So we'll see late,
you have a whole year gone by,
do I just start on? Thank you.
I was just this June 24th, 2010.
This is the oral history project sponsored by the UNL and maritime association
today. We're interviewing Agnus Adams. Who's professor ameritized libraries.
I'm Tyce Miller,
professor emeritus of theater behind the camera is Jim Kendrick professor
emeritus of ID. And, uh, well,
it started to beginning Agnes, uh, your, your childhood and background.
Well, I'm from central Illinois, a small town in,
in Illinois. Um, I have, uh,
two, uh, two sisters and a brother. Uh,
I come from a family, uh, who I was the first,
uh, first child in my family,
including cousins who went on to school, uh,
beyond high school. It was, uh,
quite an occasion, but I had a very good, uh,
high school, uh, background, uh,
nice small town, but,
but very good and always thought I was going to go on to
school and always going to be a librarian.
I started working in the library when I was probably 14 or
15 years old. I worked in the public library and then I worked in the,
my high school library and always
knew that's what I wanted to do. I loved getting people in books together.
Um,
eventually it became getting people and information together a
little bit different than what I had thought I was going to spend my life doing,
but that's, uh, that's where I, I came from,
went off from my little small town in central Illinois to the university of
Illinois and went to school there
in the early mid sixties. And, uh,
then proceeded to, uh, to take a bit of a break. I don't know,
we all do, uh, life interfered, uh, uh,
husband, uh, the sixties, uh,
travel.
And a few years later I
was living in Missouri and I went to graduate school at the university of
Missouri and, uh,
did a master's in library science there.
Can we ship out the Illinois library? It's really one of the great big tent.
And there was a cornfield,
as I remember that was protected when the library didn't need to be expanded,
we around.
Them. No, that was, uh, after I left. But, uh,
yes, that was, um, uh, what was it called?
The mirror, Merle plot Merrill plot. Um,
and, uh, that was, that was very important,
but eventually the library did,
did persevere and get that error or undergraduate training.
Yes. Yes. And I was a history major Latin American studies was my,
was my bachelor's degree, but while I was at Illinois,
since we're back there,
I did work in the physical education and the Slavic
languages, libraries, uh, Illinois. No,
those of you who've been there. Um, Tice, I know you are,
there are lots of smaller. Oh.
And I worked labor and industrial relations and that was a real, uh,
fiery library. We had a,
we had a firebrand of a communist that was the head librarian there.
So those were interesting days,
but I got a very good undergraduate background in and
reinforced that. Yes, that's what I wanted to do.
But it also broadened to see that there were lots of needs and lots of,
lots of different folks to work with. Oh, yes,
yes. That was, uh, I wasn't much of a football fan, but, uh,
that was, uh, a joy to go. And you at least stayed through halftime.
I don't think that the align I work at Correll all team
back then. I haven't kept up, but, uh, yes,
those were good days. Uh, if Champaign-Urbana was,
uh, was such a different place coming from my small town.
And, um, I just loved it.
I think it it's seated
a love of living in an academic community.
And, uh, since those, since then, uh,
I've lived in a couple major ag DEMEC communities, uh, west Lafayette,
Purdue, and here, uh,
Lincoln in the university of Nebraska.
I was a couple of smaller places in Kentucky and Missouri,
but, uh, there's just something special about it.
University community that the ideas and the folks that are there.
Well, I lived in both to begin with.
I lived on campus and then actually Allen
hall, they were the newest shiniest dorms at the time.
My, of seemed to me miles from any,
any library that I am be working and miles from
the student union,
but still managed to spend many an hour in the student union and the
library. But, um, and then, uh,
right before I left Champaign-Urbana I did live in, uh,
sort of a co-op in Urbana, but, uh,
it, uh, there was a little bit different feeling, but I enjoyed champagne a lot.
Did you go on to graduate school and we didn't, we have to rush. No, no. Uh, I,
uh, I met the person I was going to marry down there.
He was a undergraduate geology undergraduate,
and, uh, he proceeded to, uh,
to go on to school and wanted to work right away.
And so we did some traveling, um,
both traveling and stores and then for his, uh,
for his job and, uh, minerals exploration.
So we lived a number of places all in the states.
And because I was, uh, as I said, a Latin American history major,
I took the time after my undergraduate degree to
do a lot of traveling in Mexico and central America and
spent
a couple months down there two or three times a year for a
couple of years and, uh,
got a little stronger in my Spanish and, uh,
finding out some of the things that were going on. So,
and then I was ready to come back, push you into graduate school. Yes.
