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The very best way to learn about Nebraska Law is to hear current students talk about their experiences and day to day life. We brought together some current students and asked them many of the questions we suspect you may have for them.

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[00:00:00.000](upbeat music)
[00:00:07.700]Hello and welcome.
[00:00:08.950]My name is Kyle Kardell.
[00:00:10.370]I'm an admissions counsellor here
[00:00:11.810]at the Nebraska College of Law.
[00:00:13.600]Today I'm joined with some current students
[00:00:15.760]to try to give you a perspective of what it's like
[00:00:17.880]to be a law student,
[00:00:19.150]specifically here at the Nebraska College of Law.
[00:00:21.780]So we're just gonna dive into it
[00:00:23.180]and get to know these students,
[00:00:25.070]give you a little perspective about what they go through
[00:00:27.300]on a daily basis, what they liked about Lincoln,
[00:00:29.560]how their experience has been here at Nebraska.
[00:00:31.540]So, thanks for joining us and thank you guys
[00:00:33.960]for joining us this morning.
[00:00:36.030]So let's just start with name,
[00:00:38.643]where you're from, and what year you are.
[00:00:41.690]My name is Brian Halsy,
[00:00:42.780]I'm originally from Greeley, Colorado
[00:00:44.075]and I'm a second year law student.
[00:00:46.540]My name is Ariana Lopez.
[00:00:48.310]I am from Lakewood, California,
[00:00:50.900]and I'm a second year law student as well.
[00:00:54.090]My name is Julia Dohilm.
[00:00:55.160]I'm from Fort Collins, Colorado
[00:00:56.540]and I'm in resident 3L.
[00:00:59.060]I'm Josiah Nelson.
[00:01:00.360]I'm from Omaha, Nebraska and I am a winner.
[00:01:04.110]Very cool, good variety here today.
[00:01:05.920]So I wanna start with, let's go Brian, Ari and Julia,
[00:01:11.960]you're all from out of state.
[00:01:14.200]What is your experience been moving to Lincoln?
[00:01:15.950]What have you liked about moving to Lincoln?
[00:01:17.602]How's the transition been?
[00:01:20.700]You know, I think the community is really welcoming.
[00:01:23.820]At the same time, the admissions team
[00:01:25.930]that we have here reached out, they allowed us
[00:01:28.240]to connect with the university
[00:01:29.910]even before we were on campus.
[00:01:31.708]That helped me because when I came here
[00:01:33.750]I didn't know anybody, I didn't know Lincoln at all.
[00:01:36.440]I was actually out of the country
[00:01:37.880]when I was applying to law schools
[00:01:39.800]and so that transition made it much easier
[00:01:43.640]when I actually had to start classes
[00:01:45.130]and do those types of things.
[00:01:47.930]Yeah, I would have to agree with Brian.
[00:01:50.500]The admissions team here is amazing.
[00:01:54.320]I also work for admissions so I love admissions.
[00:01:58.110](group laughs) Holla at your girl.
[00:01:59.644](laughs)
[00:02:01.440]But the transition was amazing.
[00:02:04.030]I feel like I'm so like, like I said, I'm from California
[00:02:07.580]and I'm really, I love my family
[00:02:11.270]and I'm very much a family person.
[00:02:14.150]I'm very family-oriented.
[00:02:15.980]And I just feel like coming here has helped
[00:02:19.900]'cause it's very close, neat and it's a tight community.
[00:02:22.700]And I felt like whenever I go through something
[00:02:26.220]there everyone and admissions and everyone in the school
[00:02:28.970]is always there for me, and I think that's very comforting.
[00:02:32.480]So, yeah, that's my transition here.
[00:02:36.380]It's been amazing.
[00:02:38.457]Like I said, I'm from Fort Collins, Colorado
[00:02:40.400]so I didn't feel like I was moving that far away.
[00:02:43.320]But I went to undergraduate an hour from my hometown.
[00:02:46.880]And so coming seven hours away actually
[00:02:50.050]was a bigger transition than I was even anticipating.
[00:02:52.730]And I think that just kinda like Ariana said,
[00:02:55.858]the fact that we, the fact that Lincoln is so close
[00:03:01.620]and the law school community wanted to be a community
[00:03:03.910]so strongly, we started having events right away
[00:03:06.430]like the first week of my 1L year,
[00:03:08.490]started getting together,
[00:03:09.870]and like building our relationships with each other.
[00:03:12.490]That allowed it to be where I wasn't missing home as much,
[00:03:16.110]and it really eased my transition into school,
[00:03:18.910]making friends and having that same group of students
[00:03:21.640]that you're going to class with all the time
[00:03:23.110]your first year.
[00:03:24.270]I mean, I think that that is really,
[00:03:26.070]just some of the best parts
[00:03:27.300]of starting your one in all 1L years.
[00:03:28.710]Everyone's so excited, and it's so new
[00:03:31.460]and you're learning so much right away,
[00:03:33.980]but it kind of makes the transition so much easier
[00:03:36.380]because everyone's in the same boat,
[00:03:37.830]like are just so excited to learn something
[00:03:39.520]entirely different than what you've done before.
[00:03:42.240]Cool.
[00:03:43.383]Yeah, my experience here, the city of Lincoln
[00:03:45.810]really revolves around the university.
[00:03:48.480]There's a lot of support for the university.
[00:03:49.910]It's a college town and hopefully you guys
[00:03:52.350]have experienced that during your time here too.
[00:03:56.620]I will dive into some time management stuff so,
[00:04:00.290]you've got school, you've got family, lives,
[00:04:03.700]Josiah you're married, there's a lot going on,
[00:04:05.710]how do you balance your work, study, fun, relax,
[00:04:11.720]your time management, how do you manage it?
[00:04:15.027]Oh the married person is there.
[00:04:16.127](laughs)
[00:04:16.990]So for me with being married
[00:04:18.710]and having an 18-month-old daughter,
[00:04:21.900]time management really is something that's really important,
[00:04:24.230]as well as driving down from Omaha every day.
[00:04:27.661]So, I came into law school with the,
[00:04:31.170]I'd been working for 10 years, full-time and so I was like,
[00:04:34.940]I'm just gonna treat this as another eight-to-five job.
[00:04:38.180]So I try to get here at 8:30 in the morning,
[00:04:42.120]and then I try to hang out here till 4:30 or so
[00:04:44.970]in the afternoon, and then try and get
[00:04:47.650]all of my studying done that I can in between classes,
[00:04:51.430]before classes, after classes, that kind of stuff.
[00:04:54.770]And then also having that dedicated time here
[00:04:58.690]is where I try to get my interaction with other students.
[00:05:02.540]I know that's one of the most important things
[00:05:04.240]about law school is building relationships
[00:05:06.230]because ultimately, the people that you're studying with
[00:05:08.940]are gonna be the people you're gonna be practicing
[00:05:10.900]with most likely for the next 20, 30, 40 years.
[00:05:14.870]So, for me that's like my time to really focus on school
[00:05:18.890]and people hear at law school
[00:05:20.420]and building those relationships.
[00:05:22.350]And then the 45-minute drive home kind of gives me a chance
[00:05:25.500]to clear my head, and then I can be all in with my family
[00:05:29.210]for a few hours and then when somebody goes to bed
[00:05:31.350]I try to study for hour, hour and a half or so.
[00:05:35.400]So that's kind of my routine.
[00:05:38.810]Well, I'm an Excel person and a planner,
[00:05:43.450]like I'm all about planning (giggles)
[00:05:46.190]but I never really understood the planners
[00:05:47.640]that were built in 15-minute increments
[00:05:49.280]until I came to law school and had my first clerkship.
[00:05:53.020]'Cause before then it was just like what assignments
[00:05:54.710]I have due this week or something much more general.
