get to sleep if you're
[00:44:32.550]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: If you're a physician prescribes it, and indeed do that if nothing else works to help you get adequate rest.
[00:44:40.800]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Don't be afraid of calling the hotline or helpline or seeking a counselor who can help you work this through check also with the Farm Service Agency to see what programs you qualify for. Next slide.
[00:44:59.670]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Remember that how we manage our behaviors, kind of like how we manage a feed ration
[00:45:06.900]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We know that if we're getting calves ready to sell a sale barn that probably they're going to sell a little higher if they've been weaned
[00:45:18.870]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: And started on a diet of grass and
[00:45:26.550]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: No longer rely on Mama's milk.
[00:45:30.330]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We can manage the diet of that calf by making sure that it has adequate.
[00:45:39.870]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Energy in the grass and the, hey, maybe it needs. Just a little bit of grain to help it get warmed up and to give it a little extra boost. We want to make sure that the diet has about 14% protein. We know that it also has to include all the essential trace elements like salt, sodium
[00:46:02.700]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: It has to have zinc in it. You know what your mineral is necessarily must include in order to keep your animals healthy so we humans can manage our behavior ration
[00:46:16.740]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We can determine how much sleep. We need do we need six hours or eight hours.
[00:46:25.200]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Remember, if you need eight hours and you only get five hours a night you've accumulated three hours of sleep debt. Yes, depth, just like financial debt.
[00:46:35.340]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: If you do that for five nights in a row, you have accumulated 15 hours of sleep debt, which is almost like
[00:46:43.710]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Not sleeping at all for two nights, you're thinking deteriorates you do dumb things you take risks. So make sure that your behavior ration includes the time
[00:46:58.920]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: For recreation for prayer for stress relief and have as a part of that behavior health plan have a plan for dealing with Govan. Let's go to the next slide.
[00:47:16.260]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We're just about at the end.
[00:47:20.550]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Dr. Tina put together these resources for us, you'll see the Nebraska rural response hotline farm aid can also be a useful hotline is answered only by persons who understand agriculture.
[00:47:37.020]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: The trouble with both of these hotlines is that they're not available all the time. They operate during business hours. So you may have to call a hotline. That is different, such as the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline or your emergency room in your local hospital.
[00:48:02.370]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: It is better to do that than to allow your stinking thinking to cause you to do something dangerous to yourself or for others. Remember
[00:48:15.120]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Taking your own life is a permanent solution to a temporary problem and that's what cove. It is. It's a temporary problem. All of these stressors are temporary and we
[00:48:28.890]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Need to be sure that we're around after they remit, because there are last slide here yet when us
[00:48:40.620]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Hey, there's how you can find Dr. Tina and there's me. I do welcome emails I prefer that you email me first, because I have so many people that I try to respond to. I don't charge
[00:48:56.640]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: I simply do this because it is something that we need. And if I can be of help. I will try to do that. I certainly had many people from Nebraska, as well as all over the country, contact me over the last
[00:49:13.380]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Year about the last 234 years while we were going through tough times. This will do it for my presentation, I'm happy to answer any questions. We have about five to 10 minutes for that.
[00:49:28.410]Glennis McClure: Okay, I'm going to go ahead and stop this year. Obviously screen. And I do have a question for you. Um, so
[00:49:40.050]Glennis McClure: With farmers in a stressful situation. Some of them have been in, how can we help our farmers. Understand that who we are as a person for our personal identity. Identity is separate from the farm.
[00:49:55.800]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: That's good.
[00:49:57.660]Glennis McClure: They get wrapped up together a lot. Yes.
[00:49:59.790]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: They do.
[00:50:01.650]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: And that it turns out
[00:50:05.970]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: That we are programmed genetically to think that way Glenys and whoever that color was or emailer we are programmed to keep an eye out for threats and for the welfare of our land.
[00:50:24.870]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: This was first under discovered by an anthropologist in the 1990s, who was studying Kenyan sheep and cattle herders yes Kenya in Africa.
[00:50:42.540]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Dr Eisenberg.
[00:50:45.990]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: took samples of their blood and discovered that the Kenyan sheep and cattle herders who had the largest herds all so to require less sleep.
[00:51:02.190]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: They were more likely to spot predators such as lions, they were able to keep an eye out for green pastures.
[00:51:13.260]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: These people. Turns out, had hyperactive attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. Who could have imagined that
[00:51:22.200]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: But ADHD actually makes us better farmers and ranchers, because we don't need quite as much sleep and we keep an eye on whatever we can do to hang on to those important
[00:51:37.350]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Assets. Now that is not as important as preserving our own lives and the word is getting out that it's okay. In fact, it is best for us to maintain optimal
[00:51:54.690]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Behavioral Health in order to make good decisions. There are plenty of studies now that are showing
[00:52:03.930]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: ranchers who have
[00:52:07.380]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: happy and satisfied managers and employees who feel valued and stable emotionally. They have fewer veterinary visits.
[00:52:20.100]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: If they operate dairies they have a lower somatic cell counts in the melt that their cars produce so the data is clear. We need to maintain good mental and behavioral health in order to make optimally sound decisions and function. The best on our farm operations.
[00:52:45.660]Glennis McClure: Okay, another question might be that you know farms are in, you know, rural Nebraska.