Well, what pushed me in to graduate school? I was ready. I'd been out of,
out of classes for awhile,
was living in Southern Southeast, Missouri
and the university of Missouri.
This was back a ways,
but the areas of library science that were really growing and
starting to use this thing that we call digital information and
computers and all those kinds of things,
the areas of agriculture and areas of medicine.
These have lots of federal funding and the university of
Missouri had large funding in both of
those areas.
And I was offered a graduate,
a stipend to come to the university of Missouri and work in their
library. And, uh, this was, uh,
a real important time for me.
A couple of the people in the medical program were very
influential. Uh, Virginia McNamara was, uh,
this is Mac as, as we called her, had,
had been, uh, a librarian in, uh,
several big research libraries, a medical librarian,
and she was putting together the program of Missouri.
And it was, was quite an honor to work with her.
And, uh, the background I got there in,
in terms of the, uh, computers,
the cataloguing the classification
doing research online,
and I'm using all these terms that we come to be so comfortable with.
They weren't quite that simple then, but we were, uh,
we did, we did have things in the, in the computers that we could,
we could do searching and flying things all over the world or all over
the country. So I spent almost two years there.
I finished my degree. It was just a little over a one-year program.
And at that time, uh, uh,
a master's was the terminal degree in library science.
And most of our new librarians here at UNL still have a master's
terminal degree,
but more are going on and getting a PhD in a subject
specialist. I never got around to that. I think, uh,
that would have been a good step,
but I don't know what I would have done it in.
There's so many interesting things that I might talk about later. And,
uh, but I, I stayed at Missouri, like I said,
almost two years and, uh, worked in, uh,
in a small physics research lab, uh, helping,
uh, do some, uh,
some cataloging and classification so that material could be,
could be retrieved. Uh, and, uh,
then I decided it was time to start settling down.
And I went to Western Kentucky university.
Early days of computerizing and putting stuff online.
You were involved in doing that, putting stuff online. Okay. But ear was that.
Oh, that was probably
in, uh, mid seventies,
mid seventies. Okay. And, uh, as I said,
with the federal,
the federal funding in S and not in all the sciences,
but in,
in medicine and agriculture and those
folks on east camp on,
in the agriculture program here probably mean,
you remember some of those of those areas that they could do could do.
And, uh, much earlier than, uh,
the people in the humanities and associates and your church,
your computers like a doctor water, or was it, well,
I w wasn't one of those bleeding edge persons, but I,
yes,
I was probably a little disparaging and thought of them
as a tool. And I think they still are. They're not, I think,
I think a lot of us have gone over the hill and thinking it's much more than
just a tool, but yes, I wanted to see what all we could do.
And, uh, when you can see how much information,
how much more information one could get,
then sitting down with a paper product
and going spending hours and days and weeks
there was, there was no question that that was the way that was the way to go.
And it was, it was exciting to be involved at that time.
So you went to Kentucky? Yes. Well,
I loved that little school, Western Kentucky,
Western Kentucky in bowling green. And it's very, pretty,
very, very pretty. And, uh, it was, uh,
a comfortable two years, but I wasn't quite doing the,
what I went for. They were using some of my skills,
my language skills and my science skills and the
cataloging and classification. But, uh,
wasn't in quite the same ways that I had been, uh,
before and areas that I thought we could be going
into,
and they didn't really have any basic support of that kind of work
beyond basic catalog. So I started looking
elsewhere and applied to Purdue university and the
university of Nebraska,
the only two schools I applied to and, uh,
both offered me jobs, using my languages,
using my science background. And, um,
I think it was kind of a difficult, well, yes,
it was a bit of a difficult decision. Um,
I was familiar with Purdue a couple of the years before I had gone on to
do graduate school. I had lived in Purdue. My, um,
my husband had gotten his PhD at Purdue, so I was familiar with Purdue,
but, um, I just came out to
and saw some of the things that they needed to do and wanted to
do and decided this is, this is where I want it to be.
So in the late seventies, I came to Lincoln, Nebraska,
the online computer work in the library and you'd have a lock up.
Yes, yes. We really didn't have much going at that time.
And they still had lots of materials,
lots of paper products that had that they didn't have any
access to at all, uh,
not even paper indexes.