[00:05:57.760]But now I have it in half hour increments
[00:06:00.090]in an Excel spreadsheet that just because I'm in clinic
[00:06:02.410]and I've got court appointments that I'm coming to
[00:06:04.370]and meeting people, I'm really more about like,
[00:06:07.504]all of my social activities are on my planner
[00:06:11.030]and it's not that I don't have downtime, I definitely do
[00:06:13.730]and I make time for that, but I'm really trying to plan
[00:06:18.140]as much as I can because I'm not a person who can know
[00:06:21.130]that a reading assignment is gonna take me 45 minutes.
[00:06:23.954]I have a really hard time thinking about
[00:06:27.020]how long I'm actually gonna spend on something
[00:06:28.830]and if I get into a rabbit hole, or I'm researching,
[00:06:31.610]I mean, one-hour timed plan could turn
[00:06:35.070]into where I'm just now I'm in it and I'm not gonna stop.
[00:06:38.660]So, I think that knowing what my actual obligations are,
[00:06:42.663]in terms of where I need to be and when I need to be there
[00:06:45.430]that's like where my planning
[00:06:46.900]in terms of time management comes in
[00:06:48.310]and then I just kind of figure out when I have big gaps
[00:06:51.810]to do the other stuff because like I said,
[00:06:54.030]I might spend an hour on it,
[00:06:55.500]but I might spend three and that's just how I am so.
[00:07:00.920]So I'm definitely not like Julia.
[00:07:03.690]I do not have an Excel spreadsheet but I do have a calendar,
[00:07:08.080]that I started using more often because, you know,
[00:07:11.830]I'm a needed person apparently, I don't know.
[00:07:15.390]But, so what I do is in between classes,
[00:07:19.470]I try to get the next assignment done.
[00:07:22.540]So, my schedule this semester is like crazy.
[00:07:27.610]I have a bunch of night classes.
[00:07:29.470]And so I have huge gaps throughout the day.
[00:07:32.642]So, I make time to like,
[00:07:35.690]do tomorrow like the next day's assignment
[00:07:38.510]or read or even just, like, catch up sometimes.
[00:07:44.320](grins)
[00:07:45.623]And then, I balance, like my family always calls me
[00:07:50.880]and I'm like, you guys need to stop calling me,
[00:07:53.120]you guys bond.
[00:07:54.197](laughs)
[00:07:55.030]But like, I love them so I have this set time
[00:07:59.330]that my mom every night, and that's 11:30 my time
[00:08:04.220]and then 9:30 her time,
[00:08:07.300]but it gives me time to like actually study
[00:08:10.410]and also hang out with my friends
[00:08:11.730]if I'm hanging out with my friends.
[00:08:14.540]However, last night she called me at 12:45 a.m.
[00:08:17.490]and I'm like, what are you doing?
[00:08:19.026](laughs)
[00:08:19.859]This is not our right scheduled time.
[00:08:22.000]But, yeah, so I don't know, I kinda just like
[00:08:25.170]set those times with my family,
[00:08:27.578]with my sisters and stuff like that
[00:08:30.230]and also try to be there for my friends
[00:08:33.280]and also manage school by like, just setting time,
[00:08:37.790]setting aside time and planning and yeah.
[00:08:41.560]I will say that the mom phone calls.
[00:08:45.870]My mom is definitely the person who when I'm super stressed
[00:08:49.190]like she will just leave me alone
[00:08:50.880]and she knows what I'll call her when I've got time
[00:08:53.100]and that's something that kind of transitions
[00:08:55.810]throughout law school like what what the busy times are,
[00:08:58.160]but it's really important to communicate with your family,
[00:09:00.630]like what you've got coming up
[00:09:02.020]because it can get really a lot.
[00:09:05.140]I mean, it has to be overwhelming
[00:09:06.670]when you have people calling or people expecting you
[00:09:09.510]to be doing things or going out,
[00:09:12.970]when you really know that you've got a deadline
[00:09:14.810]that you should be more focused on
[00:09:16.381]and so I think that just like, just tell them and they will,
[00:09:19.470]I mean, hopefully respect that.
[00:09:21.100]But I think that the more you communicate about,
[00:09:23.210]they just wanna know what you're doing and like,
[00:09:24.890]so if you tell them, hey, I've got a brief due,
[00:09:26.910]I really need to focus on this for the next week,
[00:09:30.250]I think that that's the best way to handle family
[00:09:32.160]outside of law school.
[00:09:33.050]They don't know what it's all about.
[00:09:36.205]And I think as you can see,
[00:09:38.270]we all have different ways of coping.
[00:09:40.220]I personally didn't understand time management
[00:09:43.230]until at least the end of the first semester,
[00:09:45.220]because you're thrown into a scenario
[00:09:46.690]where it's completely different from undergrad.
[00:09:48.790]It's completely different
[00:09:49.680]from anything you've learned before,
[00:09:51.360]and it doesn't matter your background, history,
[00:09:53.360]political science, biology, you're gonna be coming
[00:09:56.550]and learning new things.
[00:09:57.730]So, taking that time to understand
[00:10:00.420]that you're gonna be uncomfortable for a while
[00:10:02.100]I think is most important.
[00:10:04.290]Sure, right.
[00:10:05.123]Are you guys library people?
[00:10:06.270]Do you like to spend time at home
[00:10:07.810]or in the library studying?
[00:10:09.551]I could not possibly study in the library.
[00:10:12.400]Whenever I give tours at the law school
[00:10:14.090]I always talk about how I'm actually the person that,
[00:10:17.755]like I'm pretty much banned from the reading room,
[00:10:19.913]I think I breathe too heavy.
[00:10:21.448](laughs)
[00:10:22.780]So, I'm the person that if anyone's talking,
[00:10:25.730]I can like automatically pick up on the sound
[00:10:28.360]and I will start joining the conversation
[00:10:30.750]or just totally get off topic and it's weird
[00:10:33.760]that I can study at my house better but my 2L clerkship,
[00:10:37.570]I had like an actual office
[00:10:38.920]and so I started working at a desk,
[00:10:40.300]and now it's getting really hard to study at home
[00:10:43.110]because I'm actually getting more used to studying
[00:10:45.600]at a desk or working at a desk during the day.
[00:10:47.930]So, the clinic has a wonderful office space
[00:10:50.390]and that's kind of been my home all third year,
[00:10:53.000]is just in the clinic all the time and that's been amazing.
[00:10:56.990]But now I think I'm gonna have to like rethink
[00:10:58.750]about my house set up,
[00:11:01.920]because I think I'm gonna need to find a space or a desk.
[00:11:04.534](chuckles)
[00:11:06.640]Everybody's different, go ahead.
[00:11:07.920]I enjoy studying in the library.
[00:11:11.200]Like I said, I like interacting with people.
[00:11:13.120]That's one of my big part of who I am is being about people
[00:11:19.820]and talking to people and interacting with people.
[00:11:22.260]So I actually have a standing bookshelf
[00:11:24.810]in the back of the library that I've pushed up that
[00:11:27.360]and I will talk to anybody who comes by.
[00:11:30.285](laughs)
[00:11:31.460]It's also helped me though to kind of develop relationships
[00:11:34.600]with some of like the research librarians.
[00:11:36.910]So when I have any kind of issues with research
[00:11:39.680]or writing papers and that kind of stuff,
[00:11:42.160]I always know right where I can go to,
[00:11:43.890]and I've already kind of built that rapport
[00:11:45.620]so it's not as intimidating as just going into their office
[00:11:49.830]and being like, "Hey, I need help!"
[00:11:51.286](laughs)
[00:11:52.860]So, that's my way of setting, I really like the library.
