Where’s the Money? (Part 2)
Where’s the Money? – Part 2 of 2
As if the ag economy wasn’t struggling enough, along comes COVID-19 with more economic unknowns. Watch to see how you can keep hope and peace alive in this difficult time.
This video is part of the “Start the Conversation: Taking Care During Tough Times” video series created for Nebraska Extension’s Wellness in Tough Times project. The videos, led by Dr. Christine Chasek, include various strategies to improve your well-being and reduce stress during this challenging time.
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[00:00:21.760]All right, well welcome back
[00:00:22.960]to part two of Where's the Money,
[00:00:25.120]and so the finances of mental health.
[00:00:27.620]If you listened to part one,
[00:00:28.910]you might be thinkin' well, what's the use
[00:00:30.580]of even talkin' about all of this, right?
[00:00:32.750]There's nothing really we can do.
[00:00:35.490]A lot of this financial stuff is out of control
[00:00:37.730]in terms of how we can deal with making money,
[00:00:41.700]and agricultural production.
[00:00:43.976]But there are some things that we can do,
[00:00:46.220]and we'll look at that,
[00:00:48.070]at least from a mental health perspective.
[00:00:50.350]And so, when we look at finances and mental health,
[00:00:53.997]there are some facts.
[00:00:56.190]And so the facts are that folks who are in debt
[00:00:59.170]are three times as likely to suffer from increased stress,
[00:01:04.030]depression, anxiety, and some of those
[00:01:06.690]other kind of difficulties in emotional health.
[00:01:11.060]And the other fact is that financial stress
[00:01:14.033]is the second most common cause of suicide.
[00:01:18.060]And so when you have a lot of financial difficulties,
[00:01:23.910]your mental health and your emotional health
[00:01:25.550]really takes a hit.
[00:01:27.154]We can see it drop, people's mental health,
[00:01:29.720]emotional well being, and stability drops
[00:01:31.990]when they're really struggling with finances.
[00:01:34.260]Life feels out of control,
[00:01:36.315]you start to avoid things potentially
[00:01:39.340]because you don't want to think about
[00:01:41.150]or deal with the financial problems.
[00:01:43.310]You start searching for temporary relief from the problems
[00:01:47.510]because it seems like it's so insurmountable to deal with.
[00:01:51.634]Your self-esteem drops, and that's especially true
[00:01:54.860]I think a lot for agricultural folks,
[00:01:57.050]where it's really tied into, you know,
[00:02:00.890]how well you do is tied into who you are
[00:02:02.813]because your identity is that you are,
[00:02:07.810]you know a farmer, a rancher, an agricultural worker
[00:02:12.300]who works the land.
[00:02:14.930]Energy levels decrease, and it's really hard
[00:02:17.200]to think clearly, and so that makes it more difficult.
[00:02:20.240]You know, you've gotta have full use, really,
[00:02:23.837]of your, of all of your good problem solving skills,
[00:02:28.590]your thinking skills,
[00:02:30.010]when you're dealing with financial stuff,
[00:02:31.750]and it really is difficult, you know,
[00:02:35.195]when what you're dealing with is impairing your ability
[00:02:39.880]to think clearly, and think straight.
[00:02:41.910]And so what I really described in terms of the facts around
[00:02:47.197]that debt is the hugest piece of your mental health,
[00:02:51.768]that there is maybe what we're really growing on the farm
[00:02:57.310]is a lot of stress, right?
[00:02:59.250]Because farmers operate out of debt.
[00:03:01.240]That's the whole imperative, or the whole point really,
[00:03:05.720]and how the whole system is set up.
[00:03:07.950]That it is a debt driven system,
[00:03:11.390]and so right, you have operating loans,
[00:03:13.630]and you're operating out of money
[00:03:15.480]that's been lent from the banks,
[00:03:17.000]and you're trying to recoup that.
[00:03:19.200]And so that really becomes difficult,
[00:03:22.530]and you gotta find a way to separate yourself from that.