So I came to work on the Slavic and Germanic
sciences collection and started getting those materials
cataloged and getting that
information online, rudimentary,
but it was available and people could have access to,
to those materials.
But I was here for five months
and, uh, the Dean of the libraries, Jerry Rudolph,
he said, oh, I know what you're doing. This is great.
But I wonder if you would like to be a science librarian instead, would,
you could still use your languages. You could still use your science,
but I've had a whole year in my staff for quite a
while. And, uh,
I think you're the person to fill it.
And so I talked to some colleagues of, one of them,
still a colleague,
Judy Johnson in the libraries and a few other folks.
And, uh, I said, we'll give it a try. Go ahead. You know?
And, uh,
so five months after I got here and working in one area,
I moved into the other area and became the, uh,
librarian for the geologists,
computer scientists and physicists. And, uh,
at that time,
all of the science libraries were what we call branch libraries.
And they were spread all over both city and east
campus. And so I was, uh,
given the responsibility for those collections,
working with the faculty and, uh,
teaching them how,
at that time we were just starting to do the online searching
and starting to work with the faculty and students
in retrieving information yeah. In a different, different way.
And these were wonderful areas to be in because they were already,
they were more than ready.
Probably the chemists were the only group on campus that were
more ready, Randy. You're sorry,
but that didn't sound very good.
We were ready to do the online, uh, retrieval.
Yeah. Uh,
so I did that for a while and very
quickly, Jerry Rudolph liked what I did.
And we started adding libraries to my
portfolio and I became the nurse.
And these all add an aunt didn't, you know,
none of them felt away for quite a while.
And so I started working with the nurses and of course this was an easy
addition because I spent almost two years at the med library
and Missouri, and a lot of the work was being done over in,
uh, in Omaha.
But we did have a lot of students here who wanted to get ready to do
that.
So I am pre-med and in pre a lot of the other
pre science, uh.
I was a librarian. Omaha, was it here? Was there a,
did you have to take care of the librarian? Omaha?
They know they have a medical library with full staff open there.
And I worked with the, uh, with the students here.
We had a small collection that was the time in one of the
dorms on campus. That one of those that was converted to, you know,
the first floor became a library or part of one
room became the library, but it was mostly doing research,
retrieving information,
finding citations and getting that material here.
So it was early days of not having to be with a
physical collection. So all this,
this continued to change these I'm at that time,
working with people who, who don't care, where their information is,
they just want to, to find it. And if they can get it online, fine,
if they can't they'll order a dinner library loan or something
like that. But that's, that's where we were at that time.
Well, let's see. I.
Can I ask you a question about that issue of us?
So th the system is shifting over now so that, uh,
the libraries are online and students are starting to use research
online. This was.
The early, early, early days.
And, uh.
I'm trying to think of the liers was our early
library information retrievals system.
And that's just a precursor to what we have now,
but that was at the time that was our system.
Right. But the accusation is made now, students don't even go near the library,
they just go online and whatever's online. That's what they do research.
And that's very true. Okay. But this was the beginning
And it's also for faculty, right? So you were taken over,
you were rapidly taking over.
Many of the.
Sites and nothing was dropping off. You just keep an eye on.
Better math and nursing at about the same time.
Or where are you headquartered in lover?
I was in the geology library and that was before they
had renovated moral hall.
And so I actually was in the museum on the third floor of the museum
and spent kind of pony express,
spent most of my time,
going around campus visiting with,
with faculty in their office as, uh,
scheduling different promotions for students
and inviting them either to come to the library or to come to a room in the
geology department, that kind of thing. But, uh,
I was in, in the GA, in the museum for.
Uh, did you have lots of training sessions at the time,
particularly with faculty, staff and students to teach them the system.
Quite a few, I would have a mic. I would call what I,
what I would call a major one weekly that, uh,
because we had, at that time,
we had to schedule a time that we were going online to do the re the
searches, et cetera.
And we didn't have access to all of the databases that are
available now. So we'd have to say, you know,
I want to be able to search the social sciences index,
or I want to be able to serve, uh,
to search the bibliography and index to geology.
And I want to do such and such, you know, we would have, at that time,
there, wasn't the sense of free text. We would have,
have to sit down and work with our faculty member or
the students and, and decide, uh,
what search terms are we going to use and how are we going to put these
search terms together? Are we going to, and them, and get the world,
or are we going to, or them, and, and really, you know,
dig in and, and get real concise information.