[00:11:57.660]I do not study at the library.
[00:11:59.340]I do not even study.
[00:12:00.870]I try my hardest to study at school,
[00:12:02.850]but then I see people passing by, I'm like,
[00:12:04.717]"Hey girl what's up?
[00:12:06.157]"How's your day going?
[00:12:07.337]"How are you?"
[00:12:08.570]And then we go into like, an hour long conversations
[00:12:10.960]and I'm like, oh yeah,
[00:12:12.480]I probably need to get this work done.
[00:12:15.740]So I just study at home.
[00:12:19.340]Just because like, I'm a people's person also.
[00:12:23.030]So, I get it, but I would not, I like,
[00:12:26.860]once I'm distracted, it's all over.
[00:12:28.810]It's a wrap, it's done.
[00:12:30.440]I'm not getting anything finished like,
[00:12:32.801]I'm gonna have to go home and just spend all night
[00:12:36.170]just studying so, I do not.
[00:12:40.110]I don't study in the library.
[00:12:42.475]I mean that you're like shot off in the library, that is me.
[00:12:46.470]So, yeah.
[00:12:47.360]That's the nice thing about Nebraska law,
[00:12:49.190]though is that everyone like it's so friendly
[00:12:51.830]that people really do wanna talk,
[00:12:53.210]and they wanna talk about what assignments are going on
[00:12:55.440]or what just happened in class or you know,
[00:12:57.420]once you get into practicing and that kind of stuff
[00:12:59.870]they want about what you're doing at work,
[00:13:01.250]or you know, in the clinic.
[00:13:03.060]And everyone's just so eager to learn from each other,
[00:13:05.730]that it can actually it leads to distractions
[00:13:08.190]but it's also nice because then you could learn something
[00:13:11.120]about what someone else is doing
[00:13:12.680]that's, might not have heard about before.
[00:13:15.180]It's great.
[00:13:16.013]Well that's one of the things that I love about Nebraska
[00:13:18.240]is the fact that it's such a collaborative environment.
[00:13:21.450]Like if you have a problem, you can go to any other student
[00:13:25.260]in your class and ask them about it and work through it
[00:13:29.950]with them and they're always glad to help.
[00:13:32.410]I've never had somebody say, "No, I'm not gonna help you."
[00:13:35.930]Or try to hide part of an answer or something.
[00:13:39.860]I know some other places they get a little bit competitive
[00:13:42.580]but I've never felt that here.
[00:13:44.380]You just stole my next question.
[00:13:45.410]Now, my next question is gonna be
[00:13:47.820]explain the environment, the culture between students,
[00:13:50.870]faculty, staff, professors.
[00:13:54.180]You already hit it a little bit but if you guys wanna talk
[00:13:56.720]about the culture, how you feel, interacting with,
[00:13:59.590]is it collaborative, is it competitive,
[00:14:01.350]how your experience has been.
[00:14:03.270]So I think, you know, with any law school
[00:14:06.220]where you're vying for a job when you graduate,
[00:14:09.114]there's an inherent, you know, competitive nature to it.
[00:14:13.779]So, you'll see that you know, as you go throughout,
[00:14:18.160]but as far as day-to-day stuff, you know, assignments,
[00:14:21.290]final exams, you're going to have those study groups,
[00:14:23.610]you're going to have that time together
[00:14:25.640]where you guys can work on subjects you don't understand.
[00:14:29.640]That's the benefit of your 1L year is that the majority,
[00:14:32.150]you will have all of your classes
[00:14:33.713]with the entirety of your 1L class.
[00:14:37.230]So you'll get to know basically everybody.
[00:14:38.970]You'll know everybody's names, you'll also know who's better
[00:14:41.220]at a topic than you are,
[00:14:42.380]and they're always good people to ask.
[00:14:44.094]Also the great benefit is that our professors
[00:14:48.210]have their offices on campus, right in the library
[00:14:51.470]or around the building, so they're there
[00:14:53.840]to hold on open office hours to be available by email,
[00:14:57.330]special meetings, and so they're not looking to you
[00:15:01.170]to understand it just from the reading or from the lecture.
[00:15:03.580]They understand that there's gonna be challenges
[00:15:05.130]going forward.
[00:15:06.060]So as you as you go throughout the process,
[00:15:07.930]will there be competition?
[00:15:09.500]Of course, there are competitions you compete in,
[00:15:11.850]where you're trying to do better.
[00:15:13.229]There's competitions where you're representing Nebraska Law
[00:15:15.920]against other law schools that aren't as good.
[00:15:18.920]So, you know, you just take the time to, you know,
[00:15:23.260]find where you belong and find who really is there to help
[00:15:27.720]and trust me, there are a lot of people ready to help.
[00:15:31.490]Yeah, I think that the law school culture at Nebraska,
[00:15:34.770]I mean, obviously, Nebraska is the law school I chose.
[00:15:38.200]So, I think that it's unlike any of the other schools
[00:15:42.330]that I even talked to.
[00:15:44.400]I mean, some of the other schools that I was looking at,
[00:15:48.170]you know, they were talking about picking people
[00:15:51.020]for like certain just like, random qualities
[00:15:54.260]and I think that Nebraska looks at the whole person.
[00:15:58.420]I always kind of wonder what people would think
[00:16:00.100]when I read my personal statement,
[00:16:02.380]it makes me kind of chuckle just even thinking about it.
[00:16:04.680]But I think that they look at you as a whole person
[00:16:08.600]and everyone comes in expecting, you know like,
[00:16:11.470]what did you do, or where did you come from,
[00:16:13.130]because law school is unlike any other environment
[00:16:15.680]where you've got people from all different majors.
[00:16:18.670]And, you know, most other Master's programs
[00:16:21.180]or doctorate programs, everyone has very similar undergrads,
[00:16:24.030]everyone came from, you know, similar expectations,
[00:16:27.680]at least through the years that they've gone through school
[00:16:29.720]so far and law school is totally different.
[00:16:32.040]And so I think that recognizing that like,
[00:16:34.090]my best friend in law school is someone that like we agree,
[00:16:36.740]if we had met in high school or college,
[00:16:38.530]we probably wouldn't be friends.
[00:16:40.160]And it's just a weird thing
[00:16:41.630]but, we probably wouldn't even run into each other
[00:16:45.460]on a college campus.
[00:16:46.380]And here, I mean, it's a collaborative environment.
[00:16:49.390]We're all working together and you ask someone
[00:16:51.290]for class notes, people are gonna say yes.
[00:16:53.529]I mean it's not where people are gonna tear out
[00:16:55.620]pages of books in the library.
[00:16:57.380]I mean, also everything's online now so, there's that.
[00:17:00.850]But, I mean, it's just,
[00:17:03.390]you can talk to any professor all the time.
[00:17:05.790]I mean like, there's professors
[00:17:07.700]that I'm inviting to my wedding.
[00:17:09.000]So it's just one of those things where, I mean,
[00:17:12.374]these are gonna be relationships that last a lifetime.
[00:17:16.980]I, did you wanna...
[00:17:19.140]No, you dive ahead.
[00:17:20.510]Oh, I was just gonna say, we'd have to agree
[00:17:23.100]that the environment is very collaborative.
[00:17:25.770]We're all working toward one thing and that's the JD.
[00:17:29.220](laughs)
[00:17:31.220]But also I feel like student orgs help
[00:17:34.370]a lot with that as well.
[00:17:36.850]I know that my first year I was having,
[00:17:40.600]I was like, I don't know where my who my people are,
[00:17:42.940]like, I haven't found my people,
[00:17:44.804]but I joined the multicultural legal society
[00:17:48.940]and I felt like immediately I was loved.