[00:03:26.594]The American Farm Bureau Federation in 2019 did a survey
[00:03:33.350]of agricultural folks across the country,
[00:03:36.013]and 91% of those who responded
[00:03:39.540]said that financial issues
[00:03:40.754]are the most important thing to deal with, and to,
[00:03:45.800]that they deal with in terms of their mental health, right?
[00:03:48.370]That that's the number one driver
[00:03:49.891]of any kind of mental health issues that they have,
[00:03:52.890]and 88% said they have farm and business problems, right?
[00:03:57.970]That's a huge portion of the population.
[00:04:01.950]And 87% feared losing the farm.
[00:04:04.770]And so, most folks are, I mean maybe that is
[00:04:08.430]growing stress on the farm.
[00:04:10.340]That's really kind of what a lot of focus
[00:04:12.700]is about is the stress.
[00:04:14.590]And when we look across some other studies
[00:04:17.470]that have been done
[00:04:18.303]in terms of mental health and agriculture,
[00:04:20.067]there's folks that even will go further and say,
[00:04:23.870]yes, I do myself, I am experiencing depression,
[00:04:27.380]or I am experiencing anxiety.
[00:04:29.533]Just about 60% would endorse that they experience
[00:04:33.150]a lot of anxiety, and a lot of worry.
[00:04:35.980]35% would say they experience depression,
[00:04:38.730]and 45% say that they're in a high stress.
[00:04:42.340]And the thing about it is is that stress,
[00:04:45.610]a lot of stress, and high stress,
[00:04:47.933]leads to things like depression, anxiety,
[00:04:51.820]and more serious kinds of mental health concerns.
[00:04:54.280]It is, if you're in that kind of state for long enough
[00:04:58.232]it turns into depression,
[00:05:00.480]and then depression if you're in that long enough
[00:05:02.530]can turn into your thinking being so clouded
[00:05:04.610]that you feel like, you know, taking your own life
[00:05:07.920]is a good idea, and a way to get out of the whole situation,
[00:05:10.920]which clearly we know is not a good idea.
[00:05:14.640]And so, I think it goes a little bit further in terms of
[00:05:20.370]the farming, the agricultural folks who work the farm,
[00:05:24.300]who work the land, who have livestock,
[00:05:26.757]who are growing our food,
[00:05:28.810]the identity is really tied to who you are as a farmer,
[00:05:32.560]and that's who you,
[00:05:36.660]that's everything, right?
[00:05:38.140]And if you fail as a farmer, you fail as a person.
[00:05:41.350]And they call this, in the literature,
[00:05:43.990]the agrarian imperative, and it's really,
[00:05:46.220]it's things that are, the idea that we are tied to the land,
[00:05:51.840]and especially people who own land,
[00:05:53.740]and who work the land,
[00:05:55.810]and operate their life around the land,
[00:05:59.794]that that is a genetic kind of drive in a lot of ways.
[00:06:06.400]And this work comes from Dr. Michael Rosmann,
[00:06:08.660]and he's just a great psychologist, a farmer out of Iowa
[00:06:13.020]who's dedicated his life to this issue as well.
[00:06:16.140]And the land means everything, is what he says.
[00:06:19.290]And I have a quote from one of his writings
[00:06:22.750]that I just thought was so good,
[00:06:24.710]and it says, "To farmers, land means everything.
[00:06:27.987]"Ownership of a family farm is the triumphant result
[00:06:31.687]"of the struggles of multiple generations.
[00:06:34.737]"Losing the family farm is the ultimate loss,
[00:06:37.767]"bringing shame to the generation that has lost the farm,
[00:06:43.847]"and they've let down their forbears
[00:06:45.857]"and dashing the hopes for successors."
[00:06:49.380]And so, you know, you feel like
[00:06:50.890]you've not only failed yourself,
[00:06:52.430]but you've failed the people that came before you,
[00:06:55.040]and you're failing the ones that will come after you, right?