So that was a busy time. That was a busy time. And, um,
oh, I can't quite tell you when all, when this happened,
but then I was asked to take responsibility
for engineering and engineering was quite a large
library, and this is an adamant,
this is an add on I, at that time.
I think they dropped nursing.
And we did have a new young woman on staff who,
who had gone to a similar program and she was able to take the
nursing quite easily.
And so I was responsible for engineering for probably two
years, but I had professional librarian over there.
I was just one, one layer above.
So this was a, this was a busy time, and this
was a good decision for me to come here, professionally. Uh,
things kept changing all the time.
And I was with my deans,
both Jerry Rudolph and Cantor Hendrickson.
And there were a couple on campus interims,
but they were always very supportive in sending me to national
conferences or workshops and the like, so,
uh, we were,
we were very on, we were on T we,
the libraries was very on top of the things that were going on and
frequently I would,
would come to understand that while some other
places were talking about where we should be going,
we were just doing it.
We were just down in the trenches doing this,
uh, this work with,
with texts and putting things online.
And then we started scanning materials and,
and digitizing, which was a big thing.
And I wasn't as involved with, but we went into the social sciences.
This was one of the last,
last areas that history and political science that,
that started to getting, getting information available.
But this was just a busy, busy time,
and probably why I never went on and got a PhD
because I was busy. I,
I really think I loved every minute of it and was, I was very, very busy. Uh,
we were, um,
we never were overstaffed at the library.
You're suggesting that we were staying up with, you know,
we weren't falling too far behind what other people were doing as far as putting
all the, all of your technology.
Exactly. I, I think, um,
it's one of those, there are lots of little P there. Well,
they're not little pockets,
but pockets on at the university of Nebraska
adapt where we really have strengths and people are
just working hard, getting things done.
And the library's really what, uh, really was doing that.
They just were hunkering down and
getting on the national level in the libraries,
we were getting a great deal of, of, uh, publicity.
And we're probably coming now up into that,
went through the eighties and,
and Ken Hendrickson did an awful lot.
Cat came from the book world, uh,
worked for major book sellers,
but so he knew how to use computers. And he,
he pushed us and helped us. And he didn't drag me, but he,
he was very supportive to me and other staff members took
us to, uh,
to meet people and to schools where they were starting to do things.
And he just always said, yes, I think we can do that.
And then he moved up,
moved up here at the university and became vice chancellor for
computing resources or some such title and junky sick.
He came in and Dean geese, and she has been,
and was very important to me.
She continued supporting all the kinds of things that
needed to be done. Um, and we were buying,
we were buying databases
before most other schools were, uh, subscribing to databases,
for instance, um,
well bibliography and index to geology, chem abstracts, uh,
physics abstracts purchase. Yes, we,
we would, would purchase them, uh,
back files as much as we could.
And we would offer these searching free to,
to our students. And
about this time, because we were doing this,
this was a whole different world. Now everything's out there.
I became very interested in intellectual property and copyright.
And that took up probably the last
five, 10 years. Well,
over five years of my time at
UNL,
I started working with the faculty because they were using,
they were finding things on the internet and you seen these
databases almost interchangeably,
and one can't always do that.
So we had to start teaching faculty of
about citations and who owned materials and what they could use
and what, and how they could use it, et cetera. And, you know,
one of my things was just because she can do it doesn't mean it's right.
Uh, you know, I'm afraid too many people on this campus heard, heard that,
but, uh, that was a very,
very interesting to me in that I've done just a little bit of work since I
retired in that area.
And now we're getting more and more people aware
of, of ownership rights, uh,
both as both as creators and users. But I, um,
I taught a lot of, a lot of courses on intellectual,
on copyright and intellectual property, a little bit on patents, but,
uh, the folks who were working with patents,
we got involved with central administration and that was,
I was more, you know, they were comfortable with that. And, uh,
it was beyond the usage. It was the creation, but it was,
it was a very exciting time for me. So it was with that,
that I tapered down my career here and did a little work
afterwards to retired.
I retired in 2005. Okay.
And, um,
I was thinking about the change,
particularly on intellectual properties and citations that,
uh, along with all that good stuff came the bad stuff.
And that is in teaching. We never knew whether the paper came off the internet,
whatever you, whether hunks of it did, uh, that was,
that's the downside of that. Wasn't there.
What has happened since then to improve that?