[00:17:52.540]I mean not saying that I wasn't, but like,
[00:17:55.900]I don't know it's different when you have like your people,
[00:17:58.800]I guess you can say like, your homies, your friends,
[00:18:01.410]your, the ones that will be there for you
[00:18:04.000]through the good and the bad, not just the good,
[00:18:06.010]not just, you know when you're happy,
[00:18:08.580]but also when you're sad and you're going through it.
[00:18:10.789]Because law school can be stressful and if you know,
[00:18:14.640]if you don't have a supportive environment,
[00:18:16.500]it can be even more stressful but like I feel like Nebraska
[00:18:20.440]does a really good job,
[00:18:23.580]creating that like supportive environment
[00:18:26.040]and like I'm very grateful for that.
[00:18:27.730]Like, multicultural legal society and like,
[00:18:31.000]also like admissions and the dean's office.
[00:18:32.770]Like they're all there for every student,
[00:18:35.050]not just me, but every student.
[00:18:37.125]Like if you're struggling, if you just have a problem,
[00:18:40.170]if you just wanna talk like, they'll be there,
[00:18:42.360]they'll be like, they'll cry with you,
[00:18:44.850]they'll like laugh with you, they'll make you feel loved
[00:18:47.750]and like if you don't have a family out here
[00:18:49.820]like that goes a long way.
[00:18:52.940]The law school, the other students in law school
[00:18:55.980]especially in the 1L year,
[00:18:57.010]their first semester is really hard.
[00:19:00.320]And so those friendships and relationships you build
[00:19:03.160]with the other 1L's, those are the people
[00:19:05.890]that they're some of the only people
[00:19:08.560]that can truly understand
[00:19:10.280]what you're going through in that moment.
[00:19:12.950]And so that's what I love is the fact that
[00:19:15.930]as I'm building relationships with people yeah,
[00:19:18.200]and like Ari said, in the good times,
[00:19:20.340]they're there for you but in the bad times
[00:19:22.070]when you're having a terrible week and you're behind
[00:19:24.750]and everything and you feel like you're six feet
[00:19:26.460]under the water, you can go talk to your friend,
[00:19:29.390]another student there, and they understand completely
[00:19:33.020]what you're feeling, which is always really nice.
[00:19:35.900]And I love also the diversity of students
[00:19:39.760]and diversity of viewpoints.
[00:19:42.470]Some of my closest friends here at law school are people
[00:19:45.510]that believe exactly opposite of me, and I love that.
[00:19:49.420]I love that the, I love the tough debates and talking
[00:19:54.990]through things and learning other people's viewpoint.
[00:19:57.600]That's something I really loved about law school.
[00:20:01.110]So law school is all about those debates.
[00:20:03.162](laughs)
[00:20:04.870]So you kind of hit on it but law school
[00:20:07.640]is a three-year process
[00:20:08.700]and you guys are all in different stages.
[00:20:11.530]How do you feel like you've grown through those three years,
[00:20:14.590]or if it's your first year,
[00:20:16.090]how do you feel like you've grown so far
[00:20:18.610]through the process, to this point?
[00:20:21.340]You know, I think each person is gonna grow differently.
[00:20:25.550]I was slow getting to understand the full concept
[00:20:30.430]of what law school is, and what I needed to do
[00:20:32.880]to prepare for a career in this field.
[00:20:35.670]I don't think that until really the end of my first year,
[00:20:39.080]I ultimately understood what I was gonna have to do,
[00:20:42.513]but again, that's what the involvement is for.
[00:20:46.930]You're gonna learn how to study,
[00:20:48.820]you're gonna learn how to write like a lawyer
[00:20:50.590]and think like a lawyer but in doing so,
[00:20:54.300]you're gonna have to find a place
[00:20:55.680]where you're comfortable doing that.
[00:20:57.770]And I think too many people in their first semester
[00:20:59.960]try to push to be like others,
[00:21:01.800]when in all reality that's not gonna breed any success.
[00:21:05.070]So, I think it wasn't into my, then in my first year
[00:21:08.200]that I truly understood what it was to be a lawyer
[00:21:11.480]and now it's not only playing maybe a little catch up
[00:21:14.740]to take better notes and, you know, prepare better for tests
[00:21:18.890]and those types of things, but it's also getting involved
[00:21:21.790]in the community doing pro bono work,
[00:21:24.130]finding jobs out there, you know,
[00:21:27.230]whether it's in the community as, you know,
[00:21:30.560]an advocate doing public policy,
[00:21:33.160]or if it's in a big law firm.
[00:21:35.240]There's a diversity of opportunities
[00:21:37.660]for students in Nebraska law, and that is what's comforting
[00:21:41.210]knowing that you don't necessarily have to come
[00:21:43.760]to Nebraska law to work in a giant law firm.
[00:21:47.000]You can do many things once you leave,
[00:21:49.320]and the process along the way will help you define
[00:21:52.440]and refine what you wanna do.
[00:21:55.559]Well, I think that starting out, I mean, I knew,
[00:21:59.538]though lawyers that I knew were the two legal professors
[00:22:02.930]I had in undergrad,
[00:22:04.210]and I don't have any lawyers in my family.
[00:22:06.820]So, the biggest change that I felt first year was really
[00:22:10.510]like, all the things that people who know lawyers
[00:22:14.220]and have lawyers around, sort of already knew.
[00:22:16.380]Like when we got our first brief assignment,
[00:22:18.810]I had never read a brief before.
[00:22:21.080]And I was pulling up briefs on Westlaw to try to figure out
[00:22:24.640]what it was I was actually supposed to be writing,
[00:22:26.640]and so I think that that is something
[00:22:28.190]that if I had gone back, I would have tried to get
[00:22:31.140]a little bit more of before coming into law school.
[00:22:34.190]But so, you know, that's some of the stuff
[00:22:36.050]that I felt like I was really growing through 1L year
[00:22:38.070]and then working on, you know, interviewing tips
[00:22:41.090]and trying to get that first clerkship,
[00:22:42.760]I ended up clicking for a judge my first summer
[00:22:44.961]and then, like 2L year I just like took off.
[00:22:48.200]I was in leadership in student organizations,
[00:22:51.810]and I was preparing to get my next job
[00:22:54.550]'cause like the timeline of law school jobs
[00:22:57.070]is so different than what you'd think of in undergrad.
[00:22:59.970]And I mean, I went to a career fair in Washington DC,
[00:23:06.040]my second year, and I took 200 copies of my resume.
[00:23:09.090]I was not leaving without a job.
[00:23:10.770]And I interviewed I mean, I sent my resume to everybody.
[00:23:13.810]I talked to people who are waiting in line at the airport
[00:23:16.460]for the hotel shuttle,
[00:23:17.300]and I saw like a little scales of justice on their bag.
[00:23:19.560]I mean, you should be willing to put yourself out there
[00:23:21.581]and I think that that's really the best way that I've grown
[00:23:23.910]through law school as like, it's almost like,
[00:23:26.270]you know, with my tenacity that is increasing
[00:23:28.820]and now like, I'm happy to report
[00:23:30.780]that I've got a post-grad job lined up and I'm ready to hit.
[00:23:34.800]Like, I'm just ready to start.
[00:23:36.610]So, I think that one of the things you need to be willing
[00:23:39.140]to do is just go for it.
[00:23:44.193]That's one of the things that I've grown the most
[00:23:45.760]in the past, eight months or so, is,
[00:23:48.910]number one just learning how to study for law school.
[00:23:53.390]Undergrad, I never really had to take notes
[00:23:56.270]or things like that.
[00:23:57.103]It just kind of came naturally to me
[00:23:58.600]and I never really struggled.
[00:24:00.530]Two weeks into law school, I realized,
[00:24:01.937]"Oh my!