[00:06:58.470]So it's just, it feels like this huge weight.
[00:07:01.830]You know, when you look at 87% of people
[00:07:04.080]worry about losing the farm?
[00:07:07.710]That's a lot of folks
[00:07:09.170]that are sitting in a lot of high stress,
[00:07:11.890]and so, suicides really become,
[00:07:16.740]have become a crisis, really, in the ag community.
[00:07:21.610]Just like it was in the '80s, we're seeing that again.
[00:07:24.500]And farm suicides just keep
[00:07:25.960]climbing, and climbing, and climbing.
[00:07:28.550]The CDC did a study not too long ago,
[00:07:31.580]and came out with this big, sweeping statement that said,
[00:07:34.427]"Farming and agriculture
[00:07:35.487]"has the highest amount of suicide of any industry."
[00:07:39.730]And that got a lot of attention for a while,
[00:07:41.834]and then they ended up retracting that
[00:07:44.500]because they had some problems in their data.
[00:07:46.750]And in the way they categorized things,
[00:07:48.980]and so they said, "Oh, wait, wait, wait,
[00:07:50.584]"that's not true, that's not true,"
[00:07:52.290]and so in some ways, we all kinda went
[00:07:54.420]oh, well thank goodness, right?
[00:07:56.160]But the story is that really, what happens
[00:08:01.473]is that farmers are put in a different kind of category.
[00:08:08.520]So when they looked at the whole industry, right,
[00:08:12.200]they took into consideration migrant farm workers,
[00:08:16.388]workers who work in agriculture,
[00:08:19.247]and when they look at that huge category, it's not as bad.
[00:08:22.580]But when you take out the farmers who are owner operators,
[00:08:26.430]and they're in the management category,
[00:08:28.870]that subcategory actually is the second highest
[00:08:33.610]category of folks who
[00:08:37.010]take their own life.
[00:08:38.060]And so it truly is an issue when you look at,
[00:08:42.860]especially the folks who own the land, right?
[00:08:45.020]Who are the farmer owner operators,
[00:08:47.160]that that's, suicide is very, very high for those folks.
[00:08:50.810]And so we have to pay attention to it,
[00:08:52.630]and we have to have some real conversations around that.
[00:08:57.320]And so, what, it leads me to think about
[00:09:01.420]what is the most important thing to maintain or take care of
[00:09:05.430]if you're gonna have a successful farming operation?
[00:09:08.520]And you know, you've gotta take care of your,
[00:09:12.860]the equipment, the livestock,
[00:09:14.950]you know your buildings.
[00:09:16.690]You gotta take care of breakdowns in planters, in tractors,
[00:09:21.880]and all of the livestock you've gotta maintain
[00:09:26.510]to make sure they're vaccinated and healthy,
[00:09:28.430]and have enough food, all those things.
[00:09:30.190]There's so much maintenance to do,
[00:09:32.060]but the most important piece of equipment
[00:09:33.900]on the farm to maintain is the farmer, or the rancher.
[00:09:37.950]And that is probably the one piece of equipment
[00:09:40.889]that gets neglected the most, right?
[00:09:44.510]You'll maintain your tractors,
[00:09:45.900]you'll maintain your irrigation pumps,
[00:09:47.567]you'll maintain your, health of your livestock,
[00:09:50.729]but you don't maintain your own health.
[00:09:53.370]And that, if you are not healthy,
[00:09:56.159]as the owner operator and the farmer,
[00:09:58.700]the rest of it isn't really gonna matter, right?
[00:10:01.070]So how can you maintain your mental health?
[00:10:03.300]That's really what I want this conversation to be about.
[00:10:06.540]How can we maintain our own mental health,
[00:10:08.830]despite the financial difficulties, right?
[00:10:10.880]I mean, those are some things
[00:10:12.120]that we can't necessarily control on whole, right?
[00:10:15.950]I mean there's just things.