[00:52:54.060]Glennis McClure: You can go miles and miles without seeing anyone and of course with Kobe it in some cases were more isolated than we've ever been. And so how do we
[00:53:03.960]Glennis McClure: How do we overcome some of that at this point in time. I know something's you're opening back up. But then there's still people with great great concerns about really, you know, you know, part of the public again for well
[00:53:18.240]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Good question, we almost always have now a cell phone with us. The cell phones have saved many lives because if you have a cell phone on you and you're an attractor rollover in a cab and
[00:53:34.440]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: You need to have somebody help you, you can contact assistance by telephone, but you can also stay in touch with family members with employees with other people who are part of your network of supports maybe the agronomist or the livestock nutritionist.
[00:53:57.090]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Perhaps even a lender. So the cell phone is our best tool and so is the computer because we have links with other persons and it is
[00:54:13.920]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: I think fortunate that we have these devices, I might also say that we have become much more open as agricultural producers to seeking behavioral health care a poll was done in
[00:54:32.370]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: April 2019
[00:54:36.300]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Pardon me, have a little over 2000 rural residents from around the country that 2000 sample.
[00:54:47.160]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Included farmers and ranchers, the poor undertaken are supported by the American Farm Bureau Federation was actually taken by Morning Consult
[00:55:01.110]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: And the findings were that
[00:55:03.960]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: 90% of rural and agricultural people would reach out for help now.
[00:55:13.020]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Which is very different than it was during the farm prices of the 80s, then it was much harder. Less than half the people reached out for help.
[00:55:22.890]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We found in our own 15 year project that initially women were the first to call hotlines and helplines now it's men in Nebraska, the gender of the persons who contact the rural response hotline is about 56% male first and instead of women so
[00:55:49.500]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: It's become acceptable to talk about behavioral health. We can hardly ever pick up a farm publication without reading something in it about managing stress or the signs of depression.
[00:56:04.380]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: You see webinars like this one here today.
[00:56:08.430]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Farmers and Ranchers, even now talk about behavioral health like they do having diabetes or heart issues. There's one group of people in a small town near where I live.
[00:56:21.240]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Every Monday morning that somebody brings a column from an a, an agricultural publication might even been one that I wrote.
[00:56:30.390]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: And they say, I wonder what roseman Scott to say about this now and they talk about it during coffee. Who would have thought that was possible. Years ago, you didn't do that. But now is becoming
[00:56:44.670]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: more open and it's a good thing.
[00:56:47.700]Glennis McClure: Okay, so, um, yeah, kind of along those lines. I guess maybe our education is helping for sure.
[00:56:53.880]Glennis McClure: Sure that stigma, but we do have someone that asked about other suggestions for community outreach programs or events that could help lessen the effect, especially that of Kobe.
[00:57:04.830]Glennis McClure: Before there's major stress problems in our area, you know, we know a lot of lot of issues are building and obviously we want to save those off. So, any other thoughts you have on that, Dr. Rosen.
[00:57:15.360]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Yeah, I do. We found that community workshops were also a best practice besides hotlines and help lines and free counseling community workshops that brought together.
[00:57:28.440]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Businesses from town with agricultural producers, these
[00:57:34.740]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Workshops often are held during the winter, but they are now being held during stressful times even times with coven AND WE CAN TUNE IN. Through telephone and computers like we're doing so.
[00:57:52.710]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: We know that having these community workshops diminishes our sense of isolation, it opens us up to possible options and it even becomes helpful to find out who we might ask to be on our
[00:58:12.120]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Team of supporters often includes somebody from extension, because there is much expertise at the UL extension and in other extension programs expertise about a wide range of matters. Everything from
[00:58:33.120]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Knowing how to set up a business plan for a lender to
[00:58:41.610]Dr. Michael R. Rosmann: Well, just a whole range of granny agronomic and animal issues so Nuff said
[00:58:50.190]Glennis McClure: All right, well thank you so much. There was one participant that just wanted to share
[00:58:55.620]Glennis McClure: That even with non farm family members, helping stay in touch regularly with farming relatives. So this person calls their two siblings every Friday.
[00:59:04.830]Glennis McClure: Now, due to the coven stuff and they know they'll call and they think that it's really helping out so non non farming folks staying in touch with the farming, folks.
[00:59:14.370]Glennis McClure: Because then we just know there's a lot of issues and and so that's that's a really neat idea. So with that, I think we'll go ahead and close
[00:59:21.270]Glennis McClure: I want to say thank you Dr. Wiseman for the information you presented and thank you everyone for joining us today.
[00:59:28.230]Glennis McClure: A recording of the webinar will be posted at farm ul.edu where you can also register for other upcoming webinars.
[00:59:36.360]Glennis McClure: As a reminder, check farm W and l.edu for a schedule of our webinars in this series, focusing on coven 19 impact on agriculture in Nebraska next Thursday, May 28 at noon will hear from Roger Barry is the Nebraska ethanol board about the past, present and future of us and all
[00:59:57.750]Glennis McClure: So you'll all be receiving a short 32nd survey in your email. We really appreciate your feedback on today's webinar and your input on future sessions. Thank you again for joining us. Everyone. Take care. Thank you.
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