Faculty Interview - David Cahan
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06/03/2019
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This is an interview with Prof. David Cahan
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- [00:00:05.110]So I'm David Cahan,
- [00:00:06.610]I'm Charles Bessey Professor of History
- [00:00:09.490]here at the University of Nebraska.
- [00:00:12.040]And I'm a historian of science principally.
- [00:00:16.000]Though also very much interested in European cultural
- [00:00:19.770]or intellectual history, especially in the modern era,
- [00:00:23.810]meaning from about the Enlightenment to the present.
- [00:00:27.870]And most of my published research has concentrated
- [00:00:32.277]on the German speaking world,
- [00:00:35.060]from the late Enlightenment until the Weimar period,
- [00:00:39.930]so about 1750 to about 1933,
- [00:00:45.730]and I've published a series of books
- [00:00:50.440]about 19th century science, especially in Germany.
- [00:00:54.870]My latest book is one that I've been working on
- [00:00:57.780]for a good portion of my career,
- [00:01:00.520]called "Helmholtz: A Life in Science",
- [00:01:03.440]published by the University of Chicago Press,
- [00:01:05.910]and it appeared about a month ago.
- [00:01:09.649]But that's kind of the culmination of work
- [00:01:12.530]that I had been doing virtually since graduate school,
- [00:01:16.290]where I worked on a book
- [00:01:17.690]about a German scientific institution,
- [00:01:20.850]where quantum physics began in the late 19th,
- [00:01:24.560]early 20th centuries.
- [00:01:26.380]And along the way,
- [00:01:29.120]I also wrote a book about physicist
- [00:01:31.440]named DeWitt Bristol Brace,
- [00:01:33.770]who was the first physicist here
- [00:01:35.920]at the University of Nebraska,
- [00:01:37.730]this was about 1887,
- [00:01:40.030]and he trained with Helmholtz in Berlin,
- [00:01:42.850]the man who I study so much.
- [00:01:44.840]So that's the bulk of my research, dealing with Germany,
- [00:01:52.510]the United States, the sciences,
- [00:01:55.360]the cultural history of science, and so on.
- [00:02:04.340]I think there's three key take-aways from this book.
- [00:02:08.430]The first is, that Helmholtz sought to unite all
- [00:02:13.410]of the different sciences,
- [00:02:14.990]including philosophy as much as possible.
- [00:02:18.050]He's recently been called the last great polymath.
- [00:02:22.590]That is, the last person who could really, conceivably,
- [00:02:26.770]understand all of the sciences, and then some,
- [00:02:30.050]and try to put it in some kind of unified field.
- [00:02:33.324]I'm not saying that he did it, but he sought to do that.
- [00:02:38.630]So that's one take-away.
- [00:02:40.180]Another is that he was very much concerned about
- [00:02:43.520]the sources of our knowledge.
- [00:02:44.930]How do we know things?
- [00:02:46.050]Ya know, today we talk about fake news,
- [00:02:48.410]but how do we know what's fake and what's real?
- [00:02:51.740]And he was very much concerned about
- [00:02:55.390]the methods that scientists used,
- [00:02:57.660]and the instruments that they used to produce
- [00:03:01.490]their truth claims about the world.
- [00:03:03.720]And it's of course as serious in science
- [00:03:06.396]as it is in politics.
- [00:03:08.720]And the third and final take-away from the book is that
- [00:03:12.353]Helmholtz's person and his ideas sought to unite
- [00:03:16.900]the sciences and the arts.
- [00:03:18.850]He wrote about the scientific foundations of painting,
- [00:03:23.380]of color, of music.
- [00:03:25.850]He was himself a serious piano player,
- [00:03:29.860]loved the theater, loved literature,
- [00:03:32.950]and he believed that the arts enrich
- [00:03:35.690]the sciences and vice versa.
- [00:03:38.040]So these are the three big take-aways from the book.
- [00:03:47.570]Well I think that biography has been treated
- [00:03:54.880]a little bit too roughly by a lot of people for a long time.
- [00:03:58.330]Meaning that until about the 1960s,
- [00:04:01.510]biography kind of had, had it's way,
- [00:04:04.290]and then as social history became important,
- [00:04:07.600]as talking about social forces, gender and women's history,
- [00:04:13.970]and global history, as they came in,
- [00:04:16.820]that kind of put a discount on biography.
- [00:04:20.070]And I'm quite sure that this has changed now
- [00:04:23.760]in the last decade,
- [00:04:25.120]especially in Britain and the United States,
- [00:04:27.440]where biography is much more highly valued
- [00:04:30.640]than it was previously.
- [00:04:32.600]And I would also remind people that while
- [00:04:35.900]there are all kinds of movements, social movements,
- [00:04:39.550]economic movements, and so on,
- [00:04:41.730]there must be agents who do the moving.
- [00:04:44.480]That is to say there must be people who do the moving.
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