[00:10:16.910]You operate out of debt,
[00:10:18.468]there's lots of expenses,
[00:10:20.228]the prices sometimes, you don't have a whole lot to do with,
[00:10:24.760]you just have to make the best decisions with what you have.
[00:10:27.450]But it is so important that you do
[00:10:30.660]take care of yourself and your well being, right?
[00:10:32.790]Those are things that you can control.
[00:10:35.471]You know, no government is telling you
[00:10:37.590]that you can't take care of yourself, right?
[00:10:39.610]That you can't get out and do some of the things
[00:10:41.407]that you need to do to maintain yourself,
[00:10:45.590]your most important piece of equipment on the farm.
[00:10:48.160]And so we have a saying, "It's Nebraska strong"
[00:10:52.320]to take care of yourself, to reach out, to ask for help,
[00:10:54.820]and to deal with your emotional well being.
[00:10:57.710]It's probably one of the best things that you can do,
[00:10:59.743]and I think we have to think about farming
[00:11:02.520]maybe, and ranching and this way of lifestyle
[00:11:05.070]from a different point of view,
[00:11:06.170]and focus more heavily on that.
[00:11:08.270]And that is, you know, first off, change our mindset.
[00:11:11.301]That even though you operate out of debt,
[00:11:14.610]and prices aren't good, and the weather can be terrible,
[00:11:17.160]and all those things we grumble about, right?
[00:11:18.820]All the folks at the coffee shop and the city hall
[00:11:22.270]behind my house, every morning gather
[00:11:24.121]to complain about, right?
[00:11:26.578]There are some things that we can maybe talk about
[00:11:30.110]being good things about farming,
[00:11:32.170]and focus on those, which is,
[00:11:34.880]I think farmers have the best view from their office
[00:11:39.659]that anybody does, right?
[00:11:41.880]I mean you really do get to see the world, and nature,
[00:11:45.541]in what happens on your farm.
[00:11:47.930]I've got a little bit of taste of that
[00:11:49.310]being at home a lot, and being more outside.
[00:11:51.670]I mean I've got bunnies, and birds,
[00:11:54.540]and all kinds of creatures and critters in my yard
[00:11:56.800]that I didn't really know were there
[00:11:58.880]'cause I never really took the time to pay attention.
[00:12:01.376]And so, you know, that is really important
[00:12:04.330]to kind of shift your mindset.
[00:12:06.070]The other thing is to practice gratitude and relaxation.
[00:12:09.717]And so, you know,
[00:12:12.100]we will have actually a webinar and podcast on gratitude,
[00:12:16.676]and how important that is in this series,
[00:12:19.370]so make sure you listen to that one,
[00:12:21.140]because when you practice gratitude and relaxation
[00:12:24.460]and kinda those pieces,
[00:12:25.980]you really are changing your,
[00:12:30.580]your physiological self, right?
[00:12:32.350]The way that your brain is operating,
[00:12:34.240]and the way that you feel internally.
[00:12:36.790]The other thing that you have to do
[00:12:37.747]is you have to take care of your health.
[00:12:39.780]And so that is things like getting enough sleep,
[00:12:42.950]which is eight to, seven to eight,
[00:12:46.070]maybe nine hours of sleep a night consistently.
[00:12:49.750]You can't short yourself on sleep and catch up on it.
[00:12:52.190]It doesn't work that way.
[00:12:54.140]You have to stay in a long sleep cycle
[00:12:56.340]to get the emotional benefits,
[00:12:57.736]because the first few hours of your sleep
[00:13:00.570]are for physical repair,
[00:13:02.250]and then you get into kind of more of a deeper sleep
[00:13:06.220]in later cycles, which takes care of the emotional repair.
[00:13:09.877]And kinda helps kinda recharge and reset your brain.
[00:13:14.156]You have to have support, right?
[00:13:16.100]And so folks who come alongside you,
[00:13:17.920]and if you are having a problem,
[00:13:21.317]you can talk to them about it.
[00:13:23.560]So talking it out really helps.