[00:24:02.770]"This is very different"
[00:24:04.142](laughs)
[00:24:04.975]And so I had to learn how to take notes while I'm reading
[00:24:08.110]and how to take notes in class
[00:24:09.430]and then how to synthesize that into an outline.
[00:24:13.562]And then, so that was one area that I definitely grew in.
[00:24:18.500]And then the other one that I've really been leaning into
[00:24:21.670]is building, getting more confident in connecting
[00:24:27.830]and building relationships with people.
[00:24:29.970]I love people, and I love interacting with people,
[00:24:32.460]but I've always been afraid of that initial,
[00:24:35.412]starting a conversation with somebody you don't know.
[00:24:38.520]And so that's something that I've really grown in,
[00:24:40.670]the last year or so.
[00:24:42.490]Some tenacity is good.
[00:24:43.760]Yeah, it just, you just get more confident
[00:24:46.270]and as you do it more, then you realize,
[00:24:49.117]"Oh, this isn't so bad."
[00:24:50.860]So when you're doing it with like another student,
[00:24:53.530]there's a lot less pressure.
[00:24:54.920]So then by the time that it comes to interviews
[00:24:57.280]or like some of these open law firm, open houses
[00:25:00.410]and stuff that we did last semester,
[00:25:01.680]at the beginning of the semester, you have the confidence
[00:25:05.280]then when you're around 15 or 20 lawyers
[00:25:07.950]to walk up and be like, "Hey, my name is Josiah Nelson."
[00:25:10.310]And then just start a conversation with them.
[00:25:12.894]And that's something that I've definitely grown in a lot.
[00:25:17.220]And it's been a lot of fun.
[00:25:20.530]Yeah, very similar to what kind of what Julia said.
[00:25:22.980]Yeah.
[00:25:26.040]You probably know what questions coming next.
[00:25:27.920]This is one of my favorite questions to ask.
[00:25:30.100]And we want this to be a good transparent,
[00:25:33.930]perspective for students that will be watching this.
[00:25:38.150]Maybe give me your favorite thing about Nebraska law,
[00:25:40.460]and then one thing that you would change.
[00:25:45.580]Personally, I think I,
[00:25:48.670]all I did in undergrad was write papers.
[00:25:50.680]I thought that was going to prepare me for law school.
[00:25:53.530]I was history and political science,
[00:25:55.141]and that was kind of thrown out the window.
[00:25:58.010]So my, as you're learning how to write like a lawyer,
[00:26:01.090]you're also learning how to research case law,
[00:26:03.650]to understand statutes, to interpret those,
[00:26:06.960]and it's a kind of a slow burn over time.
[00:26:11.310]I was thrown into that, and so I don't know if it was me
[00:26:16.440]or the law school or what,
[00:26:17.960]but I think there's an opportunity to, you know,
[00:26:21.980]in the months leading up to actually attending law school,
[00:26:25.660]you wanna take the time to relax and everything,
[00:26:28.180]but I feel like there was some things
[00:26:29.910]I might, maybe could have done while preparing.
[00:26:33.340]Now that could be that I just didn't know what I was doing
[00:26:36.810]and I didn't start off, have a great start to law school,
[00:26:39.630]but I think that was within the learning curve.
[00:26:43.200]So, there is a transition that not all students get,
[00:26:47.770]and that transition is helpful to some,
[00:26:51.474]and maybe it's different for others
[00:26:54.100]who aren't as prepared or don't expect,
[00:26:57.840]necessarily expect what law school is gonna be about.
[00:27:01.510]The same time, things I love about the law school
[00:27:04.220]is the networks you create.
[00:27:06.440]The networks that the law school has outside,
[00:27:09.060]whether it's through alumni who attended the university,
[00:27:12.300]whether you know, we have alumni that work for the NBA
[00:27:15.470]and for amazing the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation,
[00:27:18.860]we have an amazing group of people that the law school
[00:27:21.530]will connect us through, and as your three years
[00:27:25.780]of law school go on, those are the connections
[00:27:28.000]that will not only help you for day-to-day life
[00:27:30.810]and asking questions of what a lawyer does,
[00:27:33.450]but also potential employment or potentially,
[00:27:37.082]you know, research opportunities.
[00:27:39.270]There's a wide variety of things you can do
[00:27:41.100]as your three years go on because of those connections
[00:27:45.430]that Nebraska law continues to have
[00:27:47.866]because it is such a great institution.
[00:27:51.420]I will say that my favorite thing about law school so far
[00:27:54.900]is actually the clinic which happens in your third year
[00:27:58.560]and the Children's Justice Clinic is just amazing.
[00:28:00.880]It's something that I really went into it
[00:28:02.960]because I wanted just, like general,
[00:28:05.420]I wanted to improve my courtroom advocacy,
[00:28:07.610]and I wanted, you know, to work on my writing skills
[00:28:09.730]but it was very like, general.
[00:28:12.410]And it's been such an amazing experience.
[00:28:15.530]I can't say enough good things about the clinics at UNL.
[00:28:19.700]I think that the amount of one-on-one time
[00:28:22.730]that I've had with a professor is like,
[00:28:26.010]I could not expect anything more.
[00:28:28.490]I've had, I've been working so much on my writing,
[00:28:31.240]I've been working so much on courtroom stuff.
[00:28:33.620]I mean, it's just something that like,
[00:28:36.211]one of the things that I'd wished I had done
[00:28:39.050]more of when I was, you know, a one hour or two hours
[00:28:43.000]talking with professors and like really trying to figure out
[00:28:47.200]what I could be doing better
[00:28:48.340]'cause you get a lot of feedback right at the end
[00:28:50.570]and then by the time you actually get
[00:28:52.280]to come back to school, you know, break comes back
[00:28:54.340]and you're getting your papers back
[00:28:55.900]or getting your test back, some of that feels so,
[00:28:57.967]like you've already moved past that,
[00:29:00.900]you're ready for the next semester
[00:29:02.830]and so it can be hard to like think about
[00:29:04.530]what were you struggling with last semester
[00:29:07.240]and what could you do to improve?
[00:29:09.190]So I think that, one taking advantage of that time
[00:29:12.512]that you actually do have to go talk to your professors
[00:29:15.520]and figure out you know what, you know, my torts exam,
[00:29:18.730]I was way too into the weeds.
[00:29:20.840]I was way too stuck in the little details
[00:29:22.960]that didn't actually matter.
[00:29:24.560]And I think that if I had taken that opportunity
[00:29:28.370]to go speak to all these amazing professors,
[00:29:30.144]it would have just benefited me and now in the clinic,
[00:29:33.200]I have that opportunity all the time
[00:29:35.190]and I'm taking full advantage of it.
[00:29:36.870]And so I think that 3L year they know,
[00:29:39.940]they say that 3L year's supposed to be boring,
[00:29:42.640]your first year they scare you,
[00:29:43.473]the second year they work you that.
[00:29:45.440]That thing really, I mean, 1L year is intense, for sure.
[00:29:50.410]And 2L year you're like hitting,
[00:29:52.600]I think that that's where you're like really figuring out
[00:29:54.950]who you are as a law student.
[00:29:56.430]But 3L year like it is not boring.
[00:29:58.510]You are like on your way, and you can feel it.
[00:30:01.210]And I just think that that's like the best part
[00:30:03.220]of law school and the clinic.
[00:30:05.870]I can't, like I said, I can't say enough about it.
[00:30:07.830]You have to do a clinic.
[00:30:11.910]I think my favorite part of that law school
[00:30:14.500]is how challenging it is.
[00:30:18.240]I think like you're in a room full of Einsteins basically.
[00:30:23.640]They are, so everyone's so smart
[00:30:25.250]and you come from like undergrad and you're like,
[00:30:27.457]"Yeah, I'm so smart."