Well, I think, and I don't know this, but I know that there,
with this awareness that I hoped, I, you know,
instilled in faculty and students,
there became more awareness of
plagiarism and there are no
software packages now where faculty can run,
can run up a paper through and see and see how
consistent it is with other papers Chan. And I don't know how to do this.
So I just worked with faculty who started purchasing things like
that after we talked about intellectual property and all these wide,
but I think they're probably a, probably a few awarenesses as helped.
And so I don't know how it's being dealt with, but I won't surprise.
You mentioned you went to obviously going to meetings, uh, getting outside.
What meetings, what, what were you getting from particularly meetings,
particularly this really change. We were changing into technology,
like kind of making some money if you get from them.
One of the university of Nebraska Lincoln currently
is a member of the association for research libraries.
And it's the big national
counterpart of CIC,
which is the corporation of institutional
cooperation or something. And their libraries are in there.
So except for the big 10 libraries,
we were via association for research libraries had the major,
major libraries and beyond talking,
there were groups and tasks,
task forces put together that
would, would the provided a lot of the leadership for libraries
and funding to do, to do some of the work.
It wasn't possible to do,
to fund these kinds of projects at one school.
That's why medicine and agriculture were so successful early on
because they had so much federal funding.
And through the association of research libraries and a couple other
regional groups,
we were able to offer a leadership and show the
schools and precedents why they needed to cooperate and move ahead.
It's the CIC type,
something that recently we're going to be part of it because we're part of the
big 10, this includes the big 10 plus university of Chicago.
So that's an enormous resource in itself.
Yes.
I know the university of the Dean has already been invited to a couple
meetings and we'll be talking about how our collections and,
you know, our resources will be integrated.
And obviously, you know, what kind of access we'll have from,
from some of those schools, they're all, you know, uh,
inter library, loan agreements, uh, you know,
who gets first dibs on materials,
those go regionally and nationally. And, uh,
so there'll be a lot of access us
that I think is beyond what we've had, uh,
in the recent past. It looks exciting.
Um, while most of your, your,
your career has been like you have,
you've been involved in teaching somebody particularly towards the here.
Um,
did you do the occasional class and how to use the library for the scientist or
along the way? Or did you get.
Yes, I did. Yes. I did a few of those. Um, and, uh,
they were fun. They were fun, but, um,
I think the,
the students and faculty that I worked with got beyond
that, and, and we're, we're doing,
doing the specific research more than,
than using the paper products.
So that's what got me off the hook. So.
So how,
so you've been here since the early eighties and how's the university changed?
We're all searching.
Well, one of the things I want to mention just just briefly,
I was very involved with the, uh,
faculty and academic Senate would change names
someplace along the way, and was involved,
uh,
chaired the academic planning committee one year during a budget
cuts.
And I think the participation and the
sharing by administrators with
faculty of the decision making has improved
since I've been here, not wondrously. So,
but over the years,
it just seems that there more cooperation than top down decisions.
I can remember early days,
maybe the first vice chancellor that I worked with was,
was very interested in finding out what the faculty thought,
but not beyond that. I mean,
just wanted to know what was going on on campus.
And the year I was on the, uh,
chaired academic planning committee, it would be vice chancellor,
invited me to join the chancellor's cabinet.
And there was a lot, and we brought a lot of,
he brought a lot of faculty in to talk to the cabinet
and be more involved in decision making.
And I think that's, I think that's very positive.
Another area that's changed
in a very similar way is the benefits. That was an area.
They also, because the faculty Senate worked,
worked on. And I think that there's been more,
um,
some benefit changes that were stimulated by
faculty and staff, um, the, uh,
the tuition for dependence. And now we're,
we're still looking at the issues of insurance for, uh,
for all dependents and, and, uh, significant others,
but, but ideas and issues have come from the faculty.
So those have been very positive changes.
Certainly there seems to be more women on campus now than they were when you
came, I there hasn't been a vaping or have you, uh,
do you have a different opinion about that?
No, I do have, um, I think there are a lot more women.
One of the things that I regret not having been able to relate is I don't,
I did not have a lot of faculty, uh,
see male mentors on campus.
I don't think most of us did pretty isolated youth at the time you
thought of one or two people in geology, one and two people in math.
When I was with physics, I don't think we had any women. And, uh,
so everybody was kind of out there on their own doing it alone. And, um,
I think that's changed a lot. I see lots of young women when I,
when I go to campus or go to go to meetings or receptions for
one thing or another. So I think that's been very positive.