[00:13:25.260]You have to have exercise, good nutrition,
[00:13:28.200]and you know, farmers do a lot of physical work,
[00:13:31.530]and so your body's used to that.
[00:13:33.360]You need to step it up, right?
[00:13:35.080]So do something a little extra
[00:13:36.336]outside of your normal routine
[00:13:38.434]in order for you to have the health benefits,
[00:13:40.716]and it doesn't have to be a ton.
[00:13:42.940]It can just be taking a walk, maybe,
[00:13:45.730]around your property instead of driving somewhere
[00:13:47.890]on the tractor or the four wheeler or the Rhino, right?
[00:13:51.979]Just go take a walk, you know, take a 30 minute walk
[00:13:56.030]to go check that closest pivot, or whatever you need to do.
[00:14:00.492]You need to have some fun, right?
[00:14:02.470]And do some things that you enjoy,
[00:14:04.510]either on the farm, or off the farm.
[00:14:06.810]And then the last thing is to limit your use of substances,
[00:14:09.380]because that really can have a negative effect
[00:14:11.360]if you're overdoing those kinds of negative things, right?
[00:14:18.416]When you're using substances to try to forget the problems,
[00:14:23.196]the issue with that is that
[00:14:25.960]when you're not using those substances later,
[00:14:29.570]you know, after you've sobered up,
[00:14:32.500]or you've come back to reality, the problem is still there.
[00:14:36.750]And then you've also started damaging your health
[00:14:39.450]if you use that too much.
[00:14:42.020]And so we really have to think about,
[00:14:43.936]maybe it's not so much about the money
[00:14:48.370]that's the most important part of the farm.
[00:14:51.499]You know, money is great, and you need enough to survive,
[00:14:55.380]and pay the bills, and do all those kinds of things,
[00:14:58.130]and you do have to have a financial plan, right?
[00:15:01.150]That's another way that you can
[00:15:02.556]kinda help your mental health
[00:15:04.290]around this issue is have a plan.
[00:15:06.210]Control what you can, and let go of what you can't.
[00:15:09.830]And so working with your financial adviser,
[00:15:14.570]all the people that you have around you
[00:15:16.290]to help in that area, to be honest and have conversations,
[00:15:19.380]and make good decisions with support is really important.
[00:15:22.610]But, you know, some say the ultimate goal of farming
[00:15:25.010]is not so much the growing, that comes and goes,
[00:15:30.050]some of those things,
[00:15:31.360]but the cultivation and the perfection of human beings.
[00:15:36.350]So yourself, your family, your kids,
[00:15:39.610]you know your parents, your grandparents,
[00:15:41.099]and kind of that whole way of life.
[00:15:44.370]So it should be tied to more than just one goal.
[00:15:49.440]It should have many different pieces of it
[00:15:52.290]so that your mental and emotional health
[00:15:55.259]stays in a good place.
[00:15:58.900]And so, you need to think about this differently.
[00:16:01.830]That farmers aren't just good at their jobs, right?
[00:16:04.610]They're outstanding in their field.
[00:16:09.393]So that really is, you can be really good at your job,
[00:16:14.013]as a farmer, and still not make it,
[00:16:17.120]because there's so many things that might be
[00:16:20.160]working against you that you just have no control over.
[00:16:22.840]And so rather than thinking I've failed as a person,
[00:16:25.218]you know, you think I did the best
[00:16:27.720]that I could with what I had,
[00:16:29.390]and these are the tough choices
[00:16:30.840]that I have to make, right, and get support.
[00:16:34.400]But sometimes, right, you not only
[00:16:39.390]maybe need help, but sometimes
[00:16:41.190]you also can be the help, right?
[00:16:43.490]And so I just, I want to talk a little bit
[00:16:46.960]about the signs of suicide,
[00:16:49.440]or maybe if you're worried about somebody
[00:16:52.120]who is not doing well,
[00:16:54.450]I would tell you that the gentleman that I told you about
[00:16:57.392]who took his own life in the community,
[00:17:00.794]there were signs that people saw ahead of time.