[00:30:29.327](giggles)
[00:30:30.212]It's like, everybody here is so smart.
[00:30:32.920]And I think that's what's, like that's the best thing
[00:30:35.780]about law school is that every year
[00:30:37.640]in a room full of like very intelligent people,
[00:30:41.130]and you can learn about different things and man,
[00:30:45.680]my friends are so super like honestly,
[00:30:47.410]my friends are so smart.
[00:30:48.710](laughs)
[00:30:49.543]I learned something new every single day.
[00:30:51.719]But also it's annoying when,
[00:30:53.490]'cause my grammar is off sometimes.
[00:30:55.990]I use a lot of slang.
[00:30:57.320]And so they're like, "Oh my gosh,
[00:30:59.077]"that doesn't even make sense."
[00:31:00.130]And I'm like, "You know what,
[00:31:01.227]"just go on and be, go over there.
[00:31:04.757]"I don't need your opinion."
[00:31:06.880]But I think that's the most exciting part about law school
[00:31:10.510]is that you're able to learn from so many different people
[00:31:13.960]like, I'm from California, I'm from a big city.
[00:31:16.460]I'm from LA so, you know, the traffic's heavy,
[00:31:20.040]blah, blah, blah, but like, you come, I got like,
[00:31:22.830]I'm here now and like, everybody comes from my towns
[00:31:25.510]of like 3,000 or towns of like 1,000 or whatever
[00:31:30.040]and I'm like, "Oh my God, tell me about your life.
[00:31:33.526]"I was how did you grow up there, are you bored?"
[00:31:36.050]And I'm always just like, "No, I hate the city, aren't you?"
[00:31:40.710]Like always just in traffic for two hours.
[00:31:43.340]I'm like, "Yeah, but it's so great."
[00:31:45.113](giggles)
[00:31:46.350]But yeah, I just think that's the most exciting part
[00:31:48.510]about law school it's just, you know,
[00:31:50.340]getting different viewpoints and just,
[00:31:52.580]the intelligence is amazing.
[00:31:55.000]It is 9:00 a.m. and that is the energy
[00:31:56.980]that she brings all the time.
[00:32:00.120]Excellent.
[00:32:00.953]This is the energy I bring.
[00:32:02.143](group laughs)
[00:32:03.540]I just love the people is by far
[00:32:05.760]my favorite thing about law school.
[00:32:08.370]I love building the relationships with people.
[00:32:14.030]But whether it'll be faculty, whether it'll be students,
[00:32:16.650]everybody is wonderful to deal with, to talk with,
[00:32:22.600]and I've had so many challenging discussions with people,
[00:32:28.660]which is, it's fun, I've really enjoyed that.
[00:32:32.337]But one of the hardest things is just the amount of work,
[00:32:37.410]especially in the first semester.
[00:32:40.450]I mean, I was working 60 or 70 hours of studying every week
[00:32:43.390]to try and stay up and it's really rough.
[00:32:47.070]But then you get through to second semester
[00:32:49.280]and it's like, "Oh!"
[00:32:50.931](laughs)
[00:32:52.207]"This is what it's like to have
[00:32:53.667]"a couple hours of free time a week."
[00:32:55.814](laughs)
[00:32:57.080]So that was one of the most difficult things
[00:32:59.370]but through it all you have to remember,
[00:33:01.340]at the end of the three years, you're gonna have JD.
[00:33:06.220]And that's ultimately what you're going for.
[00:33:08.670]So for me, that's something I've continued to keep
[00:33:11.400]in the back of my mind throughout all the hard work
[00:33:14.270]is, at the end of three years, I will graduate,
[00:33:17.830]and I will be a lawyer.
[00:33:21.540]And so for me, it's all about balancing the relationships.
[00:33:26.570]So this is gonna be watched by students
[00:33:29.470]that are planning on going to law school,
[00:33:31.890]hopefully Nebraska law.
[00:33:35.510]Is there something that you would have liked to know
[00:33:38.510]before you came into law school?
[00:33:40.420]Maybe you guys have kind of already hit on it.
[00:33:42.420]Some things that you wish you would have known
[00:33:43.810]before you transitioned, made that transition from undergrad
[00:33:47.080]to law school that you could prepare for maybe?
[00:33:50.310]Yeah, I think I already kind of touched on this.
[00:33:52.680]I had not seen a brief before,
[00:33:55.370]and so something I would have done
[00:33:57.420]was just to talk to lawyers about,
[00:34:00.220]like people who've already been through law school
[00:34:02.330]or talk more to law students when I have the opportunity to,
[00:34:05.260]you know, at different events,
[00:34:07.130]but I would have wanted to know, like, what assignments,
[00:34:10.770]what big things are actually going to come up.
[00:34:12.950]I think that when I started that assignment,
[00:34:14.960]I was so focused on starting my research
[00:34:17.260]and figuring out what my position was
[00:34:19.180]that I kind of missed the opportunity
[00:34:21.950]to like actually just digest what the actual document
[00:34:24.820]looked like and what parts it had.
[00:34:26.650]And so I kind of struggled
[00:34:29.380]through that whole writing process
[00:34:30.690]because I really didn't feel like I knew
[00:34:33.050]what I was actually aiming for,
[00:34:35.540]but that's because I was so getting into all the other bits
[00:34:38.590]and pieces of it, and it was a lot to just kind of take in.
[00:34:41.740]And so, I think that the more that you can learn about
[00:34:44.800]just like the general practices of law,
[00:34:46.830]you know, go to the courthouse and just go sit
[00:34:49.620]and talk to lawyers or introduce yourself.
[00:34:51.780]I mean, you will learn so much by just talking to the people
[00:34:54.600]that you're already around.
[00:34:56.620]And I think that kind of like Brian said,
[00:34:59.270]studying is hard, and I, undergrad was totally different.
[00:35:07.490]I mean, my last, I was a business major
[00:35:09.210]and my last two years were pretty much
[00:35:11.250]exclusively giving major presentations
[00:35:13.280]that were a semester-long projects.
[00:35:14.890]I didn't take a lot of tests,
[00:35:16.470]I didn't write a lot of papers,
[00:35:18.070]and my writing wasn't, I did not get feedback on my writing
[00:35:22.630]in undergrad the way that I do now.
[00:35:24.500]It's very different.
[00:35:25.730]I really thought I came into the law school thinking that,
[00:35:28.180]you know, I'm so smart (chuckles) and that I, you know,
[00:35:33.020]had done so well in undergrad
[00:35:34.190]that this was gonna be just like,
[00:35:35.480]it's gonna be challenging, but I didn't really realize
[00:35:38.810]how much I would learn.
[00:35:39.830]And I think that that is something that one don't, you know,
[00:35:42.850]come in with some humility.
[00:35:44.297](giggles)
[00:35:45.130]That's definitely gonna help you in the long run.
[00:35:46.940]And also, you know, focus on all the feedback
[00:35:50.130]that you can get, like how you're receiving feedback
[00:35:52.780]is way more important than necessarily like how it comes.
[00:35:55.620]Maybe you don't like how the feedback comes,
[00:35:57.510]maybe it seems too negative or you know,
[00:35:59.710]you have a lot of things that you can work on
[00:36:01.910]and you wanna focus on the positive things
[00:36:03.530]but like how you're receiving that, is gonna be way more
[00:36:06.790]about how you learn and what comes,
[00:36:09.310]what you actually get out of it.
[00:36:10.770]And so I think that that is something that I would focus on
[00:36:14.460]is how I'm digesting the feedback,
[00:36:16.480]and then what information that I can get
[00:36:19.110]at the beginning of an assignment
[00:36:20.560]before I actually dive into it.