Was there any different when you were at, uh, Kentucky, Missouri, and Illinois,
this is pretty much a male dominated. It was library, Illinois,
mainly men or women, or do you remember.
The, it was a mix. It was a mix.
It was a mix. Uh, but, uh,
Missouri was accepted this one person in the, uh,
the medical program, both the library,
science faculty and the,
like the librarians and the various departments and
divisions across campus all made sure.
Well, there's a,
the branch library situation here that seems to have changed a bit too didn't.
Stuff. What happened money? Um,
I know at one time when we were looking at, uh, and it was,
it was finances,
replication of resources before we had all
of the, uh, online services and staff.
And, uh,
we had a professional librarian in the BR biology,
chemistry libraries, a professional librarian doing,
you know, I mentioned all the ones that I added, but as the years went,
we had people in between, in between me and the,
and the day-to-day staff and probably, um,
and that's just, and frequently with the, uh,
departments,
the academic departments needed space and not
all of the, of the eliminations were amicable,
but, um, they,
they serve both the library and the departments.
And I think we have music and architecture,
and I think those are that's about it.
Okay. Um,
looking back over your time here, what,
what you take the greatest satisfaction of your career or being in the fall?
What would you say would be maybe the high point?
I'm not,
I want all these things to the last, I think we're the,
the copyright and the intellectual property was an area that
I was really heading, enjoying,
uh, getting a great deal of, of satisfaction. Um,
and in some ways I was doing a lot more teaching and maybe that was why I
liked that. And that's one area,
I guess it's because it was active when I retired that I have done
work since I, since I retired.
So regarding retirement, what else are you going to do?
You've been retired now for five years, so.
Well, after taking a year,
just kind of off reading in the, like,
I've been doing some volunteer work. Uh,
I volunteer with a, um, what do we call it?
The Lincoln literacy council.
And I've had a number of, uh, foreign language,
uh, Vietnamese and a Russian students that I'm teaching
English, um, and,
and just American life skills. And that's been very rewarding.
I've really enjoyed that. And I'm also involved in the,
in the, uh, group called, uh,
friendship force that does some traveling
to other countries. We're time, you know,
building world peace, one person at a time.
And I've been very involved the last three years in hosting,
uh, folks from, um,
the former Soviet republics Tajikistan
and, uh, the Ukraine white,
those areas that are coming here for leadership training in the United States
and getting ready in October to host and other groups that will be here. So,
And I've been a docent past year at the Sheldon museum of
art and it's, that's just, that's another whole world.
I'm so glad it was opened up.
To us.
In many ways.
It's back to the very beginning when I decided I wanted to
be alive Prairie. And because I enjoyed getting people and materials together,
back at the public library,
working with young people and seeing their excitement at
being presented with things that they had no idea whether it's books
or art or statues. And just, just enjoying that,
just enjoying that has been,
has been the high point of working at Sheldon.
So, uh, but advice, uh,
somebody's 22 or something, I'd say somebody 18,
19 as you were back in Illinois coming from a small town
Nebraska. And they said, why should I, why should it be a liar? Or should I be,
is there a future of being a librarian? How would you respond to.
I would say, yes, there's a future in being a librarian.
And there's just going to be more and more open up in terms of this
information and how we access that and the multiple
layers of,
of information that's out there. And I,
at this stage of my life,
I can't even imagine all the alternatives and there will
be in this, in this area, I would say, go for it.
Yes, probably so, and I would, would hope that one would have, uh,
a PhD maybe in the technology,
maybe in the computer science, um, well, or in the discipline,
because it's,
it's manipulating this information and the more
you know about it or how to manipulate it, the stronger it will be
that there are opportunities out there.
Do you have any concluding remarks about anything to do with university,
your career Lincoln, any travel,
anything else that you'd like to end today's.
No. Well, I just say,
I think back when I came out here for my
interview for bowling green Kentucky,
I was sitting on airplane and got to chatting with
seven was my seatmate. And I said, well, you know,
you got a big decision to make.
I was offered a position at Purdue university and the university of Nebraska,
and this fellow said he liked basketball.
And then I didn't know what that meant.
And I came here and, uh,
and I never regret coming to Nebraska football games. Yes.
I have seen a few football games
enjoying it very much. Terrific.
Well, today we've been interviewing Agnes adage,
professor emeritus of libraries. This is the oral history project.
You would know America associates bought a lot of the things.
She talked about technology and that new.