[00:17:05.670]And you know, I've heard many people around the community
[00:17:10.460]say, "I wished I would've said something."
[00:17:12.810]And the thing is, we don't wanna have regret, right?
[00:17:15.630]So if you see something, say something.
[00:17:18.880]And on the other hand, you know,
[00:17:21.900]we can't take responsibility for somebody else's choices.
[00:17:25.320]And it can be so hard to think gosh,
[00:17:27.740]I should've done something, it's all my fault,
[00:17:29.867]and it's not all your fault.
[00:17:32.710]But you know, you certainly can,
[00:17:34.890]like they say, sometimes you are the helper to other people,
[00:17:38.530]and don't be scared to say it,
[00:17:39.930]because you're not gonna plant the idea in anybody's head.
[00:17:43.480]Right, if you bring it up,
[00:17:45.550]you are not going to push that person
[00:17:47.230]into completing a suicide.
[00:17:50.030]And so, with some signs that you might see
[00:17:53.290]is if people are stressed, and depressed
[00:17:57.030]for long periods of time,
[00:17:58.600]they're not acting like themselves,
[00:18:00.280]they seem really down.
[00:18:01.910]Maybe they used to come to coffee,
[00:18:03.380]but they don't anymore.
[00:18:04.970]Their health is not good.
[00:18:07.810]Other people just say, "I'm worried about this person"
[00:18:10.900]that are close in their life.
[00:18:13.060]They've maybe increased their substance use,
[00:18:15.034]and they're drinking a lot,
[00:18:17.354]or using other substances
[00:18:19.670]to kind of numb out and forget things.
[00:18:21.872]Maybe they're giving things away,
[00:18:24.200]or saying things like,
[00:18:25.417]"People would be better off without me,"
[00:18:27.447]"The farm would run better if I wasn't in charge."
[00:18:30.540]Some of those statements are very concerning,
[00:18:33.034]and tell you a little bit about that person's
[00:18:34.880]emotional well being in that they're not in a good place.
[00:18:37.893]The other thing we would get very concerned about
[00:18:41.390]if somebody's in that place,
[00:18:42.440]and been stressed and depressed for a long time,
[00:18:44.830]and then all the sudden they seem to be doing really great,
[00:18:47.320]like they've had this spontaneous recovery
[00:18:49.830]and they're doing really good,
[00:18:50.970]and they're really happy,
[00:18:52.512]that we have to watch that too,
[00:18:55.540]because some people, why they're feeling better
[00:18:58.390]is because they've made the decision,
[00:19:00.440]and made some plans around
[00:19:02.410]how they're going to fix the problem,
[00:19:04.670]and that they're ready to take that step,
[00:19:08.660]and that's where we really, really get concerned.
[00:19:11.970]And so talk to folks, and if that's you,
[00:19:14.790]definitely talk to people,
[00:19:16.270]and there is a, suicide is a very temporary solution.
[00:19:22.580]Sorry, suicide is a very permanent solution
[00:19:25.410]to a temporary problem, right?
[00:19:28.010]So the problems are temporary.
[00:19:30.240]Suicide is permanent.
[00:19:31.750]And so if you see somebody, or if you're worried, reach out.
[00:19:35.020]It is Nebraska strong, and we have
[00:19:36.660]some really good resources for that.
[00:19:41.060]The number one resource we have is in the state of Nebraska
[00:19:44.210]is the Rural Response Hotline.
[00:19:46.220]And it offers access to attorneys, to financial advisers
[00:19:50.090]if that's driving the problems that you have.
[00:19:53.350]They have financial advisers that can help.
[00:19:56.130]They have mediators, they have clergy, spiritual help,
[00:20:00.030]and also professional counselors.
[00:20:02.140]And so, that hotline, when you call,
[00:20:06.360]you can get no cost vouchers for counseling services.