[00:36:24.330]I would also say just take some time for yourself.
[00:36:27.170]You know, I think it's important that, you know,
[00:36:30.780]whether it's making little money, extra weekend money,
[00:36:33.760]whether it's, you know, spending more time with the family,
[00:36:36.780]you know, prepping for a wedding
[00:36:38.950]or like me just trying to eat vegetables, you know.
[00:36:41.310]I think there's a balance you have to strike
[00:36:43.338]that is important and because you are gonna be thrown
[00:36:47.110]into a new arena, you want to make sure
[00:36:49.900]that you're enjoying the things that got you to law school
[00:36:52.580]in the first place.
[00:36:53.820]And then going forward, you wanna make sure
[00:36:56.070]that when you have the opportunity,
[00:36:57.860]you keep taking advantage of those.
[00:37:00.370]I will add on to that you NFL football,
[00:37:04.050]I mean, like I am not a football person.
[00:37:05.540]I went probably went to like four games in undergrad,
[00:37:07.900]but I bought season tickets for student passes,
[00:37:10.690]second year and third year and it is unlike anything else.
[00:37:14.290]I mean game day in Lincoln,
[00:37:15.737]they broadcast the football games in the grocery stores.
[00:37:19.540]Like it is just something
[00:37:21.210]that I had never even thought of before,
[00:37:23.430]and being in the student section,
[00:37:25.650]I mean you you have to do it.
[00:37:28.250]It is unlike anything else.
[00:37:30.320]You release the red balloons and everyone's cheering
[00:37:33.370]and everyone's in red and it is the most exciting thing
[00:37:36.658]and even if you, I honestly have like zero idea
[00:37:41.790]what happened during any of those games.
[00:37:43.280]But you know, like, it is just this amazing environment
[00:37:47.320]and the whole town of Lincoln is like that on game days.
[00:37:50.170]I mean everyone is excited, everyone is your best friend
[00:37:53.990]and go downtown.
[00:37:55.390]Even if you don't go to the football games,
[00:37:56.560]just go and be a part of the community
[00:37:59.020]because it is, there's nothing like it.
[00:38:03.070]Yes, imagine how much fun it will be if the team wins?
[00:38:06.166](group laughs)
[00:38:09.879]That'll be even better.
[00:38:11.480]But, she's right, she's right.
[00:38:15.980]So, last thing I wanted to do as we close,
[00:38:19.658]maybe do some rapid fire questions
[00:38:21.519]about your favorite places in Lincoln,
[00:38:24.850]maybe students that haven't been here before,
[00:38:27.350]to get a perspective of what you guys do to relax,
[00:38:29.790]have fun things like that.
[00:38:30.980]So I'm just gonna rapid fire some of your favorite places
[00:38:34.230]and just give me the first thing that comes to mind.
[00:38:36.600]So, first one I'm gonna do is favorite place.
[00:38:41.010]Let's go favorite coffee shop.
[00:38:43.690]I like Cool TV.
[00:38:44.740]It's right across Miss Campus.
[00:38:46.730]They've also got some chocolate roots and they've got food,
[00:38:50.150]and so I'm happy.
[00:38:51.300]Yep, right across the street.
[00:38:52.370]Right across the street.
[00:38:53.830]Mo Java is good.
[00:38:55.538](laughs)
[00:38:57.035]I'm not a coffee drinker.
[00:38:58.340]So I like the soda founts in the law school.
[00:39:01.620](laughs)
[00:39:02.590]I have to get right here.
[00:39:04.480]I would have been to Mo Java several times.
[00:39:07.130]They have really good coffee and that's coming from somebody
[00:39:09.770]who really likes good coffee.
[00:39:13.530]I've not been there.
[00:39:14.363]It's, yeah, good coffee and it's a nice quiet place
[00:39:16.270]to study too or go and talk.
[00:39:17.650]I've gone, just had coffee with other law students
[00:39:20.800]a couple of times.
[00:39:21.870]Give thanks to yourself.
[00:39:22.780]Good breakfast bagels as well.
[00:39:24.498]Yeah.
[00:39:25.331]Especially for AI.
[00:39:26.310]I have no excuse for not getting there, I will.
[00:39:29.660]Favorite season, we get all four seasons here in Nebraska.
[00:39:32.220]Do you have a favorite season?
[00:39:34.780]Absolutely.
[00:39:35.889]Fall is, it's beautiful in Lincoln.
[00:39:38.960]I mean everything, all the colors are changing.
[00:39:41.340]Also, I came from undergrad in Wyoming
[00:39:43.740]and I was expecting snow in like September
[00:39:46.810]and people told me it's not gonna snow here
[00:39:48.540]until like December maybe even January and that shocked me.
[00:39:51.690]So there's actually like rains, there's lots of very humid
[00:39:55.314]but the seasons are different
[00:39:57.920]and I love all the thunderstorms, it's so peaceful and yeah.
[00:40:02.360]Fall is beautiful in Lincoln.
[00:40:05.090]Spring, definitely spring.
[00:40:07.320]I love the new life and it comes out in spring.
[00:40:10.470]Although I love all four seasons.
[00:40:12.105]That's cool, that's cool.
[00:40:16.260]Is spring here?
[00:40:17.200]Is it here?
[00:40:18.033]It's all almost. Okay.
[00:40:18.866]Think we got some snow this weekend.
[00:40:22.100]Fall for sure, hands down.
[00:40:25.040]I'm from California and it's always 75 and shunny, sunny.
[00:40:28.630]Not shunny, sunny.
[00:40:30.770]And so fall here is amazing.
[00:40:33.080]It's so beautiful, just the the leaves changing,
[00:40:36.460]like the colors of the leaves there we go.
[00:40:39.677]It's just beautiful, fall.
[00:40:41.811]I'm a winter guy. Oh!
[00:40:43.530]I'm from Colorado.
[00:40:44.530]So snowboarding and stuff.
[00:40:46.640]That's all me, just can't do that here
[00:40:48.700]but can't really go snowboarding.
[00:40:50.870]Not many mountains in Nebraska but I'm all in for the snow.
[00:40:57.340]That's good variety; fall, spring, winter.
[00:41:00.890]Nobody said summer!
[00:41:01.910]I will say that, I mean,
[00:41:04.380]I picked my apartment in a summer.
[00:41:06.240]I came into Lincoln and drove it in my apartment complex
[00:41:09.380]and everything was green and I mean it was like,
[00:41:12.000]so picturesque-like.
[00:41:13.550]Birds are chirping and,
[00:41:15.050]I mean it's the summers here are beautiful.
[00:41:17.840]I hear that, I mean, I've gone back to other states
[00:41:21.440]both of my summers for clerkships
[00:41:22.990]so I hear it gets really hot, but I like it hot.
[00:41:26.260]And there's lots of pools, so it's really nice.
[00:41:28.743](giggles)
[00:41:29.576]And there's air conditioning.
[00:41:30.770]So it's easy to stay out of summer.
[00:41:32.535](group laughs)
[00:41:35.400]Favorite restaurant, favorite place to eat.
[00:41:37.570]Blue Sushi downtown.
[00:41:40.800]If you can find some people who from the law school
[00:41:43.210]who I like to go get sushi,
[00:41:44.747]it's like got a really cool vibe there's a red side
[00:41:48.390]and a blue side and it's, I mean,
[00:41:50.253]it's a great place to hang out.
[00:41:52.340]I've spent lots of time at there
[00:41:54.130]just there bar top reading evidence.
[00:41:56.122](laughs)
[00:41:59.090]I haven't been to the one down here in Lincoln,
[00:42:00.670]but I've been to the one up in Omaha a couple of times
[00:42:02.650]and yeah, I can definitely say
[00:42:03.930]that it's a excellent place to eat.
[00:42:06.070]I also really liked professor lunch brought in,
[00:42:08.486]Ramos's Pizza.
[00:42:10.610]It's probably the best pizza that I've had,
[00:42:12.013]down here in Lincoln.
[00:42:14.850]I like Aromas.
[00:42:19.720]It's an Indian food place and it is amazing.
[00:42:22.700]I'm there like every day.
[00:42:24.838]It hurts my budget, but it's really good.
[00:42:28.442](group laughs)
[00:42:29.275]And I'm a fan of good old bar food with maybe a Brewski
[00:42:32.300]so I like Laszlos and I like Leadbelly.
[00:42:34.720]Leadbelly, big fan.
[00:42:36.340]The name just sounds like I don't wanna eat.
[00:42:38.394](Josiah laughs)
[00:42:39.227]I agree, big fan of Leadbelly.
[00:42:40.590]It sounds like you don't have many choices
[00:42:42.140]for vegetables, Right.
[00:42:43.307]because it's why I like it.
[00:42:44.190]But there are, there are though.
[00:42:45.600]There are. There're there.
[00:42:47.012]Okay, very last one I'm gonna ask you.
[00:42:50.070]How about emergency nap?
[00:42:51.680]If you have to have an emergency nap, where are you going?
[00:42:54.420]Do you have a...?
[00:42:56.606]An emergency nap.
[00:42:57.750]Maybe it's just me.
[00:42:58.990]Okay, I like really, really like to hang out
[00:43:03.030]at the City Union downtown.
[00:43:04.280]I love that the law school is on East Campus
[00:43:06.730]and we're away from the undergrads
[00:43:08.030]because sometimes like, that can be just why,
[00:43:11.010]but, if I am wanting to be around a bunch of people
[00:43:16.620]and hear how life is because they're just talking
[00:43:21.440]all the time, I go to the City Union, I can,
[00:43:24.630]like just sit in a nice red booth.
[00:43:26.150]The union is gorgeous, it's recently remodeled
[00:43:28.660]and it is beautiful.
[00:43:29.493]I know the East Union is just about to open again
[00:43:31.820]and I'm a little hurt
[00:43:34.010]that I don't get to see the East Union.
[00:43:37.160]But, I mean, that space is just really fun
[00:43:41.110]because there are so many different kind of setups
[00:43:44.440]to study at, there's lots of different furniture types.
[00:43:46.870]I mean, like I said, I'm a booth person,
[00:43:48.700]but I could maybe get a nap there.
[00:43:50.550]I'm not normally a napper.
[00:43:52.030]The best maybe a better question is better place to,
[00:43:55.316]best favorite place to relax.
[00:43:56.890]How about that?
[00:43:58.090]The four way in the library, or in the law school
[00:44:01.920]because you catch but I'm terrible,
[00:44:04.290]I'll sit up grab anybody that goes walking by,
[00:44:07.400]for me talking interacting with people
[00:44:09.540]is the best way to destress.
[00:44:12.020]But, if you want, I found that I tend to fall asleep
[00:44:16.250]if I sit in the study rooms.
[00:44:18.510]That's part of the reason why I study at the standing desks
[00:44:21.150]in the back of the library
[00:44:22.080]because I'm standing here there's people going by
[00:44:24.298](laughs) and can't view when I'm studying in privacy.
[00:44:28.390]Okay, so initially when he said favorite
[00:44:31.940]like emergency nap, I was like, I don't nap.
[00:44:35.185](group laughs)
[00:44:36.018]I went last week I took a nap.
[00:44:37.220]I went home and I took a nap.
[00:44:39.080]That nap lasted till 4:30 and I was late to class.
[00:44:41.850]So, no naps for me.
[00:44:43.598]Sorry blankly.
[00:44:45.100]No naps for me.
[00:44:47.660]But my favorite place to relax or my favorite thing to like,
[00:44:53.090]my favorite way to destress is I like taking a drive down,
[00:45:00.415]down the road, I don't know what road it is,
[00:45:03.230]but I just take the road and I just,
[00:45:05.500]I'm surrounded by all the cornfields and like,
[00:45:07.600]like to watch the sunset.
[00:45:09.260]I know lame (giggles) but I really enjoy that
[00:45:12.890]'cause it's just, it brings me peace,
[00:45:15.930]and I also like going to the lake.
[00:45:17.740]So there's a lake like 30 minutes away
[00:45:20.700]and that is really really relaxing.
[00:45:23.680]I really enjoy that.
[00:45:25.820]I miss water.
[00:45:26.653]I'm from the coast so I really miss water
[00:45:30.220]and just seeing the lake and watching the sunset is just,
[00:45:34.240]it's amazing, it warms my heart.
[00:45:36.450]I have to add something on to that
[00:45:38.290]back to the restaurant bit because I didn't think about it
[00:45:41.230]because it's a drive out of Lincoln,
[00:45:43.640]but there's a steakhouse called Round The Bend
[00:45:45.580]in the middle of nowhere.
[00:45:46.750]It's like halfway between Lincoln and Omaha
[00:45:49.480]and it is amazing.
[00:45:51.260]I mean, you cannot get a better steak,
[00:45:53.310]a steak in Lincoln and really Nebraska.
[00:45:56.130]I think it's my favorite place to go.
[00:45:57.850]Everyone who comes to see me, the first place
[00:46:00.320]that we go for dinner is Round The Bend.
[00:46:02.260]And yeah, so I'll go to Round The Bend,
[00:46:05.700]drive back to law school, act like I'm gonna study,
[00:46:08.120]find a couch and fall asleep
[00:46:09.820]where I know my friends are gonna mess with.
[00:46:11.283]That is strategic.
[00:46:12.600]That is what you like to hear.
[00:46:14.820]That's a game plan.
[00:46:15.653]So, yeah, basically, I mean, as long as you have friends
[00:46:19.130]that will mess with you when you go to sleep,
[00:46:21.260]there's a student lounge downstairs
[00:46:22.610]where everybody's talking,
[00:46:24.010]that's where everybody eats lunch as well,
[00:46:26.510]you can always find a couch or a chair,
[00:46:28.810]and I mean, there are built-in breaks during the day
[00:46:31.420]and after your first year
[00:46:32.260]when you get to start choosing your classes,
[00:46:33.750]you can always take a little drive back to your apartment
[00:46:36.330]or wherever you're staying at and, you know,
[00:46:38.570]have a little hour just to relax.
[00:46:42.550]Also the law school has a beautiful courtyard that,
[00:46:47.450]it's like nice green space out
[00:46:48.950]and if you are persuasive enough on a really beautiful day
[00:46:52.920]when the spring is like really full out
[00:46:55.260]and everyone's tired of winter,
[00:46:56.830]you can convince some of the law professors
[00:46:59.570]to have class outside.
[00:47:00.880]We did that in my second year and I mean, it was wonderful.
[00:47:04.720]We just all sat in the grass
[00:47:06.280]and it was one of my like most fun memories
[00:47:09.340]of a law school class.
[00:47:10.330]I will never forget that.
[00:47:13.250]Very cool.
[00:47:14.083]Well, I think our time is up here.
[00:47:16.730]I've learned a lot.
[00:47:17.563]Hopefully, you have to if you're watching.
[00:47:20.960]That is all we have for today, so thanks for joining us.
[00:47:24.143]Yeah, that's good.
[00:47:25.830]We will be around if you have any questions.
[00:47:29.490]So, reach out to us in admissions
[00:47:31.580]or our students are always here to help to you.
[00:47:34.170]These are some of our student ambassadors.
[00:47:35.640]So, thank you and have a good day.
[00:47:37.890]Go big red.
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