[00:20:11.560]And so that's like handing somebody hundreds of dollars,
[00:20:15.847]because they will pay for the services
[00:20:18.680]that folks might need, which is fantastic.
[00:20:22.580]So that number is
[00:20:30.363]And again, I'll just repeat that number
[00:20:32.106]so you can jot it down.
[00:20:40.840]And the hours for that
[00:20:41.870]are Monday through Friday, eight to five.
[00:20:44.010]And so you can call, and you can also leave a message
[00:20:47.340]if nobody's available,
[00:20:48.790]and they will get back to you.
[00:20:52.160]The other hotline that we have,
[00:20:54.520]which is kind of more nationwide is the Farm Aid Hotline.
[00:20:57.300]And this was started back in the '80s with the farm crisis,
[00:21:00.220]and they realized the financial difficulties and troubles
[00:21:03.020]were having an emotional impact.
[00:21:04.950]And so that's kept going, and it's had kind of a resurgence,
[00:21:08.400]and so that hotline offers support
[00:21:12.290]to a wide array of services kind of nationwide
[00:21:16.450]and across the country.
[00:21:17.350]So if you're concerned about somebody in another state,
[00:21:20.207]that could be a good resource.
[00:21:21.990]And that number is
[00:21:27.760]and their hours are Monday through Friday nine to five.
[00:21:31.690]Now, sometimes you know, our crises don't come
[00:21:34.800]between the hours of eight to five, right?
[00:21:36.810]And we may need to talk to somebody
[00:21:38.527]in the middle of the night,
[00:21:40.426]or just whenever you need help, reach out for help.
[00:21:45.910]So the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
[00:21:48.561]is another resource, another 800 crisis line and center
[00:21:54.360]that provides free and confidential support
[00:21:56.900]to people in crisis.
[00:21:59.220]And so they operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
[00:22:03.130]So the number for that one is
[00:22:11.720]Again, that 1-800 number
[00:22:14.680]for the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is
[00:22:23.680]And if you would rather text than talk on the phone,
[00:22:27.330]they also have a text line,
[00:22:29.410]and if you text GO,
[00:22:31.970]so that's text G-O to 741741,
[00:22:38.630]you will have a person respond to you on the text.
[00:22:42.388]And so those are some really good resources,
[00:22:45.100]and sometimes if you're dealing with a younger population
[00:22:49.430]or something, the texting
[00:22:50.670]might be a really good way to start.
[00:22:53.760]So of course, I am always available as well.
[00:22:56.380]I'm a local resource.
[00:22:58.070]I work at the University of Nebraska Kearney now,
[00:23:00.300]so I have a private practice,
[00:23:01.727]and can certainly help connect people to services
[00:23:06.970]or questions you have about this webinar,
[00:23:08.930]or any way that I can be helpful,
[00:23:10.500]I'm more than happy to be that support.
[00:23:15.130]So my number is posted under the UNK website,
[00:23:21.010]and my email is there as well,
[00:23:23.163]and so that my email is my last name,
[00:23:30.150]C number one at unk.edu.
[00:23:35.540]And I'm just so grateful that I'm able to help in this way,
[00:23:39.084]and use my skills and talents to help those who feed us,
[00:23:42.870]and that's never become more apparent
[00:23:44.910]than during this COVID crisis.
[00:23:46.906]And so, we are just so grateful
[00:23:49.570]for all the things that you do in our ag community
[00:23:52.490]to keep us fed, to keep those shelves full
[00:23:55.090]in our grocery stores,
[00:23:56.530]and we wanna thank our sponsors
[00:23:59.807]who have generously provided
[00:24:01.663]so that we could bring you these resources,
[00:24:04.127]and so until next time, we are going to
[00:24:09.280]you know, just continue to have these webcasts and podcasts.
[00:24:12.506]We are gonna talk about gratitude in the next one,
[00:24:16.543]and so stay tuned for that,
[00:24:18.890]because guess what, gratitude makes you attractive.
[00:24:21.750]Thanks, everybody, bye-bye